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    ideas for attaching a sign to a metal railing

    Hi collective.

    Our village (Bunny, Notts) paint wooden bunnies for various events/celebrations and attach them to the railings at the village hall.
    The last round of bunnies attracted thieves who took 4 of them.
    So I'm looking for ways to securely attach them.

    The bunnies are done on a flat piece of wood and we screw a post down the back with holes drilled in it so we can pass cable ties through the holes and around the railings.
    But these are obviously just being broken off with a good pull.

    I thought of screwing jubilee clips on the back instead but has anyone got other ideas?

    Thanks
    IanB

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    My first reaction is: 230 Volt, but it gives a mess & paperwork the next morning...

    'One way' screws? Like one used to secure locks in a wood doorpost? You need to grind them off when you want to remove the bunnies. More hassle (and noisier) than clipping a tie wrap.

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    Metal is your friend for sure: jubilee, u-bolts or even heavy gauge wire will deter most attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchlovr View Post
    i didn't know such things existed so thanks very much for the idea which I will investigate

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    Steel cable ties (eg Amazon)?

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    U bolts, fitted with 2 nuts locked together tightly. This won’t stop the most determined thieves, if the come armed with a couple if spanners they’ll get them off, but it makes it harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    U bolts, fitted with 2 nuts locked together tightly. This won’t stop the most determined thieves, if the come armed with a couple if spanners they’ll get them off, but it makes it harder.
    And a quick 'tack' with the welder to secure them. You'll need a grinder to get them off (IF you want to get them off again, of course). Or some RED Loctite on the thread before you put on the nut. You'll get them off, but you need a long, long spanner.

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    use SHEAR bolts (or SHEAR nuts).

    you can get them from screwfix or lots of places, in all sorts of different sizes.

    when you do them up tight, the hex part shears off leaving a smooth round head, which will have to be ground off...... which is not easy, so make sure you don't need to remove it in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Steel cable ties (eg Amazon)?

    Plus one

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    Some great ideas for you all.
    I’ve ordered some steel cable ties and u bolts. I have a couple of bunnies to fit so I’ll test both.
    I’ve never heard of half the things you recommended so well worth asking the question.

    Thank you all for your help.

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    I only recently found out about steel cable ties when a sparky left some at work.
    Used one to fix a workers exhaust back to her car so she could get home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    Steel cable ties (eg Amazon)?
    In case anyone else was wondering how best to tighten them, see these two YouTube videos:




    Or else buy the special tool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    In case anyone else was wondering how best to tighten them, see these two YouTube videos:




    Or else buy the special tool...
    very interesting... Thanks for the info, i didn't realise you could tighten them with longnose pliers, (or a small screwdriver to push the ballbearing into locking position!)....

    rather than the £35 tool for tightening them.

    knowing that i will now buy some !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChronoPantera View Post
    very interesting... Thanks for the info, i didn't realise you could tighten them with longnose pliers, (or a small screwdriver to push the ballbearing into locking position!)....

    rather than the £35 tool for tightening them.

    knowing that i will now buy some !!
    This eBay seller has a tool for £17.38: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134483942908.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    This eBay seller has a tool for £17.38: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134483942908.
    thanks,

    That's a better price than i found them on Amazon, but i've already got 3 sets of long nose pliers, (including a curved set like in the first youtube video you posted), so I don't really need to buy a special tool anyway. (Even though £17 is far more reasonable than £35 !!)

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