Agree with this. It's a nice and simple field watch, but as stated up thread, you can have a Commando for 1/10 of the price so.....?Originally Posted by LondonNeil
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I don't think it's conflating points to draw the connection between watch brands which exist to meet the demands of the market choosing to use Sapphire almost exclusively. As for the rest, I have no issue with personal preferences of course.
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Anyone seen any definitive info on whether this bracelet would fit a BB58?
Going to guess no. The clasp on the new BB Pro is 0.2mm different from the BB58. No logical reason for this other than to stop people swapping clasps so I don't know why it would be different on this.
I called an AD yesterday afternoon and picked one up on a bracelet 24 hours later. I’m a big fan of the 1016 (and own one) but feel uncomfortable wearing it regularly. The Ranger is not a bad watch at all but the faux lume lets it down. The dial looks a bit budget under direct light too. I think the printed numerals are a touch too large. The phallus hour hand is divisive but it’s a grower (pun intended). Bracelet and clasp is rather good (thank god the rivets have gone) and the case is rock solid - exactly like the BB58. Would have liked polished flanks though and a polished bezel. It’s a decent watch for the money but doesn’t fire up the loins.
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Also the dial has way too much empty space on it.
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That's a shame. This bracelet/clasp with the BB58 blue... I don't think I could resist that combo and would need to buy both!
Almost worth buying the new model just to try. Case looks very similar.
Anybody who has both do let us know !
Clasp has no effect on whether it would fit the case. Only the end links would affect that.
Ok I have both - will try later and definitively let you know
That would be great. Love the BB58, just not a huge fan of the bracelet and can never get the correct adjustment.
A poster on WUS has just made the swap and the Ranger bracelet first the 58 perfectly!!
Only issue is the link sides are brushed on the Ranger bracelet so would not match the finish on the BB flanks but that wouldn't bother me.
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Ok so Ranger bracelet fits bb58 confirming it’s the same case - tried the ranger bracelet on the pro but it doesn’t work - end links aren’t high enough
That's a graphic illustration of the pro's heft!
Pro on the top
It’s .2.5mm thicker than the ranger but a good portion of that is bubble back so doesn’t show on wrist. Visible case side difference around 1mm
I really do like the look of the new Ranger however, the 39mm size is the killer for me, too much empty space on the dial.....would have been perfect if it has been released in 36mm.
We’re a funny lot - always complaining about too much text on a dial, now complaining about not enough! I am surprised there’s no mention of the cosc certification on the dial though, is that a first for a cosc certified Tudor/Rolex product? - as an aside why is 39mm too big? - a lot of people seem to think the BB58 is too small, but I’ve been wearing mine daily for a couple of months now and it’s perfect on my nearly 9 inch wrists now I’m used to it, it fits the style of the watch imho. Perhaps it’s just because of my wrist size but 36mm watches look a bit odd on most peoples wrists imho
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Why am I now contemplating buying both and selling the ranger head only???
Nonsense, it’s completely fine on the wrist as owners will attest.
I never said it wasn't. Behave.
Exactly this. The only comments I've seen re "heft" aren't from owners.
I've sold Tudors due to heft including 3 of the regular BB but there is no thickness issue (at all) on the BB Pro.
I think you've answered the point better than anyone.
Anyway, scope creep. The ranger is nice.
Same. Looks like the perfect combo. I wonder if it'll be possible to just buy the bracelet for the Ranger on it's own (i.e. if someone buys the strap version, can they get a bracelet later?).
Damn! I have a Pro and was about to ask this!
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I asked this when trying on the Pro because they only had the rubber strap there, they said it would be possible but a long wait so imagine it would be similar.
Does the bracelet hue match the 58 blue or black as the blue has a slightly lighter colour?
Surely they will sell you a bracelet alone. I believe the BB58 bracelet retails at £600
There's a new youtube video featuring the new Ranger from Worn and Wound here: https://youtu.be/_VKFDpkqJqQ
The dude recons the Ranger wears 'smaller than the 58 due to lack of bezel'. I don't get that at all. In my experience slim non diver bezels make a watch wear much larger.
You'd need a ranger first then you'd need to wait for service parts to become available. They won't be expecting any service jobs for a while.
Fully with you there. Definitely the opposite in my experience.
Why would you need a Ranger? I bought a bracelet for an Explorer without having to prove I had the watch. Collected it from Kings Hill.
I agree with you, I recently tried on a superocean 42 with fair ol' bezel on it, and it wears a fair bit smaller to my eyes than the OP41 with a dinner plate dial.
I've ways had to prove it but I've never been to Kings Hill.
Even at St James to get two spare Oysterflex blades to use on my Sub41 I had to show my YM42 and say it was for that.
I will be asking my AD if they can order a ranger bracelet for my 58 at some point in the week.
Usual inconsistent policies I guess. Someone with a Ranger on leather may be needing a bracelet…
Let’s see how that goes. Hopefully they won’t be awkward.
Look forward to an update on this.
Correct there are inconsistencies. I have a watch in with them for service at the moment and asked if I could purchase the original nato and leather. They said only one or the other as it needed to be fitted to the watch on purchase. Very weird.
Can you use the existing bb pro endlinks with the new bracelet?Ok so Ranger bracelet fits bb58 confirming it’s the same case - tried the ranger bracelet on the pro but it doesn’t work - end links aren’t high enough
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What do you mean? The steel colour is different on the black and blue? Surely not!?
There was a video on this awhile back (Bark & Jack I believe). Apparently the blue was marginally lighter. To be honest I just wrote it off as it being a newer watch and assumed a black/blue bought at the same time would be the same, but perhaps there's something more to it.
I own both black and blue 58s. The bracelets are identical.
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Fair enough. I always thought that the blue was lighter steel than the original black 58. Youtuber Bark and Jack first suggested the bracelet colour differences here: https://youtu.be/q6ktDytrQygI own both black and blue 58s. The bracelets are identical.
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I’d agree with that which is why I think the Explorer and mark XI are both classics at 36mm.
But I can see why the larger wrists may prefer 39mm.
Funnily enough I have a Mark18 and 18cm wrists (5.5 cm edge to edge) and the Mark18 wears fine, even with it's slim bezel and 50mm lug to lug height, there's something about the flieger design that works at that size. In stark contrast, the Datejust41 feels far too big for my wrists despite a smaller lug to lug height than the Mark18.
Your theory is probably correct. I guess way to find out is check if the bracelets are the same part numbers which surely they will be. Can’t imagine any business would spend time developing two very slightly different colour of steel variations for these two models.
Should it sell well we are going to see a 36mm version next year or so
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Hmm. If it’s easy to get a Ranger bracelet and I can pick up a BB58, that combo could well be on my horizon very soon.
Do you think you'd be tempted to trade up from the BB36?
I want to like this watch but the lume colour and 39mm size are enough for me not to buy it. I am hoping Tudor upgrade the BB36 Steel like they did the Steel & Gold version with the newer movement and t-clasp on the jubilee bracelet. That’s the watch I am waiting for.
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I think if it was 36mm I'd be buying one.
Not mine, but I did chuckle.
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