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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcangascompany View Post
    We have very little energy storage in this country, over the years this has been run down in the pursuit of increased profits. Buying energy from overseas depends on whether countries decide to continue to sell it to us or keep it for their own people. There simply may not be enough supply to go around, especially in the case of a very cold winter..
    didnt cameron shut down the biggest gas storage plant because it would cost a million to be refurbished?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    What a depressing conversation to be having in 2022 in the fifth largest economy in the world.
    Sadly yes but the current government seem to be even more short sighted than previous ones.

    As to the increased possibility of power cuts there was something on the news today that the national grid are thinking about rebating customers that do not use high drain equipment between the hours of 5?- 8pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Sadly yes but the current government seem to be even more short sighted than previous ones.

    As to the increased possibility of power cuts there was something on the news today that the national grid are thinking about rebating customers that do not use high drain equipment between the hours of 5?- 8pm.
    Yes, maybe at last an incentive to get a smart meter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Yes, maybe at last an incentive to get a smart meter.
    I’ve had four cancelled appointments to have smart meters fitted, each time they call to confirm it’s still okay for fitting the next day and within half an hour I get a text saying the appointments been cancelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    Not to p*** on any parades ITT, and not to single you out because this applies to all the talk of zany apocalyptic power installations, but that particular lump gives me the shudders, it's extremely unlikely to be CE and BS 7671 compliant.

    Remember folks, any permanent mains installation has to be 18th-edition compliant and signed-off by someone qualified to do so, otherwise it is potentially lethal and definitely a wholesale insurance-invalidator.

    Take care folks - Winter Of Discontent II is coming!
    Yeah - that unit looks a bit shonky and introduces ‘uncontrolled automation’ where ‘controlled switching is required.

    I’d be quite happy having a CE/BS compliant MCB that connected in to the main consumer unit, but was locked out - and to do the switching ‘personally’ to bring on a generator with cabling in from the back garden - but NOT for situations where the power is required ‘ten minutes ago’ according to teenagers or wife.

    I’d also have a printed/laminated checklist for energising/de-energising - it ain’t something to ad-lib on, or dilute.

    The backup is for maintaining heat in the house, phones, internet - and anything else is pure luxury.

    BUT - perhaps with more elderly neighbours, you might just be preparing to bail them out???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.Ldn View Post
    I run my shed from a caravan battery and an inverter trickle-charged with a small solar panel. Light loads only obviously. Planning to bring that indoors should the need arise, it would suffice for charging phones, routers, radio’s, etc. Just filled every spare space in the garden with logs for the fire too.

    Not expecting power cuts tbh, but I do remember them in the ‘70’s and I absolutely loved it! Although I was only 5 at the time :)
    How well does the solar panel work in winter?

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    On a more practical level, I’d make sure you have a few decent torches round the house with a stock of batteries, and some portable chargers - I’ve got a couple of Anker ones that will charge an iPhone comfortably 3 or 4 times, plus ancillaries like rechargeable led torches and AirPods on top of that. Cost about £30. There are larger versions that will charge a laptop but they’re about £60 upwards. They’re actually useful to keep in your work bag or the car for emergencies, so even if there are no power cuts this winter they’re not a total waste of money!


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    We were off for 10 days after storm Arwen .

    I would echo much of what has been posted above,

    First purchase was a really good inverter. That together with 3 or 4 good car batteries I had in the garage ran the TV in the kitchen, the WiFi (we are on 4 G) and had a USB outlet to charge various devices. The batteries were charged during the day at my office or in extemis with jump leads from one of the cars.

    A good butane heater along with open coal fire provided warmth

    A Clarke 2.5 kw petrol generator was purchased which would boil a kettle / run a microwave and provide lighting (by my inspection light) to the kitchen. I also have various Makita power tools so had 5 or 6 18v Li-ion batteries all of which could be charged at work and ran 2 Makita torches . Several LED torches were also used around the house .

    We were then off for 5 days after Corrie so used all of above

    Not looking forward to repeating the exercise this winter though

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiglet View Post
    We were off for 10 days after storm Arwen .
    That's actually an interesting point - power cuts due to extreme weather are a distinct possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiglet View Post
    We were off for 10 days after storm Arwen .

    I would echo much of what has been posted above,

    First purchase was a really good inverter. That together with 3 or 4 good car batteries I had in the garage ran the TV in the kitchen, the WiFi (we are on 4 G) and had a USB outlet to charge various devices. The batteries were charged during the day at my office or in extemis with jump leads from one of the cars.

    A good butane heater along with open coal fire provided warmth

    A Clarke 2.5 kw petrol generator was purchased which would boil a kettle / run a microwave and provide lighting (by my inspection light) to the kitchen. I also have various Makita power tools so had 5 or 6 18v Li-ion batteries all of which could be charged at work and ran 2 Makita torches . Several LED torches were also used around the house .

    We were then off for 5 days after Corrie so used all of above

    Not looking forward to repeating the exercise this winter though
    North Yorkshire? Or are you Scotland, or somewhere more rocky?

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    N/E Scotland.

    Loss of power was the least of our worries after Arwen - tree down on dining room roof (still not sorted) 10 trees tore up the 200m 5 foot fence that was our "lockdown 1" project . One tree demolished the shed that was our "lockdown 2" project. One tree came down on my trailer with my single seater inside. 7 trees pulled down the power lines and power pole which ripped the corner off my gable etc etc

    And that was before the fire....

    But nobody was injured

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiglet View Post
    N/E Scotland.

    Loss of power was the least of our worries after Arwen - tree down on dining room roof (still not sorted) 10 trees tore up the 200m 5 foot fence that was our "lockdown 1" project . One tree demolished the shed that was our "lockdown 2" project. One tree came down on my trailer with my single seater inside. 7 trees pulled down the power lines and power pole which ripped the corner off my gable etc etc
    But apart from that, no problems...

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    Apart from the obvious candles,decent torch’s ,power bank and a wind up lantern we have calor gas which we can connect to a two burner camping hob however due to BT now introducing digital phone lines i can no longer connect a simple hand set.
    We suffered power outages many years ago when we shared a sub station with the Royal Veterinary College however what we could be facing this Winter in a First World Country is unacceptable but i will leave it there anything further is for the pit.
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    UK National Grid doubles emergency planning exercise from two to four days amid energy crisis: Experts will discuss rationing electricity during crisis talks

    Welcome back the 3-day week, TV broadcasts end at 9pm, NHS specs, petrol rationing, rolling power-cuts, mountains of rubbish in the streets, the dead left unburied, unions running the country, rampant inflation, civil servants relishing 'managing Britain's decline' and begging to be allowed back into the EU.

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    Power cuts

    Its a bit like living in Florida during the summer months they prepare for the tornadoes by getting generators in plus water my friend that lives there has it all wired in and ready to go he just flips the switch I hope we don't come to that.

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    A friend just mentioned these units: https://uk.ecoflow.com/products/delt...-power-station

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    Quote Originally Posted by threescoops View Post
    A friend just mentioned these units: https://uk.ecoflow.com/products/delt...-power-station
    We had similar in work for back up, really useful piece of kit. Bonus of ita nice and quiet, downside bloody expensive and charging in a power cut might be a pain!

    A few years ago the old man got sick of power cuts so he had their house wired with an extra switch so the house can be plugged into a generator, works like a charm

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    My mate who buys the best of everything has one of these in his caravan
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/BLUETTI-Por...1545606&sr=8-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andym View Post
    We had similar in work for back up, really useful piece of kit. Bonus of ita nice and quiet, downside bloody expensive and charging in a power cut might be a pain!

    A few years ago the old man got sick of power cuts so he had their house wired with an extra switch so the house can be plugged into a generator, works like a charm

    Precisely m8.

    In an extended outage, those power packs need electricity to function, which is the only thing you don't have, in an extended outage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    How do you decide how long a power cut to plan for? Small generators are quite affordable. Buy several now and make a killing gouging later.


    The fridge freezer is an issue if it's more than a few hours, so run down the contents? Generally speaking though, a few LED lamps, led head torch, lots of batteries, phone power pack that takes AA batteries, some books, some canned food and dryvgoods that can be eaten without cooking, and an insane amount of toilet roll.

    Are power cuts likely though?
    They’re an extremely likely part of UK life. I would say they’re an inevitable fixture.


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    Camping Gaz stove, metal kettle, an Aeropress and some good quality ground coffee (or beans and a manual grinder).

    Why would you need anything else?


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    Quote Originally Posted by stiglet View Post
    N/E Scotland.

    Loss of power was the least of our worries after Arwen - tree down on dining room roof (still not sorted) 10 trees tore up the 200m 5 foot fence that was our "lockdown 1" project . One tree demolished the shed that was our "lockdown 2" project. One tree came down on my trailer with my single seater inside. 7 trees pulled down the power lines and power pole which ripped the corner off my gable etc etc

    And that was before the fire....

    But nobody was injured

    Quote Originally Posted by J J Carter View Post
    But apart from that, no problems...

    .. and here we go again - right on top of the n@ffing power lines












    Still - could be in Florida

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    i have had a 2.4kw honda powered generator in the shed for donkeys moons,started it yesterday for the first time in years .put some fresh petrol in it ,started third pull[the first two dummy here had the kill switch in the off position]checked it was charging,all good.hopefully i wont need it,but i know its there just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    I don’t think we will have power cuts this year.

    We have moved from national grid saying 'cannot happen' to 'unlikely' which means good chance of it actually happening:

    British households could lose power for up to three hours at a time this winter if gas supplies run extremely low, National Grid has warned.


    The company said it was an "unlikely" scenario but added that supply interruptions were a possibility if the energy crisis escalated.


    Cuts would probably occur at peak times such as morning or early evening, and customers would be warned in advance.


    But as a "base case" National Grid expects homes will face no problems.


    Customers would be warned in advance about the power cuts, which would occur at peak times, possibly in the morning, or more likely between 4pm and 7pm.


    The cuts would be rotated so not all areas of the country were affected at the same time.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63155827

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    We have moved from national grid saying 'cannot happen' to 'unlikely' which means good chance of it actually happening:



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63155827
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    This, some matches and firewood.

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    Seems that our summer camping kit could come in handy this winter...maybe

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    Households in Britain could be paid to avoid a blackout tomorrow evening after National Grid said it was poised to activate its emergency winter plan for the first time.

    Low temperatures and outages on the nuclear power fleet in France are set to put pressure on energy supplies in Britain, leading the national energy provider to warn that it may need to use its new “demand flexibility service”, a contingency scheme aimed at reducing household consumption when supply is tight.

    As in previous years, National Grid has counted on the French national energy provider, EDF, for supplies over winter — but nearly half of the country’s nuclear reactors, on which France relies for 70 per cent of its energy, are offline.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...rrow-wdb95w58f

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    Having a Tesla Powerwall installed so hopefully that will provide some back up.

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    Ceramic BBQ, gas Ooni and Tilley lamp. Sorted

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    A couple of good down sleeping bags. Read at the weekend the Germans are going nuts over candles, although very, very slim odds they'll have power outages, seems more a lifestyle, lets get back to the romance/simplicity/ purity? of a flame kinda thing...perhaps some similarity with the Danes hygge notion.

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    I've just stocked up on tea-lights, gas for my camping stove, batteries for my torches and radios, charged my power banks and of course toilet rolls. I've got a small gas heater on the way, which uses the same canisters as the stove. You just never know!

    I remember the power cuts in 73 it was an adventure then, now it would just be a PITA.

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    Feel I might be missing out on a jolly, possibly character building, great national adventure. Nah, maybe not.

    Be safe everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    I've just stocked up on tea-lights, gas for my camping stove, batteries for my torches and radios, charged my power banks and of course toilet rolls. I've got a small gas heater on the way, which uses the same canisters as the stove. You just never know!

    I remember the power cuts in 73 it was an adventure then, now it would just be a PITA.
    I did much of the above 2/3 months ago, + oil for hurricane lantern and standard candles, going on this governments past record anything is possible.
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    I have a Poweroak AC50 which has 500Wh of capacity and can output up to 300W at 240v. So it's not enough to run the freezer, but it did stop me having to go into work the other day when we had a local power cut for most of the morning.



    It can run the Broadband router, 2 laptops and 2 monitors all day long and still have spare for lighting.

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    It's tempting to get something like this, but it seems a bit silly. Hope that statement doesn't come back to bite me.



    https://www.screwfix.com/p/impax-im1...tor-240v/843hp



    In sensible mode, a head torch and spare batteries for everyone in the house, and a good selection of books.

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