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    Interesting new movement from Miyota



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    That is interesting - looks like a so-called true GMT movement.

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    Itís about time something like this was released, any idea on cost per unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Itís about time something like this was released, any idea on cost per unit?
    If I were toi do something like this, it wold be a tad under £400.



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    Looks interesting.
    If you do it, please make it a 120 click bezel, so that it can still be used as a minute timer as well as a GMT zone bezel (divisible by 60 and 24).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    Looks interesting.
    If you do it, please make it a 120 click bezel, so that it can still be used as a minute timer as well as a GMT zone bezel (divisible by 60 and 24).
    GMT bezels are usually bi-directional and I can only have 48 clicks with a bi-directional. 120 click is uni-directional only.

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    Donít make it too big, donít make it too thick, and provide micro- adjustment on the clasp. Could be a winner, GMT watches donít appeal to me but they clearly have their fans. At £400 this would be bargain.

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    Love the idea of a "true" GMT. I tend to agree to not make it too thick (sacrifice a bit of WR for a thinner case and better wearability for a GMT) and my only bit is to consider a 20mm lug instead of 18mm (although definitely not a dealbreaker). Eddie, definitely will be following this. I was very excited when they released the 9075 movement and hope to see it more regularly.

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    What about an automatic version of the Speedbird quartz GMT?

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    Interesting. Maybe up the case to 39-40mm? Agree with the 20mm lug and thin case comments. If it sacrifices 10 ATM WR, so be it.


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    Whatever it is going to be make sure it is going to be as thin as possible. Thickness is the scourge of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    If I were toi do something like this, it wold be a tad under £400.

    ....

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    I don't know if it's the price or some reason unknown to me but the DREADNOUGHT VOYAGER GMT PRS-21 does not appear to be that popular. It might perhaps be time to rethink the design. Personally, I don't like the wider minute hand and the invisible seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    I don't know if it's the price or some reason unknown to me but the DREADNOUGHT VOYAGER GMT PRS-21 does not appear to be that popular. It might perhaps be time to rethink the design. Personally, I don't like the wider minute hand and the invisible seconds.
    A couple of the things I like about my Voyager are the narrower hour hand and the floating seconds indicator. ;-)

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    Any chance you could keep it under 12mm thick?
    Might be doable by reducing WR to 10bar. Who needs more than that for a traveler watch anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhaykal View Post
    my only bit is to consider a 20mm lug instead of 18mm (although definitely not a dealbreaker). Eddie, definitely will be following this.
    20mm tapering to 18mm at the clasp?

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    How about a GMT Commander instead, or a proper GMT Expedition Traveller? I do agree that the stock of the Dreadnought Voyager seemed to be in store for a long time (and so did the Speedbird GMT from memory). In fact, both seem to be still in stock......
    Personally, I much prefer the GMT scale to be on the dial or chapeter ring, and the bezel to be 0-60, but that's just my preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    How about a GMT Commander instead.
    Thatís what Iíd be wanting

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    Could be interesting in the Caribbean with a 24h bezel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    ... or a proper GMT Expedition Traveller? ......
    Now you are talking!

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    Or perhaps this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Or perhaps this?



    Eddie
    One of the two hands (seconds or GMT) should be a different colour...

    Option 1: Red secs, blue GMT (my personal favourite)

    Option 2: Silver secs, red GMT (as per Rollie GMT2)

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    That's much better (I think) than a Baby DN version.
    And please keep it no-date, the dial looks just so beautifully clean and symmetrical like that.
    I like both hands red, I like the roundel effect on the central pinion.
    Are you thinking of both versions, or just one (steel or black bezel)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Whatever it is going to be make sure it is going to be as thin as possible. Thickness is the scourge of today.


    Agreed.


    So many vintage watches managed to be nice and slim while so many today are like doorstops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweets View Post
    That's much better (I think) than a Baby DN version.
    And please keep it no-date, the dial looks just so beautifully clean and symmetrical like that.
    I like both hands red, I like the roundel effect on the central pinion.
    Are you thinking of both versions, or just one (steel or black bezel)?
    As it happens I agree with you about the roundel effect on the central pinion.

    With the 3 hand Traveller Eddie said there are going to be both models so I take it to be the same here. They are so different I wouldn't know which one to pick. I keep changing my mind.

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    The movement is thicker than the 9015 and even by reducing the water resistance to 200 metres, my manufacturer says it will be 13.1mm thick.

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    Go as low as you can. It's a traveller not an explorer. In my day proper diver's were 150m.

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    Those Travellers are rather nice looking, like those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    <MRS_DOYLE>

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    Yes please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyloves2boogie View Post
    Yes please.


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    Yep - thatís the one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
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    Looks good but it's too much like the Steinhart/Gnomon/Olko offerings in my opinion....the 1655, maybe switch the design up a little with a bi-directional SS bezel and possibly no crown guards and if a date is required, then place it at the 6 o'clock position to help with the dial symmetry or something along those lines.

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    Miyota has to approve anyone wanting to use this movement, it's not freely available. I've already been approved.

    Eddie
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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Miyota has to approve anyone wanting to use this movement, it's not freely available. I've already been approved.

    Eddie
    To be fair - you are the man Eddie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
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    where should I send my money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planet Ocean View Post
    Looks good but it's too much like the Steinhart/Gnomon/Olko offerings in my opinion....the 1655...
    Given it's a crude photoshop of an actual 1655, that's not wildly surprising... ;-) Thing is, if Eddie was to do something like this, we all know it would beat other versions hands-down...

    I was deliberately conservative knowing tastes here, just losing the cyclops and date - an arguable choice for a GMT, but it certainly looks better IMO. Date-at-6 is a sound idea, mind.

    Were I designing for my own tastes, I'd also shorten the lugs, replace the SS bezel with a ceramic one, lose the annoying counterbalance from the seconds-hand, and use a larger, easier-to-grip crown, as per the pic on the right:



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    Big "No" to a cream dial - far too many of those already

    Huge "Yes" to a Polar dial ... I'd make it size 39mm minimum as well, and agree with previous posters on 20mm lugs, and thickness sub 12mm.

    Do like the 1655 homage, but I'd like a Polar Explorer II homage even more, and especially if it was 39/40mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Miyota has to approve anyone wanting to use this movement, it's not freely available. I've already been approved.

    Eddie
    Good to hear Eddie, and Miyota are a rather conservative company, they only do new (versions) movements if they are absolutely sure they are reliable. A win win situation Iíd say.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Canít see reliability being a problem, I assume this will be a modified 9015 with an additional hour wheel and the means to set it independently, the movement will no doubt be a tad thicker too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Canít see reliability being a problem, I assume this will be a modified 9015 with an additional hour wheel and the means to set it independently, the movement will no doubt be a tad thicker too.
    It is thicker, it's 4.5mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Whatever it is going to be make sure it is going to be as thin as possible. Thickness is the scourge of today.
    ...unless, like me, you like thick watches

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    GMT bezels are usually bi-directional and I can only have 48 clicks with a bi-directional. 120 click is uni-directional only.

    Eddie
    A friction bezel would solve all of this!


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    It could be a fixed bezel, problem solved!

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    Interesting new movement from Miyota

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Or perhaps this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by bubi View Post
    I'm just about as wet as I can get

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    With this and the Mission Timer, you must be a gibbering wreck..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubi View Post
    I'm just about as wet as I can get
    Black or Silver?

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    Here is ostensibly a picture of the Miyota 9075 GMT, as seen in a French Grande Nautic GMT watch by BesanÁon:


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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Black or Silver?
    Yes

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    If I may just comment, a BIG 24 hour arrow.
    I have a not so fond love for the one on my seamaster gmt 50th.

    Cheers!

    Ps: I'd go with the black bezel with tons of lume


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    ^^^^
    Why do you need lume on bezel? Itís useless.

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