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    Wood burner being fitted today

    Over the last few years we have considered a modern efficient wood burner, we have an unused chimney right in the middle of the house, but could never justify it financially, we took the plunge and ordered this one a few months ago, https://www.stovax.com/stove-fire/st...udio-air-edge/

    hopefully we will hardly use the gas central heating this winter and it will turn out to be a good idea.

    We will still be heating water by gas.

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    We are stacking the log store at the moment for the winter , hopefully reduce the oil we currently use

    These log burners really do chuck out the heat

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    I love my logburners and they make a real difference to the gas bill, but only because I don't have to pay for fuel; I get arb waste from tree surgeons and saw/split/season it myself. Lots of labour and 75% is split by hand with a good axe (Fiskars X27 is the best I've found). If I had to pay for wood I suspect the burners would be used waaaay more sparingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longblackcoat View Post
    I love my logburners and they make a real difference to the gas bill, but only because I don't have to pay for fuel; I get arb waste from tree surgeons and saw/split/season it myself. Lots of labour and 75% is split by hand with a good axe (Fiskars X27 is the best I've found). If I had to pay for wood I suspect the burners would be used waaaay more sparingly.
    A concern I have is that it will make the ground floor too warm, it would seem oppressive to me, but my wife would think it's great.

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    When we visit my mum in winter, or spring, late summer and autumn, I can hardly breathe for the heat the wood burner chucks out. I usually end up sitting in the conservatory to escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    A concern I have is that it will make the ground floor too warm, it would seem oppressive to me, but my wife would think it's great.
    That will depend on what amount you burn and what type of fuel you use.

    We've got two log burners and wouldn't be without them, nothing better for cheering up your home on a cold, wet day or evening.



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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    A concern I have is that it will make the ground floor too warm, it would seem oppressive to me, but my wife would think it's great.
    Open the interior doors and the heat will radiate upwards. Also if your chimney is in the middle of the house, the stack will also radiate heat. You will be fine, but you might find yourself having the odd snooze in front of the fire after Sunday Lunch. Enjoy.

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    Nice…im looking forward to it being cold enough to fire mine up properly

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    We have two burners, and would be lost without them too, but be careful not to fit one that’s too big for the room

    The bigger one we have in our living area is a Stovax 7.5kw and would easily make the room too hot if you get too excitable with throwing logs in it. For context the area it heats is our living room 7x6m (and high ceilings) that’s open into a dining area 4x4m that in turn opens into the kitchen 6x5m

    So it’s a fairly big area, but heats it easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    We have two burners, and would be lost without them too, but be careful not to fit one that’s too big for the room

    The bigger one we have in our living area is a Stovax 7.5kw and would easily make the room too hot if you get too excitable with throwing logs in it. For context the area it heats is our living room 7x6m (and high ceilings) that’s open into a dining area 4x4m that in turn opens into the kitchen 6x5m

    So it’s a fairly big area, but heats it easily
    I know the logic. However we have a large fireplace and a small lounge. The ones meant to be for the room size look a joke in the space

    Given it’s off 95% of the time I went for something that worked visually. I can play with the vents to dial it back as required.

    Still the same rating as the smaller ones, but guessing higher output without the need for an air brick.

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    We made the mistake of fitting too large a log burner first time around , not only did it go through logs really quickly but we had to open the windows at times , we corrected it and fitted a much smaller one now

    We had a fully mature sycamore taken down a few years back , I wont live long enough top get through all the logs


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    Had ours fitted a few weeks ago, had a log stored made by an old guy in the village out of reclaimed wood and installed that outside last night. My lad is a stainless steel fabricator and he rattled us up one of these for inside
    Looking forward to the cold nights now


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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    Had ours fitted a few weeks ago, had a log stored made by an old guy in the village out of reclaimed wood and installed that outside last night. My lad is a stainless steel fabricator and he rattled us up one of these for inside
    Looking forward to the cold nights now


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    That’s nice, got a link to it?

    Did your lad knock up the pipe working or the complete kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g40steve View Post
    That’s nice, got a link to it?

    Did your lad knock up the pipe working or the complete kit?
    No sorry, i should have explained. My son made the log store in the corner, the tall stainless frame, the fire and flue are stock.

    Link to the model…….https://www.contura.eu/en-gb/stove-c...0-Style-_-4900
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    Had ours fitted a few weeks ago, had a log stored made by an old guy in the village out of reclaimed wood and installed that outside last night. My lad is a stainless steel fabricator and he rattled us up one of these for inside
    Looking forward to the cold nights now


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    That look just the sort of thing I'm looking for, can I ask where you got it from please? Also roughly price of install.

    EDIT, see the link In the thread, thanks.

    Same as the one we looked at yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by thfccambs View Post
    That look just the sort of thing I'm looking for, can I ask where you got it from please? Also roughly price of install.
    Yeh sure. Its a Contura 810 which sell at around £2000, with the install it was around 4K however due to the set up of our house and the orientation of the 3rd floor the flue had to go up higher. The whole job was done by Corinium Stoves in Cirencester.

    https://www.contura.eu/en-gb/stove-c...0-Style-_-4900

    A good thing about the Contura which is why i went for it is that at vent full open you dont have to leave the door open to help start the fire. Im sure other models are the same but a lot ive used in the past dont seem to have enough draw with just the vents fully open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    Yeh sure. Its a Contura 810 which sell at around £2000, with the install it was around 4K however due to the set up of our house and the orientation of the 3rd floor the flue had to go up higher. The whole job was done by Corinium Stoves in Cirencester.

    https://www.contura.eu/en-gb/stove-c...0-Style-_-4900

    A good thing about the Contura which is why i went for it is that at vent full open you dont have to leave the door open to help start the fire. Im sure other models are the same but a lot ive used in the past dont seem to have enough draw with just the vents fully open.
    Thanks, your looks great. We have someone coming out on the 7th Jan.

    Do you have a link for your flue? I thought about 4k all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thfccambs View Post
    Thanks, your looks great. We have someone coming out on the 7th Jan.

    Do you have a link for your flue? I thought about 4k all in.
    No I don’t, it was just the standard stainless system that they supplied. I’ll see if I can find the invoice and get the part numbers

    Sorry no details just says -outside installation kit including flue which was 1750 plus vat
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    Quote Originally Posted by thfccambs View Post
    Thanks, your looks great. We have someone coming out on the 7th Jan.

    Do you have a link for your flue? I thought about 4k all in.
    Are you having an internal or external flu? If internal id say. 904 904 double skinned SS liner- length can be deceiving as the stack will have twists and turns

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    I'm looking for a trick or an advice. I don't know if I use the correct terms for all parts, but here we go:

    One of our wood burners has its flue (chimney) mainly on the outside of the house. And during cold periods like we have now, the air inside the flue is cold before we light a fire. With this cold air, there's hardly any draft in the flue, so the smoke tends NOT to go up when we start the fire!

    We tried a trick with burning paper to heat up the flue (and to start a draft upwards) but when we close the glass door of the burner, we see that the fire goes out. Opening the door of the burner is a bad, bad idea: smoke gets into the room. When we persist: relighting the fire etc, the air in the flue warms up and the draft starts; the flames become higher and more intense.

    We use the Swiss (Swedish?) method of starting a fire; stacking wood with kindles on top.

    What's your trick or do you have an advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    I'm looking for a trick or an advice. I don't know if I use the correct terms for all parts, but here we go:

    One of our wood burners has its flue (chimney) mainly on the outside of the house. And during cold periods like we have now, the air inside the flue is cold before we light a fire. With this cold air, there's hardly any draft in the flue, so the smoke tends NOT to go up when we start the fire!

    We tried a trick with burning paper to heat up the flue (and to start a draft upwards) but when we close the glass door of the burner, we see that the fire goes out. Opening the door of the burner is a bad, bad idea: smoke gets into the room. When we persist: relighting the fire etc, the air in the flue warms up and the draft starts; the flames become higher and more intense.

    We use the Swiss (Swedish?) method of starting a fire; stacking wood with kindles on top.

    What's your trick or do you have an advice.
    Can’t you use one of the firelighting logs you can buy, they come in a paper bag, you light the bag something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fireglow-In.../dp/B06X6GV6PN

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    I'm looking for a trick or an advice. I don't know if I use the correct terms for all parts, but here we go:

    One of our wood burners has its flue (chimney) mainly on the outside of the house. And during cold periods like we have now, the air inside the flue is cold before we light a fire. With this cold air, there's hardly any draft in the flue, so the smoke tends NOT to go up when we start the fire!

    We tried a trick with burning paper to heat up the flue (and to start a draft upwards) but when we close the glass door of the burner, we see that the fire goes out. Opening the door of the burner is a bad, bad idea: smoke gets into the room. When we persist: relighting the fire etc, the air in the flue warms up and the draft starts; the flames become higher and more intense.

    We use the Swiss (Swedish?) method of starting a fire; stacking wood with kindles on top.

    What's your trick or do you have an advice.
    Ive tried the “top down” method and tbh it simply resulted in a successful fire the same way as conventional does. With ref your question, i build a normal lattice shape construction about 5-6 high, few natural fire lights dropped inside, single log on top but not too big, around the outside i place a few small loose balls of newspaper and on top finely shredded news paper. On top of that i use a nice handful of the recycled cardboard packing which i have loads of. It burns slightly hotter and longer than the newspaper.
    With the door closed and vents fully open it creates a small amount of smoke but as soon as it flames that soon clears.
    October i wasnt bothering warming the flue but the last week or so its needed it.
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    … and a burning fire makes a great Season’s Greetings card as well…

    The Dovre 3 kw burner in my wife’s office




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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by tixntox View Post
    Clocks need setting! :)
    Possibly set to various locations around the world 😀
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    Hate my one, just too many fumes with it. Maybe was set up not quite right

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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Hate my one, just too many fumes with it. Maybe was set up not quite right
    Should be no fumes !

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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Hate my one, just too many fumes with it. Maybe was set up not quite right
    Sounds like it could be an issue with the flue. I would get it checked out as can be dangerous.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Sounds like it could be an issue with the flue. I would get it checked out as can be dangerous.
    Agree i do not get any fumes and i also have the chimney swept every year
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Sounds like it could be an issue with the flue. I would get it checked out as can be dangerous.
    Certainly can be dangerous. We had our log burner running the day after we had the chimney swept, all of a sudden the fire went out after a soot fall, bloody chimney sweep we thought.

    The fire wasn’t actually out and was emitting carbon monoxide for the next six hours! This is how long it took until the alarm triggered two rooms away, we thought we were feeling a little poorly! Believe me you don’t want blood taking from your artery in your wrist it bloody hurts! We were both ok after a few hours on oxygen.

    Lessons learnt are that you must have a CM meter in the same room as the burner, and you must sweep the chimney often!


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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Hate my one, just too many fumes with it. Maybe was set up not quite right
    Are you warming the flue on a cold morning/night before lighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    Are you warming the flue on a cold morning/night before lighting?
    Indeed! That helps to accelerate the 'real' fire. What you use depends on the length of the flue. In our case(s) a few 'dots' of paper do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xellos99 View Post
    Hate my one, just too many fumes with it. Maybe was set up not quite right
    Do you own a house with a mechanic ventilation system? That will produce a low pressure system in the house, basically 'sucking' fumes from the burner into the house instead of through the flue. My neighbour experienced that when he started living in his state-of-the-art house with an AGA cooker!

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    Clocks need setting! :)
    i have times where i wind them religiously, other times i loose the will, I have twelve in total so it's a bit of a chore

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    i too have a Stovax in my lounge. Its the smallest model as it does not require a fire brick in the room.
    It only gets lit for Christmas and New Year as the GSHP is running 24/7. It looks great and you have to strip to your pants after its been on for a while!
    Slowly burning through Birch logs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post


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    Looks great. When is the inaugural lighting?

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    Wood burner being fitted today

    We have two. One in the lounge (Morso) and this lovely corner Scan 80-1 which was fitted last year. It heats our kitchen and dinning area easily being 6w-9w.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilgoe1972 View Post
    We have two. One in the lounge (Morso) and this lovely corner Scan 80-1 which was fitted last year. It heats our kitchen and dinning area easily being 6w-9w.



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    Absolutely stunning, I miss my log burner so much. Everything about it.


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    I adore my contura 5kw log burner, it’s very efficient and when you look at the flu externally there is only a shimmer of heat and no foul smoke. I am lucky in knowing a few guys who fell trees on the side. But I like to burn Birch to pre-heat the flu to ensure a good draw, then Ash as a favourite or Oak as second choice. I use a moisture meter to check my wood is well seasoned and low enough moisture content. Even if it is a bit old fashioned and deemed to be dirty I consider I offset it a little with the solar and heat pumps, so elsewhere I am pretty green. Even running an EV car, but the log burner has to stay, it is that good. Oh, and the roasted chestnuts at Christmas or toasted marshmallows are great on it too. Or just keeping your mug of tea hot is great too.

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    Wood burner being fitted today

    Having been around wood stoves for years and as a kid they can be temperamental buggers. You can have all kinds of issues from something as simple as not getting the flue hot enough to not making sure the kindling is well established before throwing on the fuel. I found on the one we use in Cornwall when we visit that if you don’t give the fire time to establish and create a nice grey ash on the first couple of logs it can easily overwhelm it when you put more in
    My wife normally crumples up a bit of paper throws on 2 sticks of kindling and expects to be warming her toes in 20 minutes… unless you’re really lucky that hardly happens. Knowing when to close the fire down is also key… too early generally sees it dying


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    Thermometer on the flue helps to inform you when to close the venting down as it is hot enough.

    Would love one in my office but it won’t work location wise without a weird and ugly flu in a strange place externally.

    Will have to work in the lounge when it cools down a bit. Another contura fan here.

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    Been smelling wood burners on the street recently. Absolutely beautiful smell and I think we'll cave at some point. Shame to rip out what I think is the original fireplace though.

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    Yes that is nice , but if you just want some warmth and a great look keep your open fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Been smelling wood burners on the street recently. Absolutely beautiful smell and I think we'll cave at some point. Shame to rip out what I think is the original fireplace though.
    Why rip it out just use it as it was intended for a fire? make sure your chimney is swept and enjoy a beautiful fireplace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Been smelling wood burners on the street recently. Absolutely beautiful smell and I think we'll cave at some point. Shame to rip out what I think is the original fireplace though.
    The white surround doesn’t look original . Is it metal or timber? If it’s not original then that would lead me to think that the insert could be a reproduction too. The hearth looks original though. At least you have a chimney so a quick rip out of the insert and the rubble infill behind it and then a fire board lining and you could easily get a smaller 5kw wood burner in there subject to the chimney getting swept and checked that it’s still open. Drop a liner down the chimney and off you go:)
    I’m suprised that you are allowed to use that in London after S khan crapped all over wood burners and open fires about 4 years ago.
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    I bought a log burner fan to spread the heat of the burner through my workshop/barn. I have a free-standing stove/burner and I want more heat where I have my workbench. That part of of the barn hyas a lower roof. A fan can blow the heat in the right direction and the lower roof will help to heat that area up.

    I bought an 'el cheapo' machine to try it out. A 'test run' yesterday with some pieces of wood in the burner. In short: it works absolutely fantastic! Now I know that it works, so in due time, the cheap fan will be replaced in due time for something that's absolutely more interesting: a Vulcan Stove Fan. That's a device that works with a Sterling engine! https://www.stirlingengine.co.uk/d.a...VULCANSTOVEFAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by thieuster View Post
    I bought a log burner fan to spread the heat of the burner through my workshop/barn. I have a free-standing stove/burner and I want more heat where I have my workbench. That part of of the barn hyas a lower roof. A fan can blow the heat in the right direction and the lower roof will help to heat that area up.

    I bought an 'el cheapo' machine to try it out. A 'test run' yesterday with some pieces of wood in the burner. In short: it works absolutely fantastic! Now I know that it works, so in due time, the cheap fan will be replaced in due time for something that's absolutely more interesting: a Vulcan Stove Fan. That's a device that works with a Sterling engine! https://www.stirlingengine.co.uk/d.a...VULCANSTOVEFAN


    oo that fan looks really good!, pricey and out of stock but they will email me when its back in stock, thanks for the link!

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