Reply With QuoteThat is interesting - looks like a so-called true GMT movement.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
That is interesting - looks like a so-called true GMT movement.
It’s about time something like this was released, any idea on cost per unit?
If I were toi do something like this, it wold be a tad under £400.Originally Posted by Sinnlover
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Looks interesting.
If you do it, please make it a 120 click bezel, so that it can still be used as a minute timer as well as a GMT zone bezel (divisible by 60 and 24).
GMT bezels are usually bi-directional and I can only have 48 clicks with a bi-directional. 120 click is uni-directional only.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Don’t make it too big, don’t make it too thick, and provide micro- adjustment on the clasp. Could be a winner, GMT watches don’t appeal to me but they clearly have their fans. At £400 this would be bargain.
Love the idea of a "true" GMT. I tend to agree to not make it too thick (sacrifice a bit of WR for a thinner case and better wearability for a GMT) and my only bit is to consider a 20mm lug instead of 18mm (although definitely not a dealbreaker). Eddie, definitely will be following this. I was very excited when they released the 9075 movement and hope to see it more regularly.
What about an automatic version of the Speedbird quartz GMT?
Interesting. Maybe up the case to 39-40mm? Agree with the 20mm lug and thin case comments. If it sacrifices 10 ATM WR, so be it.
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Whatever it is going to be make sure it is going to be as thin as possible. Thickness is the scourge of today.
I don't know if it's the price or some reason unknown to me but the DREADNOUGHT VOYAGER GMT PRS-21 does not appear to be that popular. It might perhaps be time to rethink the design. Personally, I don't like the wider minute hand and the invisible seconds.
A couple of the things I like about my Voyager are the narrower hour hand and the floating seconds indicator. ;-)
F.T.F.A.
Any chance you could keep it under 12mm thick?
Might be doable by reducing WR to 10bar. Who needs more than that for a traveler watch anyway...
20mm tapering to 18mm at the clasp?
How about a GMT Commander instead, or a proper GMT Expedition Traveller? I do agree that the stock of the Dreadnought Voyager seemed to be in store for a long time (and so did the Speedbird GMT from memory). In fact, both seem to be still in stock......
Personally, I much prefer the GMT scale to be on the dial or chapeter ring, and the bezel to be 0-60, but that's just my preference.
That’s what I’d be wanting
Could be interesting in the Caribbean with a 24h bezel ?
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Now you are talking!
Or perhaps this?
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
One of the two hands (seconds or GMT) should be a different colour...Or perhaps this?
Eddie
Option 1: Red secs, blue GMT (my personal favourite)
Option 2: Silver secs, red GMT (as per Rollie GMT2)
That's much better (I think) than a Baby DN version.
And please keep it no-date, the dial looks just so beautifully clean and symmetrical like that.
I like both hands red, I like the roundel effect on the central pinion.
Are you thinking of both versions, or just one (steel or black bezel)?
Agreed.
So many vintage watches managed to be nice and slim while so many today are like doorstops.
As it happens I agree with you about the roundel effect on the central pinion.
With the 3 hand Traveller Eddie said there are going to be both models so I take it to be the same here. They are so different I wouldn't know which one to pick. I keep changing my mind.
The movement is thicker than the 9015 and even by reducing the water resistance to 200 metres, my manufacturer says it will be 13.1mm thick.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Go as low as you can. It's a traveller not an explorer. In my day proper diver's were 150m.
Those Travellers are rather nice looking, like those.
Dave E
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Yep - that’s the one!
Looks good but it's too much like the Steinhart/Gnomon/Olko offerings in my opinion....the 1655, maybe switch the design up a little with a bi-directional SS bezel and possibly no crown guards and if a date is required, then place it at the 6 o'clock position to help with the dial symmetry or something along those lines.<MRS_DOYLE>
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Miyota has to approve anyone wanting to use this movement, it's not freely available. I've already been approved.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
To be fair - you are the man Eddie!
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Given it's a crude photoshop of an actual 1655, that's not wildly surprising... ;-) Thing is, if Eddie was to do something like this, we all know it would beat other versions hands-down...
I was deliberately conservative knowing tastes here, just losing the cyclops and date - an arguable choice for a GMT, but it certainly looks better IMO. Date-at-6 is a sound idea, mind.
Were I designing for my own tastes, I'd also shorten the lugs, replace the SS bezel with a ceramic one, lose the annoying counterbalance from the seconds-hand, and use a larger, easier-to-grip crown, as per the pic on the right:
Big "No" to a cream dial - far too many of those already
Huge "Yes" to a Polar dial ... I'd make it size 39mm minimum as well, and agree with previous posters on 20mm lugs, and thickness sub 12mm.
Do like the 1655 homage, but I'd like a Polar Explorer II homage even more, and especially if it was 39/40mm.
Good to hear Eddie, and Miyota are a rather conservative company, they only do new (versions) movements if they are absolutely sure they are reliable. A win win situation I’d say.
Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!
Can’t see reliability being a problem, I assume this will be a modified 9015 with an additional hour wheel and the means to set it independently, the movement will no doubt be a tad thicker too.
It is thicker, it's 4.5mm.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
...unless, like me, you like thick watches
A friction bezel would solve all of this!
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It could be a fixed bezel, problem solved!
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I'm just about as wet as I can getOr perhaps this?
Eddie
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With this and the Mission Timer, you must be a gibbering wreck..
Black or Silver?
Here is ostensibly a picture of the Miyota 9075 GMT, as seen in a French Grande Nautic GMT watch by Besançon:
Yes
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If I may just comment, a BIG 24 hour arrow.
I have a not so fond love for the one on my seamaster gmt 50th.
Cheers!
Ps: I'd go with the black bezel with tons of lume
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^^^^
Why do you need lume on bezel? It’s useless.
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