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    Goretex Jackets

    I don’t have a decent waterproof jacket, so looking to buy a Goretex jacket.

    Don’t want some boxy unflattering thing, and prefer a slimmer sleeker look. Probably looking more like street wear than a bearded hiker in the Cairngorms.

    Jacket will be used to ascend Kilimanjaro, or walks around the Surrey hills, one or the other.

    No restriction on price as I’m using a work well being allowance to purchase it (what is it with this well-being bollox, not that I sniff at free money), justifying it as fitness wear, and only pay my marginal tax rate for the jacket. Hence the more I pay, the more I save!

    Any recommendations please.

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    I've got a very nice Brandit M65 jacket (I had 3 one after the other, the other 2 were sold here shortly after arriving as I couldn't get the sizing right!)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brandit-M-6...FLY?th=1&psc=1

    Great jacket for the money and I like the style (other colours if you think the olive is too much of a military look), but if someone else is footing the bill you may want to spend more - I was paying for mine, but it was still the nicest I found for double the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    I've got a very nice Brandit M65 jacket (I had 3 one after the other, the other 2 were sold here shortly after arriving as I couldn't get the sizing right!)

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brandit-M-6...FLY?th=1&psc=1

    Great jacket for the money and I like the style (other colours if you think the olive is too much of a military look), but if someone else is footing the bill you may want to spend more - I was paying for mine, but it was still the nicest I found for double the money.

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    OP stated Goretex.

    Had a few over the years - mostly down to fit/style TBH.

    My current fave is Patagonia, had Rab in the past - very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    OP stated Goretex.

    Had a few over the years - mostly down to fit/style TBH.

    My current fave is Patagonia, had Rab in the past - very good.
    I thought it was, but seemingly not.

    Looks very similar material, though to the Austrian Army 'Goretex' M65s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    I thought it was, but seemingly not.

    Looks very similar material, though to the Austrian Army 'Goretex' M65s.

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    Tested my £35 ex Austrian Army Goretex M65 the other week, worked perfectly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maris View Post
    Tested my £35 ex Austrian Army Goretex M65 the other week, worked perfectly!
    Likewise recently had some use out of my, 42 euros including postage, same origin M65, very pleased with it. Like the big pockets and overall quality feel even though it's had a former life/ used.

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    I like Gore products, have loads of cycling ones (both Gore and other brands using Goretex) but there are plenty of 2 layer and 2.5 layer fabrics out there that are up to the job. Marmot and Patagonia where where i went looking when buying my last everyday waterproof, ended up with a Marmot minimalist (goretex pac-lite) but a patagonia torrentshell would have done.
    you can pay a lot more for a jacket using gore-tex Pro but they are designed for people working a season in the mountains not walking a dog in Surrey, but this is a watch forum....
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    I like Montane or Rab stuff as it tends to be more “tailored” and you could do a lot worse than Craghoppers.

    https://www.craghoppers.com/mens/jac...e-tex-jackets/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    you can pay a lot more for a jacket using gore-tex Pro but they are designed for people working a season in the mountains not walking a dog in Surrey, but this is a watch forum....
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    Hard to beat Arc'teryx if money no object.

    https://arcteryx.com/gb/en/shop/jacket-finder/mens/

    Jack Wolfskin and Patagonia have good eco fabrics and credentials.

    Berghaus and the North Face are tried and trusted classics with plenty of choice.

    More hard core climber/snow gear would be Montane and Mountain Equipment.

    Personally, I think Arc'teryx will do it if you're looking to blow money. It's quality kit though.

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    Do like my Arc'teryx but as said not cheap and I don’t pay full price yet still think twice, Craghoppers used to do some that were fairly smart.
    I’d also look at some of the newer membranes such as those made by The North Face and Helly Hansen

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    I went with outdoor research for climbing kili, sized to fit layers underneath. Unless you’re doing anything technical, just go with whatever goretex or rainshell you fancy.

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    I have a great Nike ACG one. Misery Ridge is the style name. Really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Hard to beat Arc'teryx if money no object.

    https://arcteryx.com/gb/en/shop/jacket-finder/mens/

    Jack Wolfskin and Patagonia have good eco fabrics and credentials.

    Berghaus and the North Face are tried and trusted classics with plenty of choice.

    More hard core climber/snow gear would be Montane and Mountain Equipment.

    Personally, I think Arc'teryx will do it if you're looking to blow money. It's quality kit though.
    This advice ^^^^^^^^^ all day long. I worked in the outdoor garment industry for a while and these are the names I would suggest and I also own.

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    All my walking gear is Terrex and I have this jacket but in black. https://www.adidas.co.uk/terrex-tech...et/HA5517.html. Great all year round with base layers in winter. I’m not sure what the difference goretex pro vs standard goretex is though

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    Second the Arc'teryx Beta AR, especially if you're looking for quality and spendy.

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    I have a couple of si gore tex pieces - fashionable and functional as seen below

    https://www.pockets.co.uk/14727-aw22...d&siteid=74409

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    I have a Berghaus goretex jacket that I am very happy with. I think you quickly get into diminishing returns/paying for a name above that price point, unless you have very specialised needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watchstudent View Post
    I have a Berghaus goretex jacket that I am very happy with. I think you quickly get into diminishing returns/paying for a name above that price point, unless you have very specialised needs.
    I did try a Berghaus jacket on but the sleeve length was designed for gorillas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    I did try a Berghaus jacket on but the sleeve length was designed for gorillas.
    The jackets designed for climbing all have longer arms?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    The jackets designed for climbing all have longer arms?.
    What, people actually wear them for outdoor pursuits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    I have a couple of si gore tex pieces - fashionable and functional as seen below

    https://www.pockets.co.uk/14727-aw22...d&siteid=74409
    Fashion is clearly debatable lol.

    Look likes something worn in the desert on the first Star Wars!

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    Mountain Equipment for me. Have a couple of them including this one, great jacket.

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    Goretex Jackets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    Fashion is clearly debatable lol.

    Look likes something worn in the desert on the first Star Wars!
    I have something of a jacket fettish everything from sno peak, belstaff, Burberry, Canada Goose, stone island, tan, north face, moncler etc and a varirey of gore tex as part of that collection which was just one of the links I was sharing, I also have the same piece in red and black plus an older si stealth long as shown and a short version stealth plus the new Belstaff tech master which is brilliant - so if it rains I’ve plenty of choice to stay dry and have plenty of options what to choose

    Ill add if we all liked the same thing it would be pretty boring

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    Take a look at Kjus products

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    I have something of a jacket fettish everything from sno peak, belstaff, stone island, moncler and a varirey of gore tex as part of that which was just one I was sharing I also have the same piece in red and black plus an older si stealth long as shown and a short version stealth plus the new Belstaff tech master which is brilliant - so if it rains I’ll stay dry and hqave plenty of options what to choose

    Ill add if we all liked the same thing it would be pretty boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Drago View Post
    You’re a trendy old fella Rob !


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    I have something of a jacket fettish
    I do not have such a fetish.

    I own a Squeamish for a commute if it’s wet.

    I have a Rab gilet, and one with arms.

    I did purchase and briefly own for 2hrs a huge CG Parker, before realising that as someone who never feels the cold & doesn’t sell drugs on a cold street corner I’d always be carrying the bloody thing.

    I’d love a warm coat, but I’m usually the fool in a shirt or carrying their jumper in the middle of winter as it’s too hot. My wife loves a thick coat, she will be out in her parker quilted jacket for a walk with me and my hoodie zip is already undone mid winter & im too warm.

    The parker was meant as a commute coat. No way I’m earth I could have gone from platform to train to underground without heat exhaustion wearing it!

    Now cold hands and some thin gloves I can wear whilst working from home - any knowledge here would be great! I have some woollen fingerless that sort of do a job, but I look like an extra from Oliver. They are also too bulky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    I do not have such a fetish.

    I own a Squeamish for a commute if it’s wet.

    Now cold hands and some thin gloves I can wear whilst working from home - any knowledge here would be great! I have some woollen fingerless that sort of do a job, but I look like an extra from Oliver. They are also too bulky!
    Have you considered Silk gloves eg Decathlon, about £8 pair. Not silky at all, just like a pair of thin cotton gloves but toasty warm , here you go I found the link

    https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/adult-...ck/_/R-p-14734

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    I do not have such a fetish.

    I own a Squeamish for a commute if it’s wet.

    I have a Rab gilet, and one with arms.

    I did purchase and briefly own for 2hrs a huge CG Parker, before realising that as someone who never feels the cold & doesn’t sell drugs on a cold street corner I’d always be carrying the bloody thing.

    I’d love a warm coat, but I’m usually the fool in a shirt or carrying their jumper in the middle of winter as it’s too hot. My wife loves a thick coat, she will be out in her parker quilted jacket for a walk with me and my hoodie zip is already undone mid winter & im too warm.

    The parker was meant as a commute coat. No way I’m earth I could have gone from platform to train to underground without heat exhaustion wearing it!

    Now cold hands and some thin gloves I can wear whilst working from home - any knowledge here would be great! I have some woollen fingerless that sort of do a job, but I look like an extra from Oliver. They are also too bulky!
    Most of mine are fashion items but do the job as well, I’ll also share that just because I own a cg I’m not selling drugs either as you allude too

    I also fish and camp a lot and have a Rab, Snugpak and buffalo kit for warmth all of which is ace and made for the job and I pair that with some old skool army ponchos that you can get from most army surplus if you can find some and treat with Nikwax regularly that will do the same job as any gore tex piece

    As for gloves - Sealskinz are great or if you do suffer I’d highly recommend the zippo hand warmers a bit of a faff but last for ages and stowed away in a pocket you’ll be amazed how much difference they make


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    Jottnar and Arcteryx would fit the bill, PHD if you fancy going custom.


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    Arcteryx is completely overpriced.

    I only buy Rab gear and have done for a number of years, you can’t go wrong with Rab.


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    I have a mountain equipment goretex pro, it’s like some weird space age material that keeps you warm and dry without being over hot or sweaty, it’s also very thin and super lightweight. Does have a hiking jacket vibe, but slim fit and performs so well I don’t care.
    It was also really expensive so might just be what the op is looking for. Worth the dosh though it’s on another level !

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    Jacket will be used to ascend Kilimanjaro.
    I’d go trad for the Snows of Kilimanjaro, Ventile jacket or smock from Hilltrek.


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    I think brand enter fashion on an even smaller scale from city to city.

    Every kid in the late 80s had a Berghaus in Liverpool. Then came, Helly Hanson, North Sails, Henri Lloyd etc through the early 90s.

    In Liverpool technical gear has always been worn as fashion clothing by the youths.


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    I went into my shopping area today to try some stuff on. The is a Cotswold Outdoors and a huge Ultimate Outdoors, so I thought I would be sorted.

    Gortex stock was wiped out. Couldn’t even try on in my size S/M as no stock.

    Seems Goretex jackets are like semiconductors; not available.

    I did try on a Patagonia Torrentshell which I really liked, but the S was a little too tight and the arms of the M extended to my fingertips. Not Goretex though.

    Need to kick the pasty habit as you know your are carry a few too many pounds when you have to size up and deal with stupid arm lengths.

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    I’ve recently ordered Keela Stratus…which will be my first non Goretex waterproof jacket… dual protection tech looks interesting/innovative and also comes highly recommended.. great prices too..

    https://keelaoutdoors.com/product/stratus-sdp-shell/

    https://youtu.be/8RZXxRzBnEY


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    Don’t know if anyone has tried these with any success but I had an OMM “waterproof” jacket made from eVent which is a gore TRX alternative. Honestly the least waterproof jacket I’ve ever had. It was like an old school tent that if your skin touched it from the inside water came through. I tried tech washing and re proofing all to no avail. Went arc’teryx gore tex in the end.

    (And OMM for those that don’t know run ultra marathons where you carry your own kit so should be no slouch in terms of performance)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny73 View Post
    Don’t know if anyone has tried these with any success but I had an OMM “waterproof” jacket made from eVent which is a gore TRX alternative. Honestly the least waterproof jacket I’ve ever had. It was like an old school tent that if your skin touched it from the inside water came through. I tried tech washing and re proofing all to no avail. Went arc’teryx gore tex in the end.

    (And OMM for those that don’t know run ultra marathons where you carry your own kit so should be no slouch in terms of performance)
    I always thought OMM were top quality. Plus Event has been around for nearly 20 yrs , so no excuse for that performance:(

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    Quote Originally Posted by higham5 View Post
    I always thought OMM were top quality. Plus Event has been around for nearly 20 yrs , so no excuse for that performance:(
    My wife has the same jacket with exactly the same issues. Genuinely surprised. The stretchy fabric is great as a windproof running jacket though, very quiet also

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    Interesting that all Gore fabrics will be going through a change over the next few years, to become more environmentally friendly.

    Cycling based link, but explains the changes for all.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pfc...roof-garments/

    FWIW. The North Face haven't used Goretex for a few years and now use their own Futurelight material.

    https://www.thenorthface.co.uk/innov...turelight.html

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    Top of the line is Shakedry. Astonishing bit of kit that's being discontinued. Got an insulated one and a standard one on ebay. Amazing in the rain when I'm on the bike. The insulated one is outrageous in cold/wet weather. You can get away with much lighter weight clothes underneath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrigles View Post
    I’ve recently ordered Keela Stratus…which will be my first non Goretex waterproof jacket… dual protection tech looks interesting/innovative and also comes highly recommended.. great prices too..

    https://keelaoutdoors.com/product/stratus-sdp-shell/

    https://youtu.be/8RZXxRzBnEY


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    I had a Keela jacket a few years back, Munro I think it was. The dual protection thing was an interesting concept, the main thing that enticed me to try it was the thought if mountain rescue teams are using it, it can't be bad.

    I liked it, build quality was good and it felt just more 'durable' than other hard shells I've had. Breathability wasn't fantastic, but for lower intensity stuff like general outdoors, walk8ng the dog etc I think it'd be fine. Put it this way, I'd quite happily have another one.

    Think I might go and have a look at the Keela website now actually…

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    I would add montane to the list for goretex

    I have an an earlier version of this

    https://montane.com/collections/mens...erproof-jacket
    Last edited by Middo; 5th December 2022 at 13:01.

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    All Goretex fabric is sold by W.L. Gore company.

    So, if Arcteryx are just using fabric which any company can also (and do buy), why is Arcteryx supposedly better than another companies who buy exactly the same fabric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    All Goretex fabric is sold by W.L. Gore company.

    So, if Arcteryx are just using fabric which any company can also (and do buy), why is Arcteryx supposedly better than another companies who buy exactly the same fabric?
    There are many, many different types of Gore Tex, with different face fabrics, membranes, breathability, durability, and so on. Without going in to tedious detail, Arc'teryx buy decent fabrics and stick it together well. So although it may all be generally branded as Gore Tex, an Arc'teryx Alpha SV (3 layer Gore Tex Pro N100d) will have a very different lifespan and finish to a Patagonia Gore Tex Paclite jacket.

    Gore tex alone is not comparing apple with apples.

    If you want a waterproof jacket for Kili, light is right. It'll mostly live in your bag, assuming you're not going in the rainy season. I've climbed Kili 8 times and I've rarely needed to wear my Gore-tex for rain protection (excepting one particularly miserable trip when it rained for all 7 days!).

    I spend my life in the mountains, Guide all over the world, and am on a mountain rescue team. I get cheap or free kit from most manufacturers. I choose to use almost exclusively Arc'teryx, because in my view it works best for my needs, and fits me well. That's not to say I recommend it for dog walking in Blighty, but if you're not watching the pennies and want a decent jacket, they are hard to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdiotAbroad View Post
    There are many, many different types of Gore Tex, with different face fabrics, membranes, breathability, durability, and so on. Without going in to tedious detail, Arc'teryx buy decent fabrics and stick it together well. So although it may all be generally branded as Gore Tex, an Arc'teryx Alpha SV (3 layer Gore Tex Pro N100d) will have a very different lifespan and finish to a Patagonia Gore Tex Paclite jacket.

    Gore tex alone is not comparing apple with apples.

    If you want a waterproof jacket for Kili, light is right. It'll mostly live in your bag, assuming you're not going in the rainy season. I've climbed Kili 8 times and I've rarely needed to wear my Gore-tex for rain protection (excepting one particularly miserable trip when it rained for all 7 days!).

    I spend my life in the mountains, Guide all over the world, and am on a mountain rescue team. I get cheap or free kit from most manufacturers. I choose to use almost exclusively Arc'teryx, because in my view it works best for my needs, and fits me well. That's not to say I recommend it for dog walking in Blighty, but if you're not watching the pennies and want a decent jacket, they are hard to beat.
    Spot on Gore Tex is just a trademarked name which incorporates a multitude of fabric ranges from the company.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aa388 View Post
    Spot on Gore Tex is just a trademarked name which incorporates a multitude of fabric ranges from the company.


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    Strange then that someone says they must have a 'Goretex' jacket, which could be one of many fabrics, rather than another from a different manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Strange then that someone says they must have a 'Goretex' jacket, which could be one of many fabrics, rather than another from a different manufacturer.
    Not really. It's like buying a cotton shirt or merino wool jumper. Not all shirts and jumpers made from the same material will be the same quality.

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