Omega x Swatch

[paw3001]

Pluto was declassified as a planet a long time ago. It’s a shame omega didn’t get that right.

Moon and the Sun aren’t planets either - What were they thinking!!!!

[markrlondon]

I wouldn’t call that ‘witless greenwashing’, that’s too cynical.

Nothing is too cynical when it comes to this sphere of marketing. Using the environment as a product is, in and of itself, unbelievably cynical. Why would I not react in kind.

Market the watches because they are good watches. Not imply that they might save the world with huggy-fluffy re-used materials (that themselves must require considerable energy to re-manufacture): They can't and won't save anything. They are primarily showmanship.

Though I would agree with you that there’s a lot to be said for a long lasting metal watch which is designed to be repaired.

Quite so. If we are concerned with the environment then what we already have might actually be best.

[DimGR]

^^^ Interesting. Does that work for "all Swatches"?

Well, no, it doesn't. It definitely does not work on mine. The crown won't come out, no matter what.

As I say, the original point of them was that they were a sealed, unmaintainable unit. No front access, no access at all (apart from battery).

Yes all are. You just need to know how to pull


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[MadeOfCheese]

Pluto was declassified as a planet a long time ago. It’s a shame omega didn’t get that right.

Wasn’t it reinstated recently though?

[Itsguy]

Moon and the Sun aren’t planets either - What were they thinking!!!!

Just wait, these are Speedmasters, they’ve probably got the moons of Jupiter and the whole of the Oort Cloud on the way…

[MadeOfCheese]

Also, I don’t think they’ve specifically referred to them as ‘planets’, have they?

[MadeOfCheese]

Just wait, these are Speedmasters, they’ve probably got the moons of Jupiter and the whole of the Oort Cloud on the way…

I quite fancy a nice white and blue Mission to Milky Way…

[markrlondon]

Yes all are. You just need to know how to pull

I am willing to be taught. How do you pull?

[Kingstepper]

Even the term 'bioceramic' is just a marketing gimmick - it's neither a bioceramic in the usual sense (a ceramic compatible with the body) or what the name suggests (a biologically derived ceramic).

[bobc]

Got mine from Covent Garden today. I like it.

Must admit I like that too.
Wonder if the dot over 90 will fit pre moon watches

[boring_sandwich]

More update, a cut down (thin wrists bless her) rubber deployment for wife's Earth and a better pic of the re-stapped Pluto

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It looks really nice on that strap. The only negative I could find was the OEM strap.

[jimboy]

It looks really nice on that strap. The only negative I could find was the OEM strap.

Our thoughts exactly, the stiff velcros are back in the boxes with the docs in case we need to buy some gas & electricity

[HenPecked]

I've been wearing mine for 24 hours now, and the velcro is softening up.

Going to try some different straps on it tomorrow - I've got a lot in 20mm to choose from!

[watchcollector1]

It's funny how so many seem to have an issue with a price of £200 for a "plastic" cased Swiss ETA Chronograph watch yet £145 for a bit of Omega branded fabric is fine. Presumably if that fabric also had Swatch branding it'd only be worth a tenner.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/o...SABEgJRBvD_BwE²

[Christian]

It's funny how so many seem to have an issue with a price of £200 for a "plastic" cased Swiss ETA Chronograph watch yet £145 for a bit of Omega branded fabric is fine. Presumably if that fabric also had Swatch branding it'd only be worth a tenner.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/o...SABEgJRBvD_BwE²

Yes, thats a very valid point. Value is a funny old thing...for me, I'm happy to spend thousands on a watch but both the straps and the Moonswatch seem poor value.

[catch21]

I think they're great things, but of fun while being associated with some pretty special and spectacular watch heritage.

First inclination might have been towards Mercury but on balance they're not supposed to be subdued and sombre and I think one of the brighter versions would be more appropriate.

I'm having a hard job not viewing them like Mondaines. I'm railway through and through and love the idea of a Swiss railway watch or even clock on the wall, but I can't get past the thought I'm spending £200+ on a whim, it's going to sit in the box, can't see a time when I'd ever reach for it.

[Christian]

I'm having a hard job not viewing them like Mondaines. I'm railway through and through and love the idea of a Swiss railway watch or even clock on the wall, but I can't get past the thought I'm spending £200+ on a whim, it's going to sit in the box, can't see a time when I'd ever reach for it.

I agree with this. I own a Speedmaster Mk2 and can't see myself buying a Moonswatch because I can't see myself wearing it. It would be a drawer purchase for me. The only reason I could justify would be if it was going to be discontinued in, say, a year and then unavailable. Then it might be a collectible piece of Speedmaster history. I'm not talking value either, just the fact it would be unobtainable.

[Scrubnut]

I'm having a hard job not viewing them like Mondaines. I'm railway through and through and love the idea of a Swiss railway watch or even clock on the wall, but I can't get past the thought I'm spending £200+ on a whim, it's going to sit in the box, can't see a time when I'd ever reach for it.

i don't wear a lot of my watches but it doesn't stop me buying them and getting enjoyment from them. When they stop giving me that, they get moved on.

[PhilT]

Also, I don’t think they’ve specifically referred to them as ‘planets’, have they?

Well, they all have MoonSwatch on the dial, so are they all moons?

Still coming to terms with the Pluto revelation. Expensive prep school education has clearly expired.

[chrisparker]

I agree with this. I own a Speedmaster Mk2 and can't see myself buying a Moonswatch because I can't see myself wearing it. It would be a drawer purchase for me. The only reason I could justify would be if it was going to be discontinued in, say, a year and then unavailable. Then it might be a collectible piece of Speedmaster history. I'm not talking value either, just the fact it would be unobtainable.

I think those in funky colours are the perfect holiday watch. Not a disaster if it’s damaged, they look good, and if you’re bothered what others think, it shows you’ve an interest in watches. Dig out your finest budgie smugglers and get one to match those.

The worst part of a holiday is putting your watch through airport security, plaggy swatches are made for that.

[Passenger]

Just pop your holiday watch in a jacket-coat pocket or in your shoes when you place them in the grey box for the scan session, no problemo...ah the romance.

[Christian]

The worst part of a holiday is putting your watch through airport security, plaggy swatches are made for that.

I always take a watch case with me and stick it in the backpack before getting to security. I have been witness to a disaster before though…going through security, he took his Black Bay off and dropped it on the concrete floor. I felt the pain!

I don’t really buy holiday watches. Would rather take a nice watch but leave it in the safe if I’m going to the beach.

[M1011]

The worst part of a holiday is putting your watch through airport security, plaggy swatches are made for that.

Watchpod cases are perfect for this

I don’t really buy holiday watches. Would rather take a nice watch but leave it in the safe if I’m going to the beach.

This may be completely unfounded, but I place zero trust in hotel safes to actually be secure. Presumably people forget the codes daily, so staff must have an override and hotels always say it's left at your own risk.

[Mr Curta]

This may be completely unfounded, but I place zero trust in hotel safes to actually be secure. Presumably people forget the codes daily, so staff must have an override and hotels always say it's left at your own risk.

Not unfounded at all. There's always an override, they are rarely securely fixed and the locking mechanism on many will ping open with a firm whack. The proper safe deposit at reception is the only place for anything of real value.

[Christian]

Not unfounded at all. There's always an override, they are rarely securely fixed and the locking mechanism on many will ping open with a firm whack. The proper safe deposit at reception is the only place for anything of real value.

I just take the risk...over the last few years, I've reduced the value of individual watches in my collection....now generally £1000-£3000 in value. If the safe looks dodgy, I'll just hide it in my locked suitcase.

[Kirk280]

I don’t know why anyone would buy one of these ridiculous watches. They are terrible.

[M4tt]

I am willing to be taught. How do you pull?

Always works for me.

[dbrickashaw]

I don’t know why anyone would buy one of these ridiculous watches. They are terrible.

In a hobby where the majority of enjoyment comes from multi-thousand pound purchases, the fact I can get some enjoyment from owning a £207 watch seems worth it to me...

[RAJEN]

In a hobby where the majority of enjoyment comes from multi-thousand pound purchases, the fact I can get some enjoyment from owning a £207 watch seems worth it to me...

Absolutely. I cannot understand why people are getting so worked up about it.
It is a fun watch for not too much money.
May not be for everyone but few things are.

[Scrubnut]

As time has gone by I’ve lost interest. I got caught up in the excitement for a few days hoping they would be available online and I could buy one, or several.

Now I really cannot be arsed, I hate waiting and I’ve come to the conclusion they’re just a stunt. Missed your chance there Swatch. Nevermind.

[PhilipK]

This may be completely unfounded, but I place zero trust in hotel safes to actually be secure. Presumably people forget the codes daily, so staff must have an override and hotels always say it's left at your own risk.

I specialised in cyber security before I retired, and spent many nights in business-class hotels along the way.

One evening, I noticed that my room safe was not physically secured to anything, so I lifted it out of its cupboard (as you do) to have a look. On the back of the safe was a sticker with the (very easy to remember, and obviously standard across that range of safes - won't mention it here, but it was along the lines of 777777777777) override code. A quiet word with the manager, and when I got back to my room the following evening the safe was very firmly secured to the wall. However, on subsequent visits to that hotel chain I was always able to use that override code to open my room safe. I'm sure that the code was also common knowledge among the hotel staff.

These days I use a PacSafe TravelSafe - a 12L for laptop, etc in hotel rooms, and a 5L for mobile phones, etc when at a pool or similar. No, they won't sustain a professional attack, but they will stop an opportunist, and I have good travel insurance should anything get stolen. https://pacsafe.co.uk/collections/portable-safes-bag-protectors

Meanwhile, back to the topic of the thread - yes, I'll probably get one for the fun of it. I'll also look forward to a future Swatch x Bregeut :-)

[P4u1]

More update, a cut down (thin wrists bless her) rubber deployment for wife's Earth and a better pic of the re-stapped Pluto

Thanks for sharing those pics. I really fancy picking one of these up but don't like the strap they come on. They look great in those pics.

They make a great summer/holiday watch. Can't wait to pick one up when they are available.

[number2]

Year's ago I had a Speedy which I just didn't get on with, just thought it was meh, but I can see me getting one of these - a £200 Speedy knock off that isn't.

[Sinnlover]

The swatch shop Oxford Street at 9:30 yesterday morning

[oldoakknives]

I would quite like to have one of those, but won't be going to London to buy one.

Perhaps the prices will go down to normal levels when more are available second hand, who knows?

[RJM25R]

Lots on EBay for £500 buy it now or best offer. Makes a mockery of those alleged “sales” for £5000+


Maybe some panic from the people who bought fools gold?

[gerrudd]

I popped into Swatch on Carnaby St on Wednesday. They had no stock but they said that the Convent Garden and Oxford St stores would be getting stock (and will be the only stores to carry the watch.)

[Highroller1]

I would definitely like to add 1 or 2 of these to my collection although not sure i would wear them but still great looking watches.

[Jonesy9]

I was going to say that it feels like the hype has died down already, but seeing the picture above of people still queuing for opening to see if there’s any new stock makes me think that it’ll still be a while yet until Swatch make them available online.

[AmosMoses]

I’m in Paris at the minute and can confirm the hype is still real. Enormous lines outside the stores which have them, people lining up way before the stores open.


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[gcleminson]

Lots on EBay for £500 buy it now or best offer. Makes a mockery of those alleged “sales” for £5000+


Maybe some panic from the people who bought fools gold?

There’s precisely one advertised on eBay with a BIN under £500 and that’s one of the less popular ones, so not really true.

[witti]

And I understand that these Moonswatches are sealed units whose maintenance is limited to battery changing. This means that it will be necessary to destroy the case to gain access to change the movement or carry out any work on it beyond battery changing.

That is not genuinely "sustainable" in my view, no matter what the plastic is made of. This is why I say it is all about greenwashing and marketing. It's just ultimately a throw away item that has nice warm snugly feeling fad-words related to it that appeal to a certain demographic so that hey don't think how wasteful its manufacture and ultimate fate will almost certainly be.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m shocked how easy to manipulate the masses.
Especially knowing that “sustainable” does exist for long time in the watch industry.
I can’t see how a product which can work for decades or -let’s say- a century requiring only manual or automatic winding and some servicing here and there wouldn’t be environment friendly.
The only fault I of the mechanical watch is that you don’t need to replace it for decades and consumer society don’t like it.

[boring_sandwich]

There’s precisely one advertised on eBay with a BIN under £500 and that’s one of the less popular ones, so not really true.

£500 does seem to be around the market value preowned. Mine sold instantly at just under that price.

[RJM25R]

There’s precisely one advertised on eBay with a BIN under £500 and that’s one of the less popular ones, so not really true.

I should have put “around” £500 I suppose.

I’ve made a few offers of between £300-375 and been offered plenty for £400-£500 but none on the 3 that I would like.

[MadeOfCheese]

Any more photos from members here? Surely a few more people must have managed to get hold of one?

I’m really interested to see “live” photos, especially on different straps.

[gcleminson]

I should have put “around” £500 I suppose.

I’ve made a few offers of between £300-375 and been offered plenty for £400-£500 but none on the 3 that I would like.

I think the prices will remain inflated for as long as they’re only available in store.

[cf31bloobird]

I think the prices will remain inflated for as long as they’re only available in store.

I think you're right, I'll end up getting one .. if I can order online and get one delivered to my door, at RRP :)

[gcleminson]

And there are fakes of these now apparently, priced at $148 according to another conversation I’m following. Bizarre.

[TomGW]

Edinburgh had a delivery this morning, bought a Mission to Mars for my son. Security required and I was 20 mins too late for a Mercury for myself - if I had bought one.

Any photos?

[Hatco1800es]

Any photos?

It was whisked away from me in an instance. Available on the Insta soon no doubt!!