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    Citizen eco drive not working

    I brought this citizen eco drive perpetual calendar E812 many moons ago and used it as my work watch. It ended up sitting in the draw for about 6-7 yrs. Moving house and it popped up so I wanted to bring it back into service. I left it out for a couple of days to charge but no joy. I purchased a new capacitor and tried again but again no joy.

    When I turn the crown the selector on the bottom sub dial does turn. Pulling the crown out one or two stops and turning does nothing. The pushers also do nothing.

    Is it completely dead or is there anything I can do?

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    Is there a full reset sequence for this model?
    Very strange it does nothing- presume you didn’t remove the stem/ crown
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    I see for a full reset it needs to be in the CHR mode
    Is there a possibility of a dead cell? Stick it outside
    Last edited by lewie; 6th September 2022 at 10:27.

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    Thanks for the reply. I wasn't aware of a full reset, I'll look into that thanks

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    I bought one of these (same movement, different dial) from ebay as spares or repairs. When it arrived it was too nice to pull apart so I went through the same process asd you - charged it, no joy. Capacitor, no joy. Just as I was about to give up, it sprang to life.

    Pull the crown out, leave it for a good few days on a windowsill. By weekend, I bet its going.
    Capacitors usually come charged, but it does usually say expect them to need charging.

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    Thanks. I tried the reset thing and it seemed to partially work which I hope indicates a low charge on the capacitor. I'll give it a few more (overcast) days on the window sill

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    Realistically it will need quite a few days persevere -

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    Just wondering if it recharges with artificial lights


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan16520 View Post
    Just wondering if it recharges with artificial lights


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    It will just a lot slower - daylight/ sunshine is 10x faster

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    OK, so just back from work, pulled the crown out two stops and I'll leave it on the window ledge till the weekend. Fingers crossed this works as I'd really like to bring it back into regular rotation

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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    OK, so just back from work, pulled the crown out two stops and I'll leave it on the window ledge till the weekend. Fingers crossed this works as I'd really like to bring it back into regular rotation

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    If your home and it’s dry actually get it outside

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    If your home and it’s dry actually get it outside
    Done

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    For illustrative purposes on the efficacy of recharging a solar powered watch, here's the blurb from a G-Shock. Much the same will apply to the Citizen.


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    Thanks for chart, pretty useful that

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    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    Thanks for chart, pretty useful that
    My pleasure. As others have said above, outside is definitely best even on a cloudy day.

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    Right then. Had the watch on the window ledge and outside with the crown out and its doing some pretty strange stuff. I've tried the reset etc but its not working properly. Basically I can't seem to adjust the reference position of the hoands apart from the seconds hand. I also can't seem to alter the time apart from an approx 2 hr period. I really don't want to bin it so does any one have any recommendations for someone who could take a look at it please? I'm hoping a service may resolve the issues.

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    Can't offer any specific advice, but would just suggest that Citizen/Miyota tend to keep the same movements in production over long periods of time, so if this movement isn't serviceable, you may simply be able to replace it; indeed, that option may even be cheapest.

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    Silly question but are you sure you have the correct cell?
    I only ask as I inadvertently fitted an incorrect one to a U600 once -and it sort of worked but sort of didn’t - that’s when I double checked

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    Silly question but are you sure you have the correct cell?
    I only ask as I inadvertently fitted an incorrect one to a U600 once -and it sort of worked but sort of didn’t - that’s when I double checked
    Hi

    This is the one I fitted. I believe it to be correct........

    BBCU-CIT56 Citizen 295-56 Capacitor

    https://www.watchbattery.co.uk/cgi-b...CU-CIT56.shtml



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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Can't offer any specific advice, but would just suggest that Citizen/Miyota tend to keep the same movements in production over long periods of time, so if this movement isn't serviceable, you may simply be able to replace it; indeed, that option may even be cheapest.
    Not thought of that but something I will look at, thanks

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    Did you complete the all reset followed by zeroing the hands?
    https://www.citizenwatch-global.com/...pdf/e810/e.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    Did you complete the all reset followed by zeroing the hands?
    https://www.citizenwatch-global.com/...pdf/e810/e.pdf
    I've done the reset. The only thing I can zero is the seconds hand though. Sometimes the minute and hour move but as mentioned only in a 2 hour or so window and then they just stop.

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    I left running over the weekend and it looks like the only part moving is the second hand. I suppose a new movement is the next step?

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