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Thread: Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    With Monday 19th September now being deemed a Bank Holiday - whereby shops and business's are allowed to open.

    I hope and pray that all shops and business's - apart from Emergency and Essential services will remain closed.

    Not only as a mark of respect to Her Majesty the Queen, who dedicated 70 years and 214 days to not only this country but the Commonwealth.
    But so everyone can come together and pay their respect on a day of National Mourning.

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    Keep them open if people want to Work and Shop.

    If you want to mark your respects do it.

    Of course shops and businesses are allowed to open BTW.

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    The Bank Holiday decision allows people to make their own minds up and that is the right decision.

    I doubt there will be much activity at the time of the actual funeral, but to restrict what the population does for a whole 24 hours wouldn't be the right thing to do.

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    I think it’s the right decision
    I’m gonna open my shop. But also I’ll
    Pay my respects to the queen
    God bless

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    If the Royal Family are happy to compensate every business and worker for a day's loss of earnings, then yes, they should close. Otherwise, crack on.

    I'll be enjoying a bonus day off with family, probably walking somewhere in the rain, and avoiding all TV and radio.

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    Might spend a few hours Christmas shopping in Poundland.

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    But what about those who are made to work by their employers.
    Are they also not entitled to pay their respect, if they wish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topcat30093 View Post
    But what about those who are made to work by their employers.
    Are they also not entitled to pay their respect, if they wish?
    Made? If your contract states you work Bank Holidays, then you work. No one needs a day off to pay their respects to HRH and watching it on the telly is not the only way one can do it.

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    Schools will be closed so I won't be working next Monday (although I'll be teaching my regular private pupils later on). I'd be more annoyed but I'm in the middle of a crazy busy period so I'm actually pleased for the time off.

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    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?

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    Looks like more and more businesses are going to close on the day - I think some of them are feeling the public "mood" before deciding on what to do; seems more are in favour of closing...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62879563

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?
    I would hope they go ahead. I am sure the consultant would know but I guess they are rearranging everything asap.
    Last edited by Sinnlover; 12th September 2022 at 19:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?
    I work in an NHS hospital so waiting to find that out! In the organisations I work for, nothing has been decided (or at least communicated) today. Obviously emergency services will be at work as usual but either services will be like a normal bank holiday (such as New Years Day) or run normally is my expectation. If the former then it is likely non urgent surgery (that which can wait more than 24 hours) will be cancelled, if the latter, all surgery should go ahead.

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    Interested to know what’s happening in other hospitals, unfortunately today, received notice of cancellation of Monday surgery. No alternative date offered. Not me, but immediate family member. Stunned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?
    We are waiting to hear. Update: see post #19.

    Dave
    Last edited by dforgrieve; 13th September 2022 at 21:39.

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    I’m guessing large stores and chains will be mostly closed and small local shops will be open.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Here is an updated list of supermarkets, services and retail stores that will be closed next Monday for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II’s state funeral.

    Supermarkets

    ALDI
    LIDL
    Morrisons (believed to be closing for 4 hours Including Online/Click & Collect)
    Marks & Spencer
    Sainsbury's (Including Online Groceries - Some Sainsbury's convenience stores and petrol stations will be open from 5pm to 10pm)
    Tesco (Larger Stores will close, including online, smaller Express shops will open at 17:00, but a small number of stores in central London and Windsor will remain open throughout the day)
    Waitrose (Except for the odd exception)

    Services

    The Royal Mail (Suspended services)

    Retail stores

    Apple Stores
    Argos
    B&Q (Click and collect and home delivery services will also be temporarily suspended on the day)
    Dunelm
    Halfords
    Harrods
    Homebase
    IKEA
    John Lewis
    Lakeland
    Next
    Poundland
    Primark
    Screwfix
    The Entertainer
    Wickes
    WH Smith
    Zara

    Attractions

    Alton Towers
    Birmingham Museums Trust (All Birminghams Museums will be closed)
    Blue Diamond Garden Centres
    Chessington
    Drayton Manor
    Dudley Zoo
    Eden Project
    Hampton court Palace
    Kensington Palace
    Kew Gardens (Checked and can't purchase tickets)
    Kew Palace
    Legoland
    London Zoo
    Madame Tussauds
    Natural history Museum
    Science Museum
    Sea Life
    Shakespeare's Family Homes
    Shrek's Adventure
    The Bear Grylls Adventure
    The London Eye
    The Shard (Checked and can't purchase tickets)
    Thorpe Park
    Tower Bridge (Checked and can't purchase tickets)
    Tower Dungeon (Various locations)
    Tower of London
    Warner Bros. Studio Tour London (Aka Harry Potter Tour)
    Warwick Castle
    West Midlands Safari Park
    Whipsnade Zoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?
    We were told today that we are “business as usual” on Monday. All scheduled surgery is expected to happen.

    Although with the schools being off, childcare will be a concern for many staff.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpatx View Post


    Screwfix

    Nooooooooo!!! Not Screwfix. Oh Lord, why have you forsaken me?

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    Monday is first day of freshers week for university students. I bet they are glad the uni bar will be closed, so they can sit in their 10 ft square room in uni halls and silently pay their respects.
    Last edited by noTAGlove; 13th September 2022 at 23:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    Monday is first day of freshers week for university students. I bet they are glad the uni bar will be closed, so they can sit in their 10 ft square room in uni halls and silently pay their respects.
    Which universities are closing the SU bars, catering outlets and cancelling welcome events? I've just checked with my daughter's and it all seems to be still going ahead although the library and teaching facilities will be shut.
    Don't just do something, sit there. - TNH

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    My daughter’s school trip is still going ahead with pick up at 9am Monday even though the rest of the school will be shut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    Monday is first day of freshers week for university students. I bet they are glad the uni bar will be closed, so they can sit in their 10 ft square room in uni halls and silently pay their respects.
    Poor things. Perhaps could use the time for some study.

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Poor things. Perhaps could use the time for some study.
    It is freshers week. University teaching doesn’t start until 26th September, smart arse.

    No, joyless smart arse.
    Last edited by noTAGlove; 14th September 2022 at 09:48.

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    cancelled my clinic on monday and all other outpatients clinics and elective surgery, apparently the public have been kicking off on facebook, dont blame them to be fair, I was willing to see my ten patients and hopefully speed up there treatment, nevermind. Off for a walk on monday, will leave the wife at home in front of TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    It is freshers week. University teaching doesn’t stay until 26th September, smart arse.

    No, joyless smart arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyCasper View Post
    Anybody know what's happening in NHS hospitals, specifically scheduled surgery, including surgery for cancer?
    So the answer in the end was the solution was fudged. Basically emergency services running, staff who “volunteer” can work as usual to keep some clinics and lists running but the expectation is most activity which is not an emergency will be off.

    I reviewed the patients I was due to see on Monday and prioritised the more urgent ones into new slots and the others will be rearranged. This was on the basis that travel to and from work will be difficult on Monday, we likely won’t have a lot of support staff as many will choose to be off and a number patients may choose not to attend due to travel/wanting to watch the funeral.

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    I will be at work, options at work are either an unpaid day off, use a holiday or come in.

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    Is it not a free holiday? Ie not off your allowance

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    As a small business owner I think closure will be the norm
    It will be akin to Easter Sunday . A good time to spend with family irrespective of personal views on the royal family. Win win in my book.


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    One must expect disruption during the mother of all grief fests.

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Is it not a free holiday? Ie not off your allowance
    It is not off your allowance. But many don’t get paid for bank holiday; a contractor/freelancer, for example.
    Last edited by noTAGlove; 14th September 2022 at 14:27.

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    Being retired, it makes no difference to me, it’ll be just another non- working day!

    I’ll probably watch the actual service but that’s all, I feel no compulsion to watch the inevitable blanket TV coverage.

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    Monday September 19th a National Day of Mourning - Business and shops open or closed?

    Quote Originally Posted by noTAGlove View Post
    It is not off your allowance. But many don’t get paid for bank holiday; a contractor/freelancer, for example.
    Might be off your allowance, no obligation to pay for bank holidays.

    Why should businesses pay for you to grieve and pay respects?
    Last edited by Kingstepper; 14th September 2022 at 14:32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Might be off your allowance, no obligation to pay for bank holidays.

    Why should businesses pay for you to grieve and pay respects?
    Given that it has been declared a public holiday as well as the enormity of the event I'd think that most business will grant their staff a free day off where possible. To not offer that could come across as a touch FU, in my opinion anyway.

    Where I work we've all been given an additional shift's paid leave.

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    Business as usual at my NHS Trust (I work in anaesthetics). All elective procedures going ahead. Quite right too.
    I’m sure the Queen would not have wanted peoples surgeries cancelled.

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    I'll be working
    Golf club is closed anyhow so might as well earn a corn as opposed to watching a funeral
    My staff will be in too.

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    I’ll be working

    I don’t think the Queen rated slackers ;)))))


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Why should businesses pay for you to grieve and pay respects?
    You are Sir Clive Alderton and I claim my £5.

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    Funerals are being cancelled because of the Bank Holiday.

    You can’t make it up.

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    It's like Covid all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    It's like Covid all over again.
    Do you ever stop moaning?

    I used to be a happy upbeat person until I came across you and now I am one step from becoming a manic depressive.

    You would moan if you had a threesome with Kylie Minoque and The Princess of Wales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    It's like Covid all over again.
    How was that for you? Did you manage your team ok during the pandemic, or ask random people on the internet how to do your job then too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardShark View Post
    Given that it has been declared a public holiday as well as the enormity of the event I'd think that most business will grant their staff a free day off where possible. To not offer that could come across as a touch FU, in my opinion anyway.

    Where I work we've all been given an additional shift's paid leave.
    I know this, was replying to someone who suggested it was a given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Do you ever stop moaning?

    I used to be a happy upbeat person until I came across you and now I am one step from becoming a manic depressive.

    You would moan if you had a threesome with Kylie Minoque and The Princess of Wales.
    Necrophilia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidd View Post
    Necrophilia?
    On their part or his?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidd View Post
    Necrophilia?
    Has she died?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    On their part or his?
    Very good Mick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    Made? If your contract states you work Bank Holidays, then you work. No one needs a day off to pay their respects to HRH and watching it on the telly is not the only way one can do it.
    If you are contracted to work bank holidays you are entitled to lieu day so you still get the day, just on another day…

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