closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Page 21 of 27 FirstFirst ... 111920212223 ... LastLast
Results 1,001 to 1,050 of 1316

Thread: Omega x Swatch

  1. #1001
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    550
    I can imagine the eBay listings being revised even as we speak.

    RARE DISCONTINUED MODEL

  2. #1002
    Grand Master Neil.C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    SE England
    Posts
    26,046
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Neptune to be suspended/discontinued. Allegedly.

    Take this for what it is worth.

    From Reddit. A guy (in the USA I think) had the pusher fall out of his Neptune. He spoke to Swatch about warranty replacement: They told him that as the Neptune is one of the colours that has "color bleeding through", they 're not going to produce it any more. They don't keep spare parts. Although he doesn't state it explicitly, the implication is that he cannot have a replacement Neptune as a warranty replacement!

    (As an aside, the colour of the Neptune doesn't look as nice as in the render on the Swatch site in my opinion).


    Pic and link:-

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/com...fective_issue/

    (Bold added by me)

    Close up, it does look like a nasty cheap thing.

    Swatch group must be laughing their heads off.
    Cheers,
    Neil.

    My Speedmaster website:

    http://www.freewebs.com/neil271052

  3. #1003
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Good grief, it seems there are even fakes of the Moonswatch already.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/com...mega_question/

    https://www.fratellowatches.com/fake...-moonswatches/

  4. #1004
    Grand Master abraxas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London
    Posts
    33,378
    Soon, second hand ones are going to be worth nothing (just like the traditional "basic plastic" Swatch). Put a few untouched ones in the safe.

  5. #1005
    Grand Master abraxas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London
    Posts
    33,378
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Close up, it does look like a nasty cheap thing.

    Swatch group must be laughing their heads off.
    You are not meant to use it. And it's your fault if you do. It will not end well. The fakes are going to be better than the real ones. We are entering the twilight zone without a watch.

  6. #1006
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    Soon, second hand ones are going to be worth nothing (just like the traditional "basic plastic" Swatch). Put a few untouched ones in the safe.
    I wonder. I really can't tell which way they'll go.

    The average Swatch is worth from 15% to 100% of its RRP on the second hand market: It depends on aesthetic appeal and condition. Limited edition Swatches can be worth hundreds of times their RRP. So far, for comparison, the Moonswatch is a de facto limited edition. If Swatch cease or suspend production of certain models (even if it's for QC reasons!), this will just push up secondary market prices.

    My gut feeling is that Swatch are going to end production of all of the Moonswatches at some point, probably before demand has been fully met.

    That said, I still can't be sure as to which way it will go on the longer run.


    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    The fakes are going to be better than the real ones.
    This does look like being a distinct possibility.

  7. #1007
    Master jukeboxs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    4,104
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    My gut feeling is that Swatch are going to end production of all of the Moonswatches at some point...
    Amazing insight there.

  8. #1008
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    Amazing insight there.
    Hah! It is the "probably before demand has been fully met" that sets the key context.

    In other news, the weather will get better after the storm is over.

  9. #1009

  10. #1010
    Master earlofsodbury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    The Flat Stuff, Lincs.
    Posts
    2,930
    If these are ultimately a technical failure (case/dial fragility, mechanisms falling apart, colour bleed, &c), then a brief, short production run will only enhance the collector value for Speedy-obsessives as the years grind by. Suspect for those that can spare the cash, mint full sets will always command over-cost prices if you can afford to sit on them for a while.

  11. #1011
    Grand Master Neil.C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    SE England
    Posts
    26,046
    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    This is plastic tat
    Harsh but fair.
    Cheers,
    Neil.

    My Speedmaster website:

    http://www.freewebs.com/neil271052

  12. #1012
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    550
    Quote Originally Posted by earlofsodbury View Post
    If these are ultimately a technical failure (case/dial fragility, mechanisms falling apart, colour bleed, &c), then a brief, short production run will only enhance the collector value for Speedy-obsessives as the years grind by. Suspect for those that can spare the cash, mint full sets will always command over-cost prices if you can afford to sit on them for a while.
    I think you might be right. If that happened, there could well be a 'sweet spot' where the initial hype died a little, before it was decided to pull them. We might even be there around now with them 450-500. And even the hint of that happening might ironically push them up.

  13. #1013
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Location
    Chelmsford, Essex
    Posts
    850
    I did really want to try one but most of the reviews I've watched say nice design, love the colour options but the actual watch is poor quality and not even worth RRP let alone the 2nd hand price.
    Maybe if the continue to make them ill get one in a year or so once the hype has died down

    Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

  14. #1014
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    11th May -- Now 144 under £500, cheapest is £360.
    23rd May

    193 under £500, cheapest at £338

  15. #1015
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    London & Kent
    Posts
    1,076
    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    Close up, it does look like a nasty cheap thing.

    Swatch group must be laughing their heads off.
    This


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  16. #1016
    I don’t know if it is meant as some kind of therapy but repeated assertions that it is a cheap plastic watch worth less than 50 quids doesn’t achieve anything.

  17. #1017
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    South Wales
    Posts
    61

    Interesting ‘unofficial update’ from Professional Watches

    Professional Watches today reported that the MoonSwatch may not be available online:
    “All of this said, the MoonSwatch was still supposed to be available for purchase online at some point, however, we’ve now seen unofficially confirmed reports that Swatch has decided the MoonSwatch will not be sold online at all. With no official statement being made, all we can go on is that unconfirmed reports and Swatch’s actions that suggest the company’s stance is to keep selling only at the store level, as opposed to fulfilling any online orders.”

    https://professionalwatches.com/unof...swatch-update/

  18. #1018
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield
    Posts
    1,681
    Baffling.

  19. #1019
    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    Baffling.
    I can see there are a number of challenges they are facing:

    1. How to manufacture enough watches to meet demand
    2. How to stop the website crashing when they go live
    3. How to post out such a huge number of boxes

    Someone in Swatch has got to make an estimate on how many they think would sell on day one, hour one, minute one and so on. And that number is almost impossible to guess, never mind manage.

    I guess they just made the call that they'll continue to do things the way they are for now until demand softens and an online launch won't break the internet.

  20. #1020
    Master earlofsodbury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    The Flat Stuff, Lincs.
    Posts
    2,930
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    I can see there are a number of challenges they are facing:

    1. How to manufacture enough watches to meet demand
    2. How to stop the website crashing when they go live
    3. How to post out such a huge number of boxes

    Someone in Swatch has got to make an estimate on how many they think would sell on day one, hour one, minute one and so on. And that number is almost impossible to guess, never mind manage.

    I guess they just made the call that they'll continue to do things the way they are for now until demand softens and an online launch won't break the internet.

    Alternatively, they're not going online because the rumoured technical issues are real, so once existing stock has gone out to dealers, they'll quietly be pulled...

  21. #1021
    Master M1011's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2020
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    2,292
    Quote Originally Posted by YCymro View Post
    Professional Watches today reported that the MoonSwatch may not be available online:
    “All of this said, the MoonSwatch was still supposed to be available for purchase online at some point, however, we’ve now seen unofficially confirmed reports that Swatch has decided the MoonSwatch will not be sold online at all. With no official statement being made, all we can go on is that unconfirmed reports and Swatch’s actions that suggest the company’s stance is to keep selling only at the store level, as opposed to fulfilling any online orders.”

    https://professionalwatches.com/unof...swatch-update/
    I wonder what an "unofficially confirmed report" is? Sounds a lot like an unconfirmed report.

  22. #1022
    Grand Master abraxas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    London
    Posts
    33,378
    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    Baffling.
    They can't survive the post journey.

  23. #1023
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    South Wales
    Posts
    61
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    I can see there are a number of challenges they are facing:

    1. How to manufacture enough watches to meet demand
    2. How to stop the website crashing when they go live
    3. How to post out such a huge number of boxes

    Someone in Swatch has got to make an estimate on how many they think would sell on day one, hour one, minute one and so on. And that number is almost impossible to guess, never mind manage.

    I guess they just made the call that they'll continue to do things the way they are for now until demand softens and an online launch won't break the internet.
    Regarding your three points:
    1. It is the lack of supply that fans the flame of demand and on-going discussion. I doubt if Swatch has any intention of attempting to meet demand whilst it remains so high.
    2. And 3. Perhaps Swatch should follow the Eddie fast finger first process of supply online?

    The fact that we’re all still talking about (and wanting) a watch which should cost 100 bucks shows from their perspective that they’re doing a good job.

    To maintain publicity, I wouldn’t be surprised in a month to see a Dark Side of the MoonSwatch being produced, then a Tin Tin in 3 Months.
    Then, on December 1st in some sort of Swatchvent Calendar, they could release 1000 watches online each day on the run up to Christmas, first come , first served. Imagine the demand and ensuing publicity that would generate!

  24. #1024
    Master Ruggertech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Location
    Deepest darkest South Wales.
    Posts
    4,268
    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    They can't survive the post journey.
    Or maybe they can't stop the colours leaching through the packaging, which will give the game away to light fingered posties ;)

  25. #1025
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Popped past yesterday. Only display Moonswatches in store, but in the few minutes I was there 6 or 7 people popped past asking if any were in stock. It was a real mix of men in suits, and casual young men. Clearly demand is still mega, scalpers or no scalpers, and they need a delivery a day to address it. Staff seemed pretty certain they'd get plenty more stock in during the summer - seems to be arriving every 4 or 5 days.



    I did rather like the Jubilee Swatch, though £83 for it seems a bit much



  26. #1026
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    I did rather like the Jubilee Swatch, though £83 for it seems a bit much

    Another one that is popular with resellers. Lots for sale at over RRP on eBay. I've not bothered to click to see if they are actually selling at over RRP, though.

    They certainly should not be selling at over RRP since they are easily available direct from Swatch at RRP. Either shop or from the website: I bought one recently from swatch.com with delivery in six days direct from Basel.

    It comes with a sparkly silver paper crown in the box!
    Last edited by markrlondon; 24th May 2022 at 11:40.

  27. #1027
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    It comes with a sparkly silver paper crown in the box!
    Don't tell my children or I'll be sent back to the store for one!!

    I do love a Swatch.

    Also - why on earth are they going over list - the store has a stack of them!

  28. #1028
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    I do love a Swatch.
    They are a lot of fun.

    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Also - why on earth are they going over list - the store has a stack of them!
    As I said, I hadn't checked to see if they really were going for over list price but you prompted me to look just now at sold items and indeed many are selling for over list. Many are below or at RRP, but quite a few really do seem to have sold above RRP!

    I can only presume that it's due to FOMO coupled with being too panicked, for want of a better term, to think to look at swatch.com. Bizarre. But markets are not necessarily rational. Buying on eBay is so easy, of course.

  29. #1029
    Master RJM25R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Wondering why people with no interest in watches seem to live on here?
    Posts
    7,646
    Blog Entries
    5
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    They are a lot of fun.



    As I said, I hadn't checked to see if they really were going for over list price but you prompted me to look just now at sold items and indeed many are selling for over list. Many are below or at RRP, but quite a few really do seem to have sold above RRP!

    I can only presume that it's due to FOMO coupled with being too panicked, for want of a better term, to think to look at swatch.com. Bizarre. But markets are not necessarily rational. Buying on eBay is so easy, of course.

    It’s the ease.

    My wife regularly buys things online at over list price/more expensive than the high st if it means she doesn’t have to go to the Trafford centre which takes the best part of an hour each way and she hates the place when she is on her own…..

  30. #1030
    Master Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Co. Durham
    Posts
    9,675
    I can imagine in 50yrs time one coming up on the Antiques Road Show.... a rare working example with original packing..."I'm going to put an auction price of £30k on this, thank you for bringing it along"😁

  31. #1031
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    I can imagine in 50yrs time one coming up on the Antiques Road Show.... a rare working example with original packing..."I'm going to put an auction price of £30k on this, thank you for bringing it along"
    LOL, yes.

  32. #1032
    Master Scrubnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    At large in the West Country, UK
    Posts
    2,608
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post

    It comes with a sparkly silver paper crown in the box!
    Well that’s sold it to me . I can’t resist shiny things

  33. #1033
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrubnut View Post
    Well that’s sold it to me . I can’t resist shiny things
    Excellent. I'll collect my commission from Swatch later. ;-)

  34. #1034
    Grand Master andrewcregan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Highlands, Scotland
    Posts
    11,784
    Are these watches being used as an incredible marketing/promotion product.

    Has Swatch ever had so much free publicity?
    By limiting supply, deliberately or not, they are getting a lot of customers into their stores.
    Whether they make an alternative purchase or not I don’t know, but they must be getting some additional sales?
    Keep the rumours going, and staff unsure of what is going on, and people just keep on visiting the store.

    I’d like to think that they are attempting to fix the leaking colour problem, and will, when it suits them, release to the mass market via online sales. I suspect that they could easily sell millions of these, probably at £150 profit per watch.

  35. #1035
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post
    Whether they make an alternative purchase or not I don’t know, but they must be getting some additional sales?
    I must admit that it has resulted in me buying two Swatch watches (one from swatch.com, one from a Swatch AD online) that I would definitely not otherwise have bought!

  36. #1036
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    I must admit that it has resulted in me buying two Swatch watches (one from swatch.com, one from a Swatch AD online) that I would definitely not otherwise have bought!
    Let's see them

  37. #1037
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Let's see them
    The first was the 'How Majestic' model (GZ711) as you pictured above and the second was a Piet Mondrian watch (SUOZ344).



    If anyone fancies getting the Mondrian watch then the best place to get it seems to be First Class Watches, https://www.firstclasswatches.co.uk/...oz344-p-87637/, where it is discounted from RRP and you can easily get an additional 10% discount code.
    Last edited by markrlondon; 26th May 2022 at 14:35.

  38. #1038
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    254
    I’ve lost all interest in these now but it hasn’t stopped my son from pining for his first “speedmaster”. I’m more tempted with the other suggestion on this thread of a Buliva chrono for him.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  39. #1039
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    The first was the 'How Majestic' model (GZ711) as you pictured above
    I see today that this is now available at First Class Watches at RRP but you can get the extra 10% off voucher code.

  40. #1040
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield
    Posts
    1,681
    For someone wanting to scratch the Speedmaster itch without paying the price for a real one, I rather like these TV dialed homages by Omologato...

    https://www.omologatowatches.com/panam/pantbl

    Keep thinking about grabbing one. Probably a more sensible purchase at 2x the price than a cheap swatch.

  41. #1041
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    The first was the 'How Majestic' model (GZ711) as you pictured above and the second was a Piet Mondrian watch (SUOZ344).
    Very cool. Enjoy

  42. #1042
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    The first was the 'How Majestic' model (GZ711) as you pictured above and the second was a Piet Mondrian watch (SUOZ344).


    https://youtu.be/6djTtvQjbcc

  43. #1043
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Very cool. Enjoy
    Thanks. :-)



    Quote Originally Posted by andyb View Post
    Hah, well remembered! I used to like that advert.

  44. #1044
    Master
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Slovenia
    Posts
    2,691
    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    For someone wanting to scratch the Speedmaster itch without paying the price for a real one, I rather like these TV dialed homages by Omologato...

    https://www.omologatowatches.com/panam/pantbl

    Keep thinking about grabbing one. Probably a more sensible purchase at 2x the price than a cheap swatch.
    I like it.



    Red one look really hot ;)


  45. #1045
    Master Scrubnut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    At large in the West Country, UK
    Posts
    2,608
    Quote Originally Posted by matt View Post
    I like it.



    Red one look really hot ;)

    I might have to go here if i fail on Sunday. Looks pretty cool

  46. #1046
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield
    Posts
    1,681
    I still have yet to buy one of their watches but a friend of mine is a repeat customer, and they seem pretty good at building a relationship with good customers which is nice to see in this day and age.

  47. #1047
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,575
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    I still have yet to buy one of their watches but a friend of mine is a repeat customer, and they seem pretty good at building a relationship with good customers which is nice to see in this day and age.
    I take it that you're not referring to Swatch boutiques. ;-)

  48. #1048
    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    For someone wanting to scratch the Speedmaster itch without paying the price for a real one, I rather like these TV dialed homages by Omologato...

    https://www.omologatowatches.com/panam/pantbl

    Keep thinking about grabbing one. Probably a more sensible purchase at 2x the price than a cheap swatch.
    Does anyone own one of these? They look pretty cool but not found much on reviews for them.

  49. #1049
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield
    Posts
    1,681
    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Does anyone own one of these? They look pretty cool but not found much on reviews for them.
    I have a friend who owns a whole bunch of their watches (albeit not one of the Panamericas) and seems to love them. I don't own one personally but just shared the link as I've been on the fence about picking one up for ages.

  50. #1050
    Master
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Essex
    Posts
    1,868
    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    23rd May

    193 under £500, cheapest at £338
    6th June

    246 under £500, cheapest is £293.

    Wont be long until they're available at retail

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information