Reply With QuoteThink will wait it out until it gets USB-C as rumoured next year. Having a iPad Pro and MacBook Air it still drives me nuts changing cables when travelling. Besides my iPhone 12 max Pro still runs great
New 14 Pro due at the end of next week and it’ll replace my 13 Pro Max.
Think will wait it out until it gets USB-C as rumoured next year. Having a iPad Pro and MacBook Air it still drives me nuts changing cables when travelling. Besides my iPhone 12 max Pro still runs great
You know how much that pound has dropped against the dollar in the time since the iPhone 11 came out?Originally Posted by KavKav
EU directive is planned to force phone manufacturers to standardise on port types by end of 2024 - to USB-C and standardise on fast-charging options. This is to stop the excessive waste caused by current manufactures using propietory leads (looking firmly at you Apple). Even Apple has moved to USB-C on most of its new products, Pads, MacBook. In the words of Monty Python - "it's getting very silly" sticking to lightning ports for only a few of their products.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/7/23...ghtning-ewaste
Makes sense to me. Even apple chargers have USB-C output now.
I'm sticking to my 12 pro max. And looking forward to iOS 16 in a few days time though.
“ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG
Only US models. Outside US still get a physical SIM slot.
“ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG
I spent £50 on a new battery for my X(10) and I can't see me upgrading until such as the 12 pro becomes cheap (£200 ish) :)
I like the iPhones but I use very few of the features available as I don't need them.
Decided to buy the Pro Max - moving away from Samsung as I use the iPad a lot and obviously the iPhone syncs well with it + better camera. Trade in values better with Apple too. Not best pleased with E-sim and prefer two physical slots but too bad I’ll live with it.
I have a 13 pro max which is awesome.
I get a 14 pro max this week purely because the tarif I’m on through work gives me a new model on realease.
I just use a MagSafe Duo Charger when I travel and I have another couple of MagSafe connectors for home and a MagSafe car charger for when using hire cars abroad. Love it now took me about 18 months to change ny attitude to MagSafe.
I’ll stick with my 12 Pro Max until next year - if I’m still here
This. Though I saw a worked example of the cost comparison taking into comparison state taxes and VAT that showed the actual £ vs $ unit price was about $20 more now in reality.
Worth keeping for a 3 year cycle
Use the 2 year pay monthly deal as with inflation it actually works out better a and interest free to pay for phone and airtime then Go sim only for a year to recoup some of your outlay before biting the bullet and starting again but sell your old phone for about 40% of its value .
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Will upgrade from the 12 mini to the 14 pro, can’t imagine the pro comfortable in my pocket when seated without removing it & placing on a dining table. I like the small format of the mini, but look forward to the much improved camera / lenses on the new 14.
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There are a few significant tech changes that make me want a new iPhone. One was the move to OLED screens. The satellite capability of the 14 does appeal, and it would make more sense to upgrade from my current 12 to a 14 than buy something like a Garmin Inreach mini to go alongside my 12.
^^^ pretty much this
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It’s worth bearing in mind that the satellite messaging feature will only work in the USA, and parts of Canada, for the foreseeable.
Collected my 14 Pro earlier and am setting it up now with a direct copy from my 12 Pro. I was 10 minutes early for my collection at the Apple Store and just walked in. I was the first in line and was there less than 10 minutes. I’ve never seen an Apple Store so quiet on iPhone release day.
Anyone used the upgrade programme? Can’t really figure out the benefits. Appears you’re just leasing the phone endlessly until you decide you don’t want to upgrade and keep hold of the phone you have.
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You could have said that for the last few years - wouldn't have been a wise move though
It’s essentially that.
You pay 30 quid a month or whatever the fee is forever and the result is you can a shiney new phone every year.
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Wouldn’t read much into that given preorders were backlogged by over a month queue before release. Not much point people queuing in a shop that has nothing to sell, collection only given they were all sold online.
You don't have to just rent it. You can just take the 0% for 20 months and let inflation be a discount.
Looks like they're up £100 from last year though. £1.2k for the cheapest Pro Max. Can buy an M2 MBA or iMac for that or almost two Mac Minis. Mental.
I’ve pretty much changed for the latest phone every year since the iPhone 6 however this year I’m struggling to justify it. I usually buy them out right but the cost to change is too great
iPhone 13 Pro Max users who made the change, be good to get your feedback on the new one please
Mental indeed but no more than many overpriced watches - and they’re more versatile. Tell the time too….
Seems some early adopters are experiencing severe autofocus shake with some apps, causing the whole phone to vibrate. Not a good start….
A guy from The Verge described the 13 Pro as a finished thought and the 14 Pro as a new sentence.
He said if you want a glimpse at where apple is going and are happy to ignore some rough edges go for it but if you just want a solid great phone which works and will last -and you're on the 11 pro or earlier- just get the 13 Pro
Seems a fair assesment to me.
eSims are a nightmare. You can't swap them, reset them or reuse them.
I switched to vodafone with one ended up going back to a normal one within a couple of days.
The idea is good, but the implementation and support is terrible.
Think an iPhone (at least) can store multiple eSims and activate each as required.
Agree can't swap between devices but not difficult to get another - usually just go into EE store.
Being brutally honest not noticed much difference apart from the obvious. Battery life is better on both pro and max. Screen is great the pill/island I now fixate on it where before I was used to the recess.
Screen is clearly better always on display at the moment is a gimmick imho. I have turned it off, camera seems better; raw is great. However I rarely shoot raw.
I only use the default camera app so can’t comment on the the jitter issues. It’s an evolution rather than anything ground breaking.
I use esims I buy of the internet as I travel so nice to have the ability along with a physical sim.
I see the sim tray / physical sims already gone in the USA iPhone 14's. Guess this means we are likely on borrowed time and maybe on the iPhone 15 we won't have them in UK.
I use an esim and just leave the sim tray empty. Can get a new esim qr code on Vodafone instantly through the portal. Not really any effort.
I have found O2 no real trouble with an eSIM although they are not as conveneient when swapping phones as a physical SIM.
The one lesson I did learn is not to delete the old eSIM until they have activated the new one as they send a text message to confirm which you can't get.
One of the benefits is meant to be if a phone is stolen they can't just toss the SIM card to prevent it being tracked.
Yes I will buy one, but not just yet. Skint after moving house.
The change over for me was very easy. I had an esim ready from EE. But didn’t need to scan anything or do anything. I started the new phone and restored from previous and it simply asked if I wanted to transfer the old number and I clicked yes and it was done. Still haven’t got my head around how that happened as the old phone had the old physical sim still in it and working up to that point. So the esim code they sent me remains unused.
O2 was more of a challenge mainly due to their call centre messing me around but that’s a different story.
So far 14 is good. I like the island thingy and the AOD I am getting used to! Not as well executed as some others I have seen but I guess they will improve it over time.
Screen and camera feel a decent improvement. Some other nice features just not sure if that is due to software update or the 14 itself (for example allowing you to time when you send an email).
The new ones can hold 8 esims and can auto switch depending on coverage and signal availability for when you are travelling which sounds pretty useful. At the end of the day all phones will go this way now due to the savings on using physical sims.
The biggest problem with eSIM’s at the moment, is the network operators documentation and guides are terrible. The actual process isn’t too bad, but you’re left guessing.
Vodafone told me to scan the old QR code they sent me before. That’s wrong and doesn’t work.
I found out by accident that if you remove the eSIM from the old phone, it generates a new QR code which arrives soon after by email. Nowhere does Vodafone’s website say that.
What makes that dumb is you can’t login to your account during the process as it sends you a two factor code by SMS, which you can’t record you’ve just deactivated and removed your SIM!
If I knew this all in advance it would have been a five min process and pain free.
I popped into Apple today to buy one and the salesperson advised me to stick with my 13 Max as I wasn’t using enough of the features to warrant upgrading. Nice to meet someone who listens to your needs and then advises accordingly rather just selling you the latest gadget !!
Either that or he hasn't got a 14 to sell
It's part of their sales training. Helps build trust and increases lifetime spend as a result.Either that or he hasn't got a 14 to sell
Same when you're buying a laptop and they convince you not to go for a ram/processor/storage upgrade or higher model.
You think what great guys, that's amazing. And then average upgrade cycle of a Mac goes from 6 years to 4 and you've already told 50 people the story and forget the duration when you're next upgrading thinking "these used to last longer" and "at least I saved money not going for the upgrade last time and don't need to go for it this time either".
Rinse and repeat.
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iOS 16 lets you make any number of home pages tied to whatever focus you like including relevant widgets immediately available from Lock Screen. Works for me.
SWMBO has come back to Apple after 10 years on Android and got an iPhone 14 Pro and she loves it. Very nice, but not enough to tempt me to upgrade from a 13 Pro, which is still an excellent phone; even better with IOS 16.
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The guys at Payette Forward* said that the jump from 13 to 14 not enough to justify cost. The recommended upgrade to a 13 pro is a better option.
*decent YouTube reviewers particularly on getting most out of settings. Very useful advice on latest iOS 16.
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Totally agree my 2018 iPad Pro had stopped speaking to the folio keyboard so I booked an appointment, expecting nothing could me done and I’d have an excuse to get latest IPad and Magic Keyboard.
He took folio through the back to check and give I a good cleandid the same with iPad - didn’t fix it. Then tried a hard reset and bingo!
Fortune saved (which I think will be spent on upgrade to AirPod pro v2s). Can anyone vouch for the quality of the microphone for phone calls? Any wireless headphones or buds have been useless for calls imho.
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Seems like not many people are not upgrading.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...half-2022.html
Usual sensational list headline from the Daily Heil.
I've had iphones since day dot in Apple world and currently on 13 Pro Max which is fantastic
However, first time away for three years and needing a break I have opted to ditch my 13 (business and personal) and use a burner Oppo Reno8 5G Lite (cheers Karl) for total removal and I'm loving the whole Android thing for a change. Is iOS nicer.......... I think so but I will never snobby dis Android again.
The whole Apple thing is very clever
Pitch
I contemplated making a break a few years ago and switching to a Google Pixel (moved a lot of my subscriptions away from apple...ie Apple Music to Youtube Music, Apple Photos to Google Photos and a Google One-Drive plan. Unfortunately, their handsets never got good reviews and I didn't do it. I've now just accepted my fate as being locked into apple.
Certainly not a permanent thing for me buddy but it has made a nice change, a bit like pissing in the shower or drinking beer.
Would recommend giving it a try
Pitch
They are upgrading but to the Pro models only which are on back order.
https://bestlifeonline.com/news-pee-shower-stop/
So pissing on the roses is a no no as well??
Feck I love this place
Pitch
Thank you, it’s as I expected then. Think I’ll wait till the next release before changing.
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