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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    The photo of the watch has geo data in it - comes back to this location:
    ......, Swansea........
    The Ernest Jones receipt in the photo with the Tudor is from the Swansea branch.
    Last edited by Raffe; 27th September 2022 at 17:32.
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    Last edited by Raffe; 27th September 2022 at 17:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Certainly not the most affluent of areas when looking on google maps!
    There's an MX5 at the top of the road


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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Certainly not the most affluent of areas when looking on google maps!
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    Note number plate on BM in second link..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac82 View Post
    Note number plate on BM in second link..
    Superb observation.
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    The collective have solved it.

    Andy has the address and we can all go back to discussing SC infractions and Kwasi.
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    Sat here astounded* by the power of the in-house TZ detective team

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    The photo of the watch has geo data in it - comes back to this location:
    *removed* Swansea, Wales, *removed*
    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    The Ernest Jones receipt in the photo with the Tudor is from the Swansea branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ac82 View Post
    Note number plate on BM in second link..


    *especially in case there is a genuine issue causing the delay (inlight of the news article posted above) and the personal info shared in the public domain
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    Quote Originally Posted by ac82 View Post
    Note number plate on BM in second link..
    Very good..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    *especially in case there is a genuine issue causing the delay (inlight of the news article posted above) and the personal info shared in the public domain
    The articles is from 2018 and in the end others covered the expenses and he didn't have to sell anything. Pretty much a BS sob story.

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/weste...81526522170384

    https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ffionsrainbow
    Last edited by Raffe; 27th September 2022 at 17:47.
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    Who needs Line of Duty when you have TZ. This thread has been unreal!

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    This one looks like him too:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Then we disagree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Then we disagree.


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    You need to wind your neck in, because your coming across like a bit of a c*ck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Is this the part where the forum heroes gang up on the guy who has a different opinion?

    If you want to call me rude names at least have the stones to leave the asterisks out.


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    That you, Ali?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Is this the part where the forum heroes gang up on the guy who has a different opinion?

    If you want to call me rude names at least have the stones to leave the asterisks out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ac82 View Post
    Note number plate on BM in second link..
    Your username should have been ac12.

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    Another site running the fund raising story states he works at the DVLA
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wal...y-15567766.amp

    Could this be him, raising money to sue his employer over discrimination of his spinal issues?
    https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/ju...eople-at-dvla/

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    Parcel force delivered Item missing / stolen `

    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    The articles is from 2018 and in the end others covered the expenses and he didn't have to sell anything. Pretty much a BS sob story.

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/weste...81526522170384

    https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ffionsrainbow
    A bit harsh! That can take its toll on any family.

    However, I think a deadline should be set. Contact needs to be made with OP even if it means paying it off in chunks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighty View Post
    Another site running the fund raising story states he works at the DVLA
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wal...y-15567766.amp

    Could this be him, raising money to sue his employer over discrimination of his spinal issues?
    https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/ju...eople-at-dvla/
    (--> BP)
    Last edited by Raffe; 27th September 2022 at 19:29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    That you, Ali?
    Or that James_

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    The articles is from 2018 and in the end others covered the expenses and he didn't have to sell anything. Pretty much a BS sob story.

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/weste...81526522170384

    https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/ffionsrainbow
    Not sure that's called for. His daughter was in genuine need and people put their hands in their pockets. We do the same on here.

    What's the BS sob story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Not sure that's called for. His daughter was in genuine need and people put their hands in their pockets. We do the same on here.

    What's the BS sob story?
    The sob story is that he was going around the press telling them that he was going to sell his house and car when weeks later he hadn't done so but had started a gofundme instead (because friends had convinced him to do so).



    To support this he plastered dozens of pictures of his daughter, including x-rays with her date of birth, on the interwebs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Then we disagree.

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    Yep, you can by all means disagree, I'm only stating the facts. Martyn did nothing wrong and you were indeed hitching your pants up for nothing.

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    Quite the thread - No villain post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Just your opinion.
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    Back it up with some evidence, I'm more than happy to be proved wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    The sob story is that he was going around the press telling them that he was going to sell his house and car when weeks later he hadn't done so but had started a gofundme instead (because friends had convinced him to do so).



    To support this he plastered dozens of pictures of his daughter, including x-rays with her date of birth, on the interwebs.
    So he played the press and found an alternative way to fund his daughter's operation? I can't see the problem.

    If you separate the above from the 'missing' bag incident and any personal prejudice, he hasn't actually done anything any desperate parent wouldn't?

    Edit: just read the BP thread. Oh dear. Doesn’t look good.
    Last edited by Onelasttime; 28th September 2022 at 10:47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boring_sandwich View Post
    Certainly not the most affluent of areas when looking on google maps!
    I can assure you that Penlan is definitely NOT one of the more salubrious areas of Jackland, if there is such a thing!
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    This level of doxxing is what scummy sites like 4Chan are notorious for; it's a sad day when TZ-UK descends to the same level. All this information could have been passed on by PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    This level of doxxing is what scummy sites like 4Chan are notorious for; it's a sad day when TZ-UK descends to the same level. All this information could have been passed on by PM.
    Not really. It was all public domain and a group effort.

    That said /b/ would be proud.

    The real scummy thing here is robbing £800 through lack of refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    This level of doxxing is what scummy sites like 4Chan are notorious for; it's a sad day when TZ-UK descends to the same level. All this information could have been passed on by PM.
    Threads like these help members discover who they may want to deal with or not. I don't mean the one selling the bag either. It has been established seller is wrong un many pages ago. Now its just distasteful and should be deleted. One of the pack leaders will come along and ask me do I own the forum shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post

    The real scummy thing here is robbing £800 through lack of refund.
    ^this^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Is that a request or an order?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    This level of doxxing is what scummy sites like 4Chan are notorious for; it's a sad day when TZ-UK descends to the same level. All this information could have been passed on by PM.
    Helping someone recover £800 via information available in the public domain is hardly the actions of a scummy site.

    The seller was happy to engage in open so the response is a follow on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenlec View Post
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    You don’t have to. But you do.
    It’s tz at its best.
    If I ever get my £800 back I PROMISE to put £200 into
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    Aramis, You seem very chatty for someone who said very little in the past 6 years. Something to sell perhaps? GLWTS but maybe use a better shipping solution than he who you seem to want to protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    Aramis, You seem very chatty for someone who said very little in the past 6 years. Something to sell perhaps? GLWTS but maybe use a better shipping solution than he who you seem to want to protect.
    Yes you’ve just got to reach that post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    The info was garnered from an old sales post where juice put a link to a photo account. It was only viewable to TZ members who qualified.
    It then degenerated into a free for all on a public part of the forum.
    Quite how doxing him on here has helped the OP is beyond me.
    If I was juice, having had my details including a pic with my daughter plastered over a PUBLIC part of the forum my reaction would be similar to his at this moment.
    Nothing has been gained.


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    An alternative view, supported by facts and timeline in this thread is that the seller has gone no contact despite saying they’d resolve it, and the information has been gathered to support the buyer in resolving. With a name and address he can pursue small claims which is a significant gain.

    You keep defending the scammer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pointy View Post
    This level of doxxing is what scummy sites like 4Chan are notorious for; it's a sad day when TZ-UK descends to the same level. All this information could have been passed on by PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Exactly. I’ve suggested similar very early on but the forum heroes just carry on. Stuff like this can cause hosts to bin forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Doxing on a public forum is still out of order.
    It could have been done via PM.
    I'm afraid we're going to have to disagree, there was a time when seller and buyer could have sorted all this by PM, any hardships explained and some form of repayment structure put in place, it's the sellers failure to engage with the buyer that has brought us to where we are, you appear to be suggesting that the sellers reluctance to engage with the buyer is due to a TZ witch hunt, in my opinion ''that ship has sailed''.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Doxing on a public forum is still out of order.
    It could have been done via PM.


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    You've used this term several times now, yet you fail to appreciate what it means....

    "What does doxing a person mean?


    The word “doxing” (also spelled "doxxing") is derived from the term “dropping dox,” or “documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, financial harm, or other exploitation of targeted individuals."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Doxing on a public forum is still out of order.
    It could have been done via PM.


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    Is doxing illegal if the information is gained from already published sites?
    In short has anyone infiltrated anything illegal to get this information?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    The info was garnered from an old sales post where juice put a link to a photo account. It was only viewable to TZ members who qualified.



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    The photo link & related account is not protected or secured & therefore by definition it is already in the public domain is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griswold View Post
    You've used this term several times now, yet you fail to appreciate what it means....

    "What does doxing a person mean?


    The word “doxing” (also spelled "doxxing") is derived from the term “dropping dox,” or “documents.” Doxing is a form of cyberbullying that uses sensitive or secret information, statements, or records for the harassment, exposure, financial harm, or other exploitation of targeted individuals."



    Pray tell where cyber bullying, harassment, financial harm, exploitation or secret information has played any part in any of the posts above. If you must use such words, please use them in their correct context!

    Tbf it's also used when all the publicly available information about someone is aggregated in one place.

    Its a wee bit of a stretch in this case but not actually wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    Examples of doxing

    Releasing an individual's private, personally identifying information online. Revealing previously unknown information of a private person online. Releasing information of a private person online could be damaging to their reputation and those of their personal and/or professional associates.


    Pick any definition.


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    What about when they have already released the information online themselves, say in a fb post, photo sharing site, requests for charity to help overcome personal hardship or perhaps even interviews with news papers be they local or national?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    All those you have listed are actions decided on by the person.
    Third parties deciding to publish on another site in a derogatory fashion without the originators consent is doxing.
    Say for example, in this case it turns out juice was unable to pay until the end of the month and does so.
    In the future juice applies for employment and his prospective employer finds this thread. As it is common for employers to take due diligence and research.
    The guy won’t get the job.
    That’s why I’m sticking to my guns. This doxing is out of order. Morally.
    It has achieved nothing. If juice has read the thread he is more likely not to pay.
    Those that ‘tracked him down’ could have simply PM’d the OP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    I was in a foreign jail for a spell.


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    I doubt you are that exciting, but the place was much nicer when you were silent on here.

    You just seem unnecessarily argumentative on every topic you respond to.

    Which former member are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    All those you have listed are actions decided on by the person.
    Third parties deciding to publish on another site in a derogatory fashion without the originators consent is doxing.
    Say for example, in this case it turns out juice was unable to pay until the end of the month and does so.
    In the future juice applies for employment and his prospective employer finds this thread. As it is common for employers to take due diligence and research.
    The guy won’t get the job.
    That’s why I’m sticking to my guns. This doxing is out of order. Morally.
    It has achieved nothing. If juice has read the thread he is more likely not to pay.
    Those that ‘tracked him down’ could have simply PM’d the OP.


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    Have you missed the bit where he was going to reimburse Len over a week ago and since the 19 has been in total radio silence?
    Other than the fact you’re trolling I have got no idea why you’re getting your tits in a knot. Unless……. No, that would be just silly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    All those you have listed are actions decided on by the person.
    Third parties deciding to publish on another site in a derogatory fashion without the originators consent is doxing.
    Say for example, in this case it turns out juice was unable to pay until the end of the month and does so.
    In the future juice applies for employment and his prospective employer finds this thread. As it is common for employers to take due diligence and research.
    The guy won’t get the job.
    That’s why I’m sticking to my guns. This doxing is out of order. Morally.
    It has achieved nothing. If juice has read the thread he is more likely not to pay.
    Those that ‘tracked him down’ could have simply PM’d the OP.


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    That is not a total unreasonable stance, the issue I take with it is that Juice has created this situation by ghosting the buyer, if he had responded to lenlecs multiple pm’s & WhatsApp’s with a simple ‘it needs to wait till payday’ then expectations would have been managed, by ghosting him he has unfortunately left himself open to investigation.

    The fact he has not even attempted to re-engage here to me speaks volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis9 View Post
    I have sold a more valuable item via the forum.
    Why no feedback in H&V though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj2k View Post
    …the place was much nicer when you were silent on here.

    You just seem unnecessarily argumentative on every topic you respond to.

    Which former member are you?
    I agree

    Is it too much to ask for at least some constructive comments on a topic such as watches?

    There is also little point in racing to 250 posts with your current unhelpful attitude.

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