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Thread: Rolex <cough> 116610 with Chrono24 authenticity guarantee.....

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    Rolex <cough> 116610 with Chrono24 authenticity guarantee.....

    I'd love to see the "original papers" with this one :

    https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol...id23179923.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    I'd love to see the "original papers" with this one :

    https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/rol...id23179923.htm
    136610 maybe? Maxi case, non maxi dial… can’t tell if it’s a ceramic bezel.


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    What's wrong with it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uktotty View Post
    What's wrong with it ?

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    Looks to be a 5 digit dial in a 6 digit case


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    Bezel.
    Non-maxi dial.
    Blank rehaut.

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    The 3rd picture is a different dial (tritium) to the 1st two as well.

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    Are chrono24 not obliged to take suspicious listings like this off their market? Doesn’t that happen with Ebay?


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    I think the error may be in the images and not the watch, could be an upload error but worth highlighting as `I am sure there’s no intention to deceive.
    Last edited by 100thmonkey; 21st April 2022 at 20:13.
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    The clasp also looks wrong, too.

    The dealer is Browns in Harrogate, just down the road from me.

    They do have some questionable stock. There’s a blue dial Datejust 36mm they are trying to flog for £7k that looks to be a redial. The S's look wonky, and the T Swiss W at the bottom looks all over the place.

    https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-dat...id18965217.htm

    From what I gather, they don’t have the best reputation.

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    Worrying that a bricks and mortar store would either not be upfront about the obvious very significant issues or not be aware of the issues.

    Looks like a pre-Basel photoshop guess fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noidea View Post
    The 3rd picture is a different dial (tritium) to the 1st two as well.
    And the fourth (side profile) is of a ceramic bezel insert.

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    Someone give them a call today and report back.
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    In an effort to get it removed ASAP I sent the company a message last night and reported it to Chrono24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    In an effort to get it removed ASAP I sent the company a message last night and reported it to Chrono24.
    This seems laudable to me


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    I wonder how many perspective purchasers would notice, I don't thick I would have at first glance

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    The photos look like they've been heavily filtered or converted to B&W and I'd automatically distrust any seller who only provides blurry or black and white photographs, especially (though not in this case) of older Tritium dialled watches. Maybe lazy and they're using stock photos for all sales or more likely reason is to hide something in my view.

    Not only that but the pictures do not match the condiiton stated (they look far better)

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianw View Post
    I wonder how many perspective purchasers would notice, I don't thick I would have at first glance
    Having seen what I have and been involved in the cases that I have over the last few years, I am certain that many hundreds if not several thousand people in the UK have in ignorance paid "full money" for and continue to wear fake examples of just this model, the 116610. Slowly these fakes will be revealed for what they are, when presented to the most experienced dealers or watchmakers. Many of the fakes will sail under the radar for longer, as there remains too much of the jewellery and watch trade that cannot spot them. Some buyers (almost certainly those who bought privately) will have lost their money, others will have disputes with their sellers and varying degrees of success in recovering it.

    Sadly, the baddies have made a pile and this encourages them to redouble their efforts.
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    It seems to have been removed from both Chrono24 and the dealer's website.

    No communication from either yet....

    UPDATE :

    Email received @ 12:59 from Chrono24 saying "We have deactivated the ad and have informed the dealer about this issue."

    Courteous WhatsApp reply from shop @ 16:44 confirming removed from their website and Director being contacted.

    Fair enough.
    Last edited by Haywood_Milton; 22nd April 2022 at 17:11.

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    Images for those late to the party :



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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Having seen what I have and been involved in the cases that I have over the last few years, I am certain that many hundreds if not several thousand people in the UK have in ignorance paid "full money" for and continue to wear fake examples of just this model, the 116610. Slowly these fakes will be revealed for what they are, when presented to the most experienced dealers or watchmakers. Many of the fakes will sail under the radar for longer, as there remains too much of the jewellery and watch trade that cannot spot them. Some buyers (almost certainly those who bought privately) will have lost their money, others will have disputes with their sellers and varying degrees of success in recovering it.

    Sadly, the baddies have made a pile and this encourages them to redouble their efforts.
    The exact reason I have never bought used so far, I know I would be too dim to spot an obvious sign and your shop is a bit far for me !

    Good work on getting this ad removed.

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    Haywood, how dare you have TRF bookmarked ahead of TZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Haywood, how dare you have TRF bookmarked ahead of TZ
    It was all I could do to close the dwarf porn tab before I took the screen-shot.

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