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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    No one cares about a Datejust. They are what the desperate to own a Rolex buy.
    I don’t agree with that statement at all. I would personally take a DJ 36 all day long over any of the professional range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    I don’t agree with that statement at all. I would personally take a DJ 36 all day long over any of the professional range.
    Girls watch, period.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    I don’t agree with that statement at all. I would personally take a DJ 36 all day long over any of the professional range.
    Some did and will buy one as first choice, but Datejust waiting lists are the overspill to lack of availability in the professional range. Plus, as per previous post, 36mm hunters have to compete with girls jamming the list too.

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    Some did and will buy one as first choice, but Datejust waiting lists are the overspill to lack of availability in the professional range. .
    Agreed they shouldn’t be on a waiting list but then should any of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Each to their own.
    Of course.
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  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Agreed they shouldn’t be on a waiting list but then should any of them!
    But that's an entirely different, albeit similarly boring topic.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    Some did and will buy one as first choice, but Datejust waiting lists are the overspill to lack of availability in the professional range. Plus, as per previous post, 36mm hunters have to compete with girls jamming the list too.
    Shocking these women buying stuff, they’ll be voting and driving next.

    Total BS what you said about the DJ. I have one and do care about it, it’s a classic watch that goes with most occasions and I didn’t buy it because I was desperate to get a Rolex. I prefer to it a Submariner or similar.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post

    No one cares about a Datejust. They are what the desperate to own a Rolex buy.
    In the last ten years I’ve had;

    Numerous 16610lv “Kermit’s”
    Explorer 2
    Rose gold and steel root beer
    Skydweller
    Hulk
    Sub
    Starbucks
    DD40
    Sd4k
    Numerous Daytonas
    Yachtmaster
    Pepsi
    Batman
    Batgirl

    Having recently sold all of my watches and bought a dj41 (the first dj I’ve ever bought and owned), I can say wholeheartedly your flippant statement is ridiculous.
    Ive loved all of the sports Rolex I’ve owned but felt they reached such prices that at this moment in my life I’d prefer the monetary gains they’d made. (I’m lucky I sold most of mine earlier this year and end of last year).
    I’ve just bought a DJ41 which i bought as a matching pair of datejust for me and my wife as a wedding gift.
    I am over the moon with my particular watch and I’m enjoying the watch like I did my first Rolex. Yes it’s different than a sports model but I like the fact it pairs well with a suit and smart attire. I will probably buy another sports model and have dj41 for work/smart wear and a sports model for the weekend.
    Last edited by Yeti; 27th November 2022 at 21:44.

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by hansblix2001 View Post
    Shocking these women buying stuff, they’ll be voting and driving next.

    Total BS what you said about the DJ. I have one and do care about it, it’s a classic watch that goes with most occasions and I didn’t buy it because I was desperate to get a Rolex. I prefer to it a Submariner or similar.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    In the last ten years I’ve had;

    Numerous 16610lv “Kermit’s”
    Explorer 2
    Rose gold and steel root beer
    Skydweller
    Hulk
    Sub
    Starbucks
    DD40
    Sd4k
    Numerous Daytonas
    Yachtmaster

    Having recently sold all of my watches and bought a dj41 (the first dj I’ve ever bought and owned), I can say wholeheartedly your flippant statement is ridiculous.
    Ive loved all of the sports Rolex I’ve owned but felt they reached such prices that at this moment in my life I’d prefer the monetary gains they’d made. (I’m lucky I sold most of mine earlier this year and end of last year).
    I’ve just bought a DJ41 which i bought as a matching pair of datejust for me and my wife as a wedding gift.
    I am over the moon with my particular watch and I’m enjoying the watch like I did my first Rolex. Yes it’s different than a sports model but I like the fact it pairs well with a suit and smart attire. I will probably buy another sports model and have dj41 for work/smart wear and a sports model for the weekend.
    It's not BS or flippant. Don't get your kickers in a twist.

    It's a boring production watch millions wear, so yes, it has desirability albeit is as drab as dishwater, which is why it has a trillion different versions.

    My comment was relevant to the post in that ore Datejust sales have undoubtably been as a direct result of some not being able to buy a sports model, but HAVE to own a Rolex. That will fade and the boring Datejust folk will fill the void as much as the Datejust will fill the windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    I don’t agree with that statement at all. I would personally take a DJ 36 all day long over any of the professional range.
    Me too, or an OP36. Some of us don’t like divers or so- called sports watches. Some of us prefer 36mm watches too!

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    Ouch £6k loss!

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    VC Overseas white dial now being offered by greys at £300 above RRP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti View Post
    In the last ten years I’ve had;
    Was it you who had the anniversary green RG DD40 here recently? How come it didn't last? Drop dead gorgeous watch although RG isn't for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    No one cares about a Datejust. They are what the desperate to own a Rolex buy.
    What on earth are you on about? The Datejust is a total classic. You sound like your view of watches is limited to their investment return..

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    What on earth are you on about? The Datejust is a total classic. You sound like your view of watches is limited to their investment return..
    Total classic - lol.

    The whole point of the thread questions watches as investment, so merely responding on topic. The comment makes no reference to my own view on watch choices.

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    Most people who wear a Datejust are very fond of letting people know about it and most of them are gold just to make it easy. It is without doubt a very ostentatious watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Me too, or an OP36. Some of us don’t like divers or so- called sports watches. Some of us prefer 36mm watches too!
    I was considering a 36 mm daydate last week, it was a stunning watch, I tried it on and it just looked too small, I haven’t got large wrists, It just didn’t look right. Maybe I’m too used to large watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Girls watch, period.
    Rolex’s biggest seller for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Rolex’s biggest seller for decades.
    With four case sizes, two specifically aimed at ladies, half a dozen material options, bezel and bracelet options before you get to the 100 plus (?) dial configurations, I would hope it is their biggest seller.

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    I put my name down - expression of interest they call it in WOS - for an Explorer ll (black dial) and didn’t get the Spanish Inquisition as I was expecting. Mind you I could be dead by the time one turns up I suppose. The white dial version had a closed list apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slamdoor View Post
    I put my name down - expression of interest they call it in WOS - for an Explorer ll (black dial) and didn’t get the Spanish Inquisition as I was expecting. Mind you I could be dead by the time one turns up I suppose. The white dial version had a closed list apparently.
    I cannot see the list being closed for much longer on a white dial Explorer 2.
    Last edited by boring_sandwich; 28th November 2022 at 15:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    I cannot see the list being closed for much longer on a white dial Explorer 2.
    Agree, when there's no money to be made on these models, the waiting list goes from long to short faster than you can adjust a glidelock.

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    Just had a look on C24 and there are 19 126720VTNR listed from £21-30k.

    Surely that must be the entire UK alloaction!


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    Quote Originally Posted by David_D View Post
    Just had a look on C24 and there are 19 126720VTNR listed from £21-30k.

    Surely that must be the entire UK alloaction!
    There are 888 gmt master 2 ref 126710 and even more blnr models. Never seen so many.
    Last edited by Stuno1; 28th November 2022 at 18:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Rolex’s biggest seller for decades.
    Yep, but I stand by my comment Tony.

    Each to their own, but not something I would consider.
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    This Rolex Sports Watch is Now Below Retail

    I see Rolex steel sports will be as follows in the next few years, in this order. This is not my order of preference, for example I prefer black to white Daytona or the black exp 2 to a black sub

    Below retail:

    Yachtmaster 2
    Deepsea black

    A few hundred to 1k above retail

    Explorer 1
    Milgauss black
    Yachtmaster 1
    Exp 2 black

    2k above retail

    Explorer 2 white
    Milgauss Blue
    JC deep
    Sea dweller
    Black Sub

    3-4k above

    Batman
    Starbucks

    4-5k above

    Pepsi

    7k above

    Green GMT

    9k

    Daytona Black

    11k

    Daytona White
    Last edited by ac11111; 28th November 2022 at 20:25.

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    The Milgausses used to stink out the AD windows before the pandemic hit so I'd imagine they wouldn't trade at a premium once the market recalibrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The Milgausses used to stink out the AD windows before the pandemic hit so I'd imagine they wouldn't trade at a premium once the market recalibrates
    Same with the Explorer 1 and 2.

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    Brand new Spites being offered at £19.5k on dealer groups now. Pepsi £16k

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest172 View Post
    Brand new Spites being offered at £19.5k on dealer groups now. Pepsi £16k
    What on earth is a Spite?
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    What on earth is a Spite?
    I know what I mean. Obviously I mean the silly
    nickname Sprite

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    Quote Originally Posted by forest172 View Post
    I know what I mean. Obviously I mean the silly
    nickname Sprite
    I still do not understand which watch you are referring to (I suspect I am not alone).
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    I still do not understand which watch you are referring to (I suspect I am not alone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    I still do not understand which watch you are referring to (I suspect I am not alone).
    126720VTNR

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac11111 View Post
    I see Rolex steel sports will be as follows in the next few years, in this order. This is not my order of preference, for example I prefer black to white Daytona or the black exp 2 to a black sub

    Below retail:

    Yachtmaster 2
    Deepsea black

    A few hundred to 1k above retail

    Explorer 1
    Milgauss black
    Yachtmaster 1
    Exp 2 black

    2k above retail

    Explorer 2 white
    Milgauss Blue
    JC deep
    Sea dweller
    Black Sub

    3-4k above

    Batman
    Starbucks

    4-5k above

    Pepsi

    7k above

    Green GMT

    9k

    Daytona Black

    11k

    Daytona White
    I think even that is wishful thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    WTF is that supposed to be?
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    WTF is that supposed to be?

    https://www.rolex.com/watches/gmt-ma...vtnr-0002.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slamdoor View Post
    Put my name down for an explorer ll black today. No idea how long the wait is but it at least stops my watch hunting for the time being.
    Hopefully not too long. Lovely watch and wear’s fantastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Jeez - that is terrible on so many levels.

    Jubilee bracelets do not suit any of the Sports watches IMHO.

    After all these years they do not/did not need to start the whole 'crown on the left' malarky - too many gone before.

    And do not get me started on the 'names'........
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Jeez - that is terrible on so many levels.
    Agreed and its no better in the flesh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Agreed and its no better in the flesh!
    You don’t own these watches though right? Just trying it on the showcase at dealers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac11111 View Post
    You don’t own these watches though right? Just trying it on the showcase at dealers?
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Jeez - that is terrible on so many levels.

    Jubilee bracelets do not suit any of the Sports watches IMHO.

    After all these years they do not/did not need to start the whole 'crown on the left' malarky - too many gone before.

    And do not get me started on the 'names'........
    I knew nothing about this watch until three minutes ago and I wish I could restore myself to this state.

    Rolex are throwing everything they got at the stupid fanbois and as expected, they are lapping it up. Sprite, yeah.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    The Milgausses used to stink out the AD windows before the pandemic hit so I'd imagine they wouldn't trade at a premium once the market recalibrates
    Milgi plural.

  46. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    Forums are a poor reference for where values are, being insulated with in-house deals.

    Premiums have cooled off massively and it's probably impossible to accurately predict where they will end up with so much going on in the economy. General opinion suggests doom and gloom, but only an idiot would see Daytona's at list in the next 5 years. Personally I think the 'price adjustment' has happened, so no more twenty grand Starbucks, but all sports models commanding current premiums for the foreseeable.

    No one cares about a Datejust. They are what the desperate to own a Rolex buy.
    Whilst I agree with you to an extent, there are people who genuinely would pick a DJ over a sports model.
    DJ36 is too small for me personally, but a DJ41, fluted bezel with a green or blue dial is stunning.
    Last edited by Nairn1980; 29th November 2022 at 08:21. Reason: Sp

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    Agreed on the “sprite”,totally unbalanced and one for the fan boys . But there is a difference in the design and not just a different colour bezel which depending on dealer grey dealer hype commands a higher presence on the secondary market with a corresponding price. Rolex have innovated their sport watches with the jubilee bracelet to jewellery status to counteract their prices and try to show worth in their designs . And whilst it might not be popular opinion bezel ,dial and bezel colours that command higher prices are merely “the emperor’s new clothes”.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan16520 View Post
    Agreed on the “sprite”,totally unbalanced and one for the fan boys . But there is a difference in the design and not just a different colour bezel which depending on dealer grey dealer hype commands a higher presence on the secondary market with a corresponding price. Rolex have innovated their sport watches with the jubilee bracelet to jewellery status to counteract their prices and try to show worth in their designs . And whilst it might not be popular opinion bezel ,dial and bezel colours that command higher prices are merely “the emperor’s new clothes”.


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    How is it more unbalanced than the usual GMT II?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toad monitor View Post
    Milgi plural.
    Or Milgeese? :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Most people who wear a Datejust are very fond of letting people know about it and most of them are gold just to make it easy. It is without doubt a very ostentatious watch.
    I hope you’re joking… Here’s a pic of mine, after all I do need to let everyone know about this incredibly ostentatious watch.


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