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    Which sports competitors have to be the fittest overall ?

    Tennis players ?

    Footballers for 90 mins ?

    Rugby players for 80 mins ?

    Swimmers ?

    Cricketers ?

    Golfers ?

    Marathon runners ?

    Pretty much at the top of the list for me it must be the cyclists who compete in the likes of the Tour de France etc, grueling day after day.

    What do you think ?

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    Darts players…. Definitely darts players

    Or maybe triathletes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Darts players…. Definitely darts players

    Or maybe triathletes
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    Cyclists are fit but in a fairly linear way, particularly road cyclists and within that climbers will sometimes struggle to walk around for long off the bike.

    All-round functional fitness and a balance between strength and cardio I would say boxers come out on top.

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    I think the question is "fit for what?" What's the definition of fitness?

    The top echelon in every sport are "fit" for that sport. But watch a top runner try to cycle, a cyclist try to run, a footballer try to row, a rower try to play 90 minutes football, and you realise there's no such thing as "fitness."

    I suppose the answer, by definition, has to be Crossfit. That's a sport set up to test all-round fitness.
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    Cross-country skiiers followed by cyclists imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Boxers. It's the hardest game.
    Or MMA. 5 x 5 minute rounds must be a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Boxers. It's the hardest game.
    We turned up for a gym lesson at school one afternoon in 1974 expecting the usual 5 a side game. Before us was a pre prepared boxing ring. We were paired off by weight and height and pitched into two x 2 minute rounds to knock hell out of each other. A youth full of cross country running, football, cricket, cycling, tennis and badminton could not prepare me for those 4 minutes. I have never known something to drain your battery so much in such a short space of time. Exhausting.
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    Back in the day Brian Jacks the Judo competitor was hugely impressive on Superstars against a range of athletes from different disciplines.
    An early inspiration for me to get into Judo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trident-7 View Post
    Cross-country skiiers followed by cyclists imho
    I'd pay good money to watch that event!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    I'd pay good money to watch that event!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchmanuk4 View Post
    Cyclists are fit but in a fairly linear way, particularly road cyclists and within that climbers will sometimes struggle to walk around for long off the bike.

    All-round functional fitness and a balance between strength and cardio I would say boxers come out on top.
    I would agree. This is intense cardio.


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    Boxing, to move, dodge and weave around that ring for 12x3 rounds while taking blows and trying to also punch with weighted gloves is something that hits all parts of the body.

    Put it this way, a pro Boxer would find it easier to complete a triathlon rather than a triathlete go 12 rounds..

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    I would think that some of the top cross fitters must be right up there? The use strength, fitness, technique and don’t know what they are going to have compete in for any competition.

    Also, in the list above, saying swimming and 200 free? What about 200Fly, what about all the other events that are done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Boxing, to move, dodge and weave around that ring for 12x3 rounds while taking blows and trying to also punch with weighted gloves is something that hits all parts of the body.

    Put it this way, a pro Boxer would find it easier to complete a triathlon rather than a triathlete go 12 rounds..
    For that to be true, the pro boxer would have to finish the triathlon in a similar time to the pro triathlete. Absolutely no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trident-7 View Post
    For that to be true, the pro boxer would have to finish the triathlon in a similar time to the pro triathlete. Absolutely no chance.
    Its all relative I suppose, what I was saying is that a pro boxer properly trained would have a good chance of finishing a triathlon in a reasonable time whereas I dont think a triathlete would get to 12 rounds, not because of being knocked out but pure blowing out their ass.

    That said unless we actually put these disciplines to the test then its all just hearsay!

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    Impossible question to answer really. Are we comparing the very top sportmen/women in each discipline or the average professional (or even amateurs) though imagine many people here will side with their favourite sport.

    Tour cyclists and marathon runners have endurance but don't think that equates to all round fitness. Certainly would rule out rugby players as they can often hide behind bulk and size. Does a golfer have to be really fit?

    I'd say tennis player must be up there to be able to play, possibly for several hours, at the highest level. Unlike boxers, rugby players, swimmers they have a physique more like the average person too.

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    I would say Triathletes after all a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike ride then a Marathon is enough to blow any single sports people away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    I would say Triathletes after all a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike ride then a Marathon is enough to blow any single sports people away.
    [pedant] That’s not a triathlon, that’s Ultraman [/pedant]

    An Olympic triathlon is 1.5km/40km/10km.

    Anyone who completes an Ultraman is a nutter. End of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    [pedant] That’s not a triathlon, that’s Ultraman [/pedant]

    An Olympic triathlon is 1.5km/40km/10km.

    Anyone who completes an Ultraman is a nutter. End of.
    You’d need to work on your pedantry ;-). That is an Ironman.

    Ultraman is a three-day, 515 km (320 mile) multisport race modelled on the one held annually on the Big Island of Hawaii which is now called the Ultraman World Championship.

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    To address the OPs questions I guess the answer is it depends.

    The cross country skiers and pro cyclists have great endurance but boxers have great short term power.

    Maybe we should ask which elite sports people look to have the overall best condition?

    What do you get if to blend a pro cyclist with a boxer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    You’d need to work on your pedantry ;-). That is an Ironman.
    Doh. 🤦🏻*♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo73 View Post
    [pedant] That’s not a triathlon, that’s Ultraman [/pedant]

    An Olympic triathlon is 1.5km/40km/10km.

    Anyone who completes an Ultraman is a nutter. End of.
    Those are the distances for Ironman actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    You’d need to work on your pedantry ;-). That is an Ironman.

    Ultraman is a three-day, 515 km (320 mile) multisport race modelled on the one held annually on the Big Island of Hawaii which is now called the Ultraman World Championship.
    Beat me to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Dead right Stef
    I know pound for pound they are the strongest competitors. Just seems they have the range of power, speed, agility and endurance that would be needed to do well in most activities.

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    Stupid question really because they all do.

    At the top of any sport, the margins between winning and losing are minuscule. The only way to be at the top is to be at your peak of physical fitness. Some athletes can maintain that peak over longer periods and so are more successful but unless you are at a higher level than your competitors on any given day, you are not going to win.

    Of course different sports require different attributes, whether that be strength, speed, endurance, accuracy (darts, snooker etc) or even mental agility.

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    Was this not what Superstars was meant to sort out
    Brian Jacks the Judo guy seemed to come out on top.


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    Define fittest. Cardiovascular fitness? Strength? Endurance? Explosive power?


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    As most are saying, you have to train for the sport in mind.

    Whilst there are a lot of training activities that cross over, focus is key.

    For me fitness is a balance between looking good, being physically strong, good stamina and being explosive. Sprinters, gymnastics, swimmers, boxers and dancers.

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    None of the listed, but definitely gymnasts for me.

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    Apparently as a overall mixture of endurance, speed and strength these are the top 20.

    The top 3 are 1. Water Polo, 2. Rugby 7s 3. American Football (Running Backs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Apparently as a overall mixture of endurance, speed and strength these are the top 20.

    The top 3 are 1. Water Polo, 2. Rugby 7s 3. American Football (Running Backs)
    Who concocted that lot? F1 drivers are the Fittest, strongest and fastest but are not even on the list.

    How many sports can you name where the participants have to go 90-100% for up to two hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    Who concocted that lot? F1 drivers are the Fittest, strongest and fastest but are not even on the list.

    How many sports can you name where the participants have to go 90-100% for up to two hours
    Intercourse?

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    Intercourse?
    Show off.

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    I would classify fitness as resting heart rate. The more fit the more efficient the body at using oxygen and therefore the lower heart rate. Cross county skiers followed by cyclists here. I think resting heart rates are around low 30’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    Intercourse?
    30 second bursts spread over five years don't really count :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    Who concocted that lot? F1 drivers are the Fittest, strongest and fastest but are not even on the list.

    How many sports can you name where the participants have to go 90-100% for up to two hours
    American football??
    And to not even have cyclists and triathletes at the top of the list??? What a load of crap.
    F1 drivers are fit but would be bottom third in a 4-6hour stage of a road race (let alone a 3 week tour) or a triathlon.

    Plenty of F1 drivers cycle. Paris-Roubaix would finish them off, even cyclists have that down as an achievement just to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmith View Post
    American football??
    And to not even have cyclists and triathletes at the top of the list??? What a load of crap.
    F1 drivers are fit but would be bottom third in a 4-6hour stage of a road race (let alone a 3 week tour) or a triathlon.

    Plenty of F1 drivers cycle. Paris-Roubaix would finish them off, even cyclists have that down as an achievement just to finish.
    American football? A game lasts 60 minutes and with the various teams players aren't active for that, let alone 90-100% for 2 hours.

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    During the 21 stages of the Tour de France, the average competitor will burn 120,000 calories.

    I don’t think there are many sports where so much energy is spent in a single event.

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    Calling BS on table tennis > basketball

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    Darts for the mental fitness. Playing in front of drunken loud 10-15k crowd cannot be easy.

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    That table is complete BS, not just because of the table tennis. Whoever made that table up never did a hard sport in their life.

    I'd say competitive rowing has to be near the top. Also, although it's not a sport, ballet dancing is intense, gruelling hell. Think of the men who have to constantly lift and throw girls up in the air, the strength, muscle endurance and flexibility needed as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Calling BS on table tennis > basketball

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