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    Let's X-ray some watches....

    The University of Manchester has one of the most capable X-ray imaging capability anywhere in the world (http://www.mxif.manchester.ac.uk), and as a public-outreach type project to coincide with the Summer solstice we thought it would be a bit of fun to X-ray some old watches and random timepieces. Mike Wood was happy to help out, and brought some random bits and bobs!



    So we did a bit of radiography





    Any guesses as to the watch? (Notice the little crown at the top!)

    My Speedmaster met some new friends too...



    I confess to being quite smitten by this!



    But it wasn't all watches.



    My colleague who did the scanning put all the images into a video, enjoy:



    And here are a few higher res images (if used elsewhere please acknowledge The University of Manchester)







    Many thanks to Dr. Tristan Lowe for doing the experimental work, and to Andrew Poole and Mike Wood for supplying the watches (and it turns out Mike is a practical X-ray scientist!)
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    That's brilliant!!

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    Very cool

    Very cool indeed!


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    Fantastic, & thanks for posting.

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    Fascinating images!

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    Woah, this is superb. Great idea.

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    This is awesome! Incredible images.


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    That first high res pic is the nuts!

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    Interesting! Could even be useful for monitoring the behaviour of the mainspring as it unwinds........they don’t always do what we’d like then to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    That first high res pic is the nuts!
    That’s my favourite image too, a WW2 era WWW watch, it came out really well.

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    Very interesting, I wonder what a Breitling aerospace would look like?

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    I have just found this thread, very intresting.
    I notice no fixed lug bars on the 5517???

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    The level of details is amazing ... a CAT scan would probably also be a cool thing to see :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalone View Post
    Very interesting, I wonder what a Breitling aerospace would look like?
    We could find out if you like mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    I have just found this thread, very intresting.
    I notice no fixed lug bars on the 5517???
    It has fixed spring bars, strange that they don’t show in the video...perhaps an artefact of the image enhancement. Here is a non-polished image showing the fixed bars:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrvoje View Post
    The level of details is amazing ... a CAT scan would probably also be a cool thing to see :)
    Yes we could have done some CT tomography...but that gets rather expensive! I agree it would be cool to see. There are some great CT videos on the HMXF website.

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    I don't know how I missed this when first posted, but thank you for a unique thread. Strange but true, while it's interesting to see the x-rays of such iconic watches, the image that struck me most was seeing that spring inside the spring bar on the Daytona. We can see inside a watch by opening the case back, but who opens a spring bar?

    Great stuff!

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    What was the lume like afterwards?

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    Amazing pictures! Thank you for posting.

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    Coincidently, a pal of mine sent me some x rays of his watch yesterday, they have a non destructive testing facility at his work- guess he watch?
    Last edited by JasonM; 8th September 2018 at 09:02.
    Cheers..
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    I ran an ancient X-ray set in a research setting back in the 80s - really impressed with the definition you have got with the casebacks in place! I’d have had to burn through about 20 plates trial and error to get the contrast you have. It would have taken a whole day!


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    Kirk doesn't have anything else to do at work!

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    Wow, that is very cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    Kirk doesn't have anything else to do at work!
    Oi! This was a crucial scientific experiment, I’ll have you know

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    Can anybody give me more information about this process?

    Hi All,

    I am just reading this thread with great interest although given that a few years have passed I don't know who would be active still to answer my question(s) . . . .

    I am very interested in being able to X-Ray watches in high detail as part of an authentication method, I am looking into and wondering whether anybody on this thread can advice on the best types of x-Ray machine for this and how best to obtain detail (given size of watches need a good level of definition)

    Also interested to know about "portability" i.e. I would like to be able to transport the X-Ray equipment.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superleggera5 View Post
    Hi All,

    I am just reading this thread with great interest although given that a few years have passed I don't know who would be active still to answer my question(s) . . . .

    I am very interested in being able to X-Ray watches in high detail as part of an authentication method, I am looking into and wondering whether anybody on this thread can advice on the best types of x-Ray machine for this and how best to obtain detail (given size of watches need a good level of definition)

    Also interested to know about "portability" i.e. I would like to be able to transport the X-Ray equipment.

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    Hello, and welcome to the forum. I’ve got no idea re: your questions (!), but I could possibly find someone willing to do some consultancy work if your interest is connected to a business need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk280 View Post
    Hello, and welcome to the forum. I’ve got no idea re: your questions (!), but I could possibly find someone willing to do some consultancy work if your interest is connected to a business need.
    Hi Kirk280,

    Thank you for welcoming me and also for your reply, it is a business need I have in mind but only "potential", like many business ideas they don't know they have a need until it is possible but I am not so sure about this one, nevertheless it does not stop me from pursuing the idea for the moment at least until I understand what equipment would be best for what I have in mind and the potential cost, which of course may rule it out for the moment, but as technology changes price points change too . . . . .

    Any how, if you can put me in contact with someone that could advise I would appreciate that.

    Kind Regards
    S5

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    Hi

    The best radiography method for this will be pulsed x-ray, highly portable, relatively safe, battery powered - xr150 would do the job.

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