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    “Million Pound Pawn” muppetry

    “The second hand on this Rolex Oysterquartz ticks rather than sweeps, so I think it might be fake.” Strike One.

    Then he callled his “expert” pal, who told him the Oysterquartz was the only Rolex which ticked like that. Tru-Beat, chum ? Strike Two.

    Anyone see it? Despite the ignorance of its examiner, the OQ was a nice full set watch with pyramid trim.

    The show is something of a mockery.

    Many of us in the trade refused to take part in it and I’m tempted to share some of my blunt emails during their attempts to get me to participate…..
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 16th June 2022 at 23:13.

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    Yeah, saw it, my missus thought I was sad that on just
    the box I could tell that it was a gold rolex inside.
    I did immediately call the guy a knob based on his
    " expert ability"

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    I saw it. I'm sure his expert mate also said it has a tick because it was a special movement designed by Rolex.

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    I don’t watch these shows anymore, it always seemed that the sellers were botox filled women that earned all their property by having sex with rich men and needed to sell to either fund more surgery or launch a pop career. In reality I imagine that the aim was more to appear on television to boost their social media accounts.
    I walked through the City for the first time in a while last week and noticed that the guy from the old Posh Pawn show now has a store on Gracechurch Street. Lovely guy, if you can get over his criminal conviction for assaulting the mother of his children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    “The second hand on this Rolex Oysterquartz ticks rather than sweeps, so I think it might be fake.”
    ... but this is (partly) the reason why I own one.

    Most non-WIS wouldn't know it's pretty special





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    I watched it, was shocked by his view on the non sweeping second hand on an oyster quartz as maybe an indication that it maybe fake.

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    Million pound wallopers. Skin crawled, heckles up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post

    Many of us in the trade refused to take part in it and I’m tempted to share some of my blunt emails during their attempts to get me to participate…..
    Do it, do it........

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Do it, do it........
    In one of a number of approaches over an extended period, Senior Producer Warren Atkins emailed me on 24th March 2021 (after the first series had aired), to which I responded :

    "Dear Mr. Atkins,

    Thankyou for your email. We are well and trust that you may say likewise.

    We watched the first series in horror.

    Could you identify a single pawnbroking transaction that took place in any of the episodes?

    Why did a pawnbroker smash a watch up with a hammer in front of the client rather than disassemble it? So much had the smell of created-for-television sensationalism with stooge customers and manufactured situations, allowing individuals to promote their chauffeur business or similar. Why on earth would anyone approach a pawnbroker to sell their car, helicopter or artwork, rather than going directly to car, aircraft or art dealers? As for the tag-line on every episode’s opening credits being that lady declaring (entirely in conflict with the denouement of her story) “Ponebrokas? Wooden trust ‘em as far as I could frow ‘em!”……..well, thankyou for the invitation but mine are professional companies providing high value pawnbroking and don’t need such misleading representation. “Aspirational and informative” is not the tone we perceived.

    A “factual documentary” might indeed have appealed, but instead the fears I expressed when you first asked me about appearing were entirely realised.

    If you wanted a Rolex specialist, I was unquestionably your man. A lazy misrepresentation of “pawnbroking” which perpetuates the tv fiction of same, however, is not of interest.

    Yours sincerely..."

    Answer came there none.

    On 27th May 2021 Assistant Producer Joey Tayloy approached me again. I directed him to the previous correspondence and encouraged a response from either.

    Answer came there none.
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 17th June 2022 at 00:05.

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    ^^^ LOL

    It seems that like so much 'reality' tv, it is far, far from reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danstone View Post
    I don’t watch these shows anymore, it always seemed that the sellers were botox filled women that earned all their property by having sex with rich men and needed to sell to either fund more surgery or launch a pop career. In reality I imagine that the aim was more to appear on television to boost their social media accounts.
    Yes, indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post

    A “factual documentary” might indeed have appealed, but instead the fears I expressed when you first asked me about appearing were entirely realised.

    Answer came there none.
    You have to wonder why they bothered making the approach. They know they are peddling fictional entertainment that is ruinous for the reputation of those involved. Unless they think pawnbrokers are mugs who will regard getting their faces on TV in return for trashing their business a good trade?


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    Quote Originally Posted by NickRed71 View Post
    fictional entertainment that is ruinous for the reputation of those involved. Unless they think pawnbrokers are mugs who will regard getting their faces on TV in return for trashing their business a good trade?
    It seems to me that it depends on the sort of business.

    It obviously wouldn't suit Haywood's businesses but it looks to me like the sorts of businesses that did appear will do just fine out of it.

    A certain type of customer will not be put off. Think of the kind of people who would willingly appear on 'Embarrassing Bodies', 'Snog Marry Avoid?' or Jeremy Kyle.

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    Beautiful response, well done.

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    The trailer for the next episode showed a guy with a tray full of SS Rolex getting a valuation, let’s hope he does not get his pants pulled down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g40steve View Post
    The trailer for the next episode showed a guy with a tray full of SS Rolex getting a valuation, let’s hope he does not get his pants pulled down.
    Let's hope it's not Florin Filip or Tudor-Andrei Paunescu with a bag of fakes.

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    “That ring cost me 7 grand so I won’t let it go for less than I paid”

    “I can offer you 4,800 for the ring…?”

    “You got ya self a deal sweetheart”




    ffs…

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Wall View Post
    “That ring cost me 7 grand so I won’t let it go for less than I paid”

    “I can offer you 4,800 for the ring…?”

    “You got ya self a deal sweetheart”




    ffs…
    My wife commented exactly the same.

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    Because of our religious beliefs we can't charge interest,so we'll buy it off you for X amount today and sell it back to you for a higher amount after a month.

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    Proper car crash tv. When the old lady said she was hoping for 3-4K for the Rolex I did think you better not rip her off.

    “Oh it’s ticking I better check this out”

    For god sake.


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    I can't watch any of those shows, they are just cringeworthy.

    I guess it's good exposure for some dealers but as always anything that purports to be a "reality" show is anything but.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    In one of a number of approaches over an extended period, Senior Producer Warren Atkins emailed me on 24th March 2021 (after the first series had aired), to which I responded :

    "Dear Mr. Atkins,

    Thankyou for your email. We are well and trust that you may say likewise.

    We watched the first series in horror.

    Could you identify a single pawnbroking transaction that took place in any of the episodes?

    Why did a pawnbroker smash a watch up with a hammer in front of the client rather than disassemble it? So much had the smell of created-for-television sensationalism with stooge customers and manufactured situations, allowing individuals to promote their chauffeur business or similar. Why on earth would anyone approach a pawnbroker to sell their car, helicopter or artwork, rather than going directly to car, aircraft or art dealers? As for the tag-line on every episode’s opening credits being that lady declaring (entirely in conflict with the denouement of her story) “Ponebrokas? Wooden trust ‘em as far as I could frow ‘em!”……..well, thankyou for the invitation but mine are professional companies providing high value pawnbroking and don’t need such misleading representation. “Aspirational and informative” is not the tone we perceived.

    A “factual documentary” might indeed have appealed, but instead the fears I expressed when you first asked me about appearing were entirely realised.

    If you wanted a Rolex specialist, I was unquestionably your man. A lazy misrepresentation of “pawnbroking” which perpetuates the tv fiction of same, however, is not of interest.

    Yours sincerely..."

    Answer came there none.

    On 27th May 2021 Assistant Producer Joey Tayloy approached me again. I directed him to the previous correspondence and encouraged a response from either.

    Answer came there none.
    Very eloquently put, not surprised they never came back with any sort of response.

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    Never watched any and now won’t waste any precious time doing so in future, thanks for the advice. Loved the email.

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