The Queen

[PickleB]

I read that King Charles has authorized Harry to dress in uniform at Monday's funeral. What is the significance of the large gold lanyard he wears here?

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See also...Prince Harry to stand vigil at Queen's coffin in military uniform...apparently, "At King Charles' request, Prince Harry will wear military uniform, for the first time since 2020."

[sish101]

On our village Post Box.

Sent through the ether by diddling with radio waves

[noTAGlove]

On our village Post Box.

Sent through the ether by diddling with radio waves

Is that the queen standing on her coffin?

Some kind of monarchical resurrection?

Bit weird.

[Saint-Just]

Is that the queen standing on her coffin?

Some kind of monarchical resurrection?

Bit weird.

Has it been 3 days and 3 nights yet?

[sish101]

^^^ I took it as some form of stage or podium.

Sent through the ether by diddling with radio waves

[Mr Curta]

I assumed that it hid a tissue box.

[hogthrob]

I didn’t mean at all that Harry wouldn’t have the credentials for it. Quite the opposite and that’s why it looks like that Charles is trying to make up with him. As an aside, didn’t the current Prince of Wales serve as well? No combat action but wasn’t he a helicipter pilot? I seem to remember reading a story of a civilian rescue mission in hairy conditions. Please correct me if my recollection is wrong.

Yes, he was based in Anglesey, and then flew for the East Anglican Air Ambulance.

[hogthrob]

The story I heard long ago was that Charles nearly sunk his boat/ship.

I think Possu meant William, who is now Prince of Wales.

[M4tt]

I didn’t mean at all that Harry wouldn’t have the credentials for it. Quite the opposite and that’s why it looks like that Charles is trying to make up with him. As an aside, didn’t the current Prince of Wales serve as well? No combat action but wasn’t he a helicipter pilot? I seem to remember reading a story of a civilian rescue mission in hairy conditions. Please correct me if my recollection is wrong.

He flew me, and a bunch of other air cadets who had won blues, in a VC10 (XV106 from Brize if I recall correctly) in the late seventies/early eighties. He was in RAF uniform then, I'm pretty sure he flew a Hercules at around the same time and he famously crashed an HS146 some time later, so I'd assume he was doing something in Transport Command.

[M4tt]

I think Possu meant William, who is now Prince of Wales.

Oops, I really should read the whole thread.

[Possu]

Thanks for confirming my hazy memories, gents. I did a quick search myself and the hairy conditions I mentioned seems to be a figment of my imagination. Nevertheless hats off to Prince William as well as his brother.

Interesting to hear about the King’s military history as well. As famous as his crash may be, this was the first time I heard about it. I was born in the late 70’s, so before my time I suppose.

[PickleB]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiguil...United_Kingdom

'Aiguillettes (1st Class or Royal) are of gold-wire cord and are worn on the right shoulder by, among others, admirals of the fleet, field marshals and marshals of the RAF; honorary physicians, honorary chaplains, honorary surgeons and aides-de-camp to the Sovereign; and equerries to members of the royal family. Some appointments carry the privilege of wearing a miniature Sovereign's Cypher on the points of the aiguillettes. These aiguillettes are also worn by commissioned officers of the Household Cavalry (in full dress only).'

I've no idea what uniform Aitch is wearing & why he is wearing said aiguillettes.

Edit: he's wearing them because he was an officer in the Household Calvary (Blues & Royals).

At the time he was a Personal aide-de-camp to the Queen. He lost that privilege when he stopped being a working Royal. Confusion followed for the vigil...see https://archive.ph/NkNyw.

Edit: While, according to that story, Prince Harry was not allowed to wear the I signia of a Personal aide-de-camp, looking at some photos, it appears that Prince Andrew was allowed that privilege. Maybe that might go some way to explaining the rancour that seemingly developed?

[mrushton]

Supposedly Andrew was still AdC to the Queen so he could retain the cipher.

[PickleB]

Supposedly Andrew was still AdC to the Queen so he could retain the cipher.

Someone had better edit some WIki pages:

• see Prince Andrew for Appointments 1 February 1984 – 13 January 2022: Personal aide-de-camp to the Queen
  
  
• see Personal aide-de-camp - Former ADCs for Appointed by Queen Elizabeth II - Vice Admiral - Duke of York (1 February 1984 – 13 January 2022)

Also...A statement from Buckingham Palace regarding The Duke of York: With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York’s military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen.

[pacifichrono]

I was born in the late 70’s...

Judging from your avatar photo, you have not aged well.

[Andyg]

I didn’t mean at all that Harry wouldn’t have the credentials for it. Quite the opposite and that’s why it looks like that Charles is trying to make up with him. As an aside, didn’t the current Prince of Wales serve as well? No combat action but wasn’t he a helicipter pilot? I seem to remember reading a story of a civilian rescue mission in hairy conditions. Please correct me if my recollection is wrong.

William served as a RAF Helicopter Air Sea Rescue Pilot
Harry saw active serve with the Royal Marines, before becoming being a gunner on Apache Helicopters .
Andrew was a Royal Naval Helicopter pilot and saw active service during the Falklands War.

[Possu]

Cheers.

Judging from your avatar photo, you have not aged well.

I guess several years of hanging out in the Bear Pit has taken its toll.

[PickleB]

William served as a RAF Helicopter Air Sea Rescue Pilot
Harry saw active serve with the Royal Marines, before becoming being a gunner on Apache Helicopters .
Andrew was a Royal Naval Helicopter pilot and saw active service during the Falklands War.

That's news to me...see bold.

[jaytip]

That's news to me...see bold.

According to this he was in the Royal Marines. It doesn’t say if he saw action as a Royal Marine or some other company though

https://www.forces.net/news/prince-h...and-patronages

[PickleB]

According to this he was in the Royal Marines. It doesn’t say if he saw action as a Royal Marine or some other company though

https://www.forces.net/news/prince-h...and-patronages

In the photo he's wearing a green beret as Captain General Royal Marines, an honorary military appointment, but he (to the best of my knowledge) had not completed the All Arms Commando Course. I'm not sure that counts as being in the Royal Marines, but others may disagree.

That article says "He served in the Army for 10 years, undertaking two tours of Afghanistan and rising to the rank of captain". No other military service is referred to.

[Saint-Just]

I thought all his honorary titles were rescinded but the ones he earned were kept.

[PickleB]

I thought all his honorary titles were rescinded but the ones he earned were kept.

I'm pretty sure that is correct and I don't think that a retired Captain has an automatic right to wear uniform.

However, we were prattling on about this assertion (see bold):

William served as a RAF Helicopter Air Sea Rescue Pilot
Harry saw active serve with the Royal Marines, before becoming being a gunner on Apache Helicopters .
Andrew was a Royal Naval Helicopter pilot and saw active service during the Falklands War.