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    Holocaust Memorial Day

    Today is #HolocaustMemorialDay



    I have placed a candle in my
    window, which will light this evening to #LightTheDarkness. remember all those murdered for who they were and stand against prejudice and hatred around the world today.
    Learn more about this on
    the @HMD_UK website:
    www.hmd.org.uk/hmd2023

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    Thanks for pointing that out.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Thank you. A candle will be lit tonight.

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    I have quite a few Jewish friends and they are mainly in my age bracket of being in their seventies. Most of them lost their Grandparents to the holocaust and the horror of it stays with them even today. They still cannot understand how a nation started smashing shop windows, making the owners wear marked clothing and culminated in the building of production line slaughter factories. It was done with cold clinical precision and no one in Germany could be bothered to stop it.

    Unfortunately the horror does not stop there, the younger generation live with the fear that it might happen all over again. It must be awful having a threat like that hanging over you and knowing the threat might be there for years to come.

    Anything that helps to bring this back into the limelight and hopefully reduce the chances of it happening again should be applauded.

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    Thank you for the reminder.

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    I follow the Auschwitz Memorial account on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/AuschwitzMuseum

    Their tweets are often heartbreaking, but the least we can do is to remember the victims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    I follow the Auschwitz Memorial account on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/AuschwitzMuseum

    Their tweets are often heartbreaking, but the least we can do is to remember the victims.
    Same here, can only recommend, it keeps reminding me about the value of transparency and democracy.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    We'll be lighting a candle.

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    A memorial of terrible crimes that should never be forgotten, especially in these times.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    I follow the Auschwitz Memorial account on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/AuschwitzMuseum

    Their tweets are often heartbreaking, but the least we can do is to remember the victims.

    I too follow that account. So many innocent people murdered, seeing their photographs brings the horror home to you.
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    Thank you for the reminder, I too will light a candle this evening. Having read scores of books on the Holocaust over the years, I still cannot get my head around the sheer brutality & inhumanity inflicted on the Jewish people.
    Not forgetting the other 'undesirables' extolled by the nazis either, gypsies, homosexuals, disabled & political activists, the list goes on.
    And we must remember of course that this is 'recent history' less than 100 years ago.

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    Today was my dad's birthday and as an avid, amateur military historian he taught me about WW2 and the evils of Nazi Germany from an early age. He remembers his parents returning from seeing news reels at the cinema about the discovery of the camps. His mother was crying and his father, who had survived active service in WW1, was furiously outraged. He refused to have anything German made in the house.

    I can recommend watching a poignant film on the BBC, from the Storyville series. "Three Minutes: A Lengthening" details what happened to the 3,000 Jews in Nasielsk, a Polish village based on the recovered home film, three minutes long, of an American emigre who returned for a visit, a year before WW2 broke out.

    It brings the past to life, a lost world is visible and is a remembrance for those people murdered.
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    ICYMI...I watched this the other night: BBC How the Holocaust Began.

    Today I saw this Guardian Article.

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    Many thanks for starting this thread OP.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0dm3gdg



    I thought these Ken Burns documentaries recently shown on the BBC were good.


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    Re Theresienstadt (mentioned in the Twitter excerpt above):

    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    Watch just the three or four minutes of intro until the opening credits for the vivid, full-colour gut-punch of recognition as to the modern society that peopled Theresienstadt. Simon Schama at the Pinkas Synagogue is tremendously moving.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...he-vital-spark
    If you only have a couple of moments to consider the holocaust today, Schama’s approach in that link is very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0dm3gdg
    I thought these Ken Burns documentaries recently shown on the BBC were good.
    Thanks, I’ll check those out.
    Last edited by JGJG; 27th January 2023 at 20:25.

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    This Storyville programme also aired on BBC this week and was an interesting and novel approach to part of the history, I thought:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-a-lengthening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    I have quite a few Jewish friends and they are mainly in my age bracket of being in their seventies. Most of them lost their Grandparents to the holocaust and the horror of it stays with them even today. They still cannot understand how a nation started smashing shop windows, making the owners wear marked clothing and culminated in the building of production line slaughter factories. It was done with cold clinical precision and no one in Germany could be bothered to stop it.

    Unfortunately the horror does not stop there, the younger generation live with the fear that it might happen all over again.
    My grandparents fortunately survived, but a number of my more distant relatives were not so fortunate. My late-80's aunt tells of cousins of hers, teenage girls at the time, who got out of Germany but found their social life too dull and chose to return. They didn't survive.

    You just need to listen to (massively influential) people like Kanye West to know that the threat never goes away. I can recommend David Baddiel's Jews Don't Count (both the book and the documentary) for an interesting view on anti-Semitism in UK today.

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    90 years today, Hitler became chancellor of Germany. Within two months, he dismantled parliament and began his political cleansing campaign, arresting and killing political opponents (mostly communists and social democrats).

    Beware of the beginnings!
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    90 years today, Hitler became chancellor of Germany. Within two months, he dismantled parliament and began his political cleansing campaign, arresting and killing political opponents (mostly communists and social democrats).

    Beware of the beginnings!
    Many fail to learn from history.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Many fail to learn from history.
    Let's hope they have learned this time.
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 31st January 2023 at 08:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Let's hope they have learned this time.
    "they" who?
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    "they" who?
    Obviously the ones you think might fail to learn.

    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Many fail to learn from history.
    If you just want to start an argument perhaps the bear pit would be more suitable than a Holocaust memorial thread.
    Last edited by oldoakknives; 31st January 2023 at 09:57.

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    Thank you for this thread. I didn't notice it had been posted at the time. A very important reminder of the depths humans can sink to if we let evil go unchecked.

    #neverforget

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Obviously the ones you think might fail to learn.



    If you just want to start an argument perhaps the bear pit would be more suitable than a Holocaust memorial thread.
    Not sure I'm starting an argument, enjoy the rest of the day.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    Not sure I'm starting an argument, enjoy the rest of the day.
    Fine. Have a nice day.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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