Reply With QuotePerhaps these can be faked that quick?Originally Posted by Christian
Possible pre-production test?
Agree...there appears to be no text on the caseback. What I don't understand is wow on earth would fakes exist this quickly as it was such a closely guarded secret until a couple of days ago! It would imply the factory that make them are also making the fakes from the same moulds?
Perhaps these can be faked that quick?
Possible pre-production test?
When was the cover blown on these watches...last Wednesday? 4-days to produce the designs and tooling to churn out a complete fake...I don't really know how it works but that shocks me. Would make more sense to me if either the original designs were leaked to the counterfeiters from the official factory or the factory themselves were responsible somehow. Also, the counterfeiters have kept things extremely under wraps to release at the same time as the real product.
That is all assuming that photo is a fake. Official pre-production test would make sense...again, whoever owned it was careful to release that picture after main launch and if they know it's not the actual production model I don't know their intentions posting that picture. All very odd!
Last edited by Christian; 28th March 2022 at 11:17.
I'm gonna mate these two and breed my own. Who wants one?
It’s clearly a winning formula.I'm gonna mate these two and breed my own. Who wants one?
To the average Joe on the street, these new watches look like an Omega.
Getting into ‘Omega’ at the £207 price point is incredible.
Yep...from the comments I've seen in non-WIS forums/subs, it's not even about the Speedmaster but having a watch with an Omega brand name on the dial. They could have made any design and stuck Omega on the dial and got the same level of interest. I'd reckon most people couldn't care less about the actual watch, more about being seen to wear something with a luxury brand on the dial.
Have had eyes on at the Omega boutique on Regents Street.
Still like them, actually think the blue Neptune is my fave now. None at the Swatch shop, not even display.
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Did they let you cop a feel or are they window display only?Have had eyes on at the Omega boutique on Regents Street.
Still like them, actually think the blue Neptune is my fave now. None at the Swatch shop, not even display.
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Who is the old git in the reflection having a good gawp at them.Have had eyes on at the Omega boutique on Regents Street.
Still like them, actually think the blue Neptune is my fave now. None at the Swatch shop, not even display.
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The horror of buying a plastic watch, only to find that plastic fakes are already being made.
Random Rob on YouTube has posted a video showing the same blue colour transfer, suggesting it is from the battery hatch sticker.
I hadn't realised that was just a sticker over the normal battery hatch. Was wondering where the slot you put the 2p piece to unscrew the cover was!
Bravo Swatch. They have even managed to tap into the whole politics of sticker removal. At this rate, Rolex will have few USPS left.
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Did you speak to anyone at the Swatch shop? Did they mention any expected ETA for new stock?
Is that not the person that buys it over RRP? Or even RRP for that matter?
Yeah, would be good to know. But I guess for the next month or so, all stock will be bought up every time it arrives.
Maybe I will try my luck in the summer!
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Can't see an old git, just a devilishly handsome chap...
They wouldn't let me touch them, had to make do with fondling a co-axial moonphase 57.
I was talking to a chap from Swatch today. He said that they were due to get another batch in next week. I think that they should have held back a couple of thousand and sold them through ebay from today at rrp just to piss the scalpers off.
Was there a day mentioned? I can call them myself tomorrow but may save them one of thousands of calls I'm sure they're receiving.
They’ve said on there socials that due to demand they are limiting them to one per customer, carnage are the stores at the weekend
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My girlfriend is just at Swatch in San Fransisco. They had 180 units and all sold instantly on Saturday. They are expecting another delivery in 2 - 3 weeks. Models were display only and couldn't be handled. Pics in my Instagram if anyone's interested!
What a bunch of idiots, fighting over a watch that they can just buy online in a couple of weeks anyway. Its a cheap Swatch and by all the online photos not a very well made one either.
I was thinking of picking a couple up for the kids as a bit of a fun watch but I am starting to lose interest now, I would rather not be associated with these lot trying to fight their way into a shop for a plastic watch.
If it carries on like this I can see more than a few people turn their backs on these.
He later did some simple swab testing with a Q-tip, and it seems to be coming from the case, not the sticker…
You've heard of blued hands, now you can have a blued wrist.
Inform - Educate - Entertain
It's from the case material as opposed to the battery sticker. Presumably it'll go away after a bit of use.
Hopefully no one puts it on a waffle strap
Too much bio not enough ceramic
It was actually reduced to one per customer last Friday, before the actual release on Saturday!
Apparently these are freely available in China.
I have a friend working in China - and many of the stores are in cities under lock down - which means they have stock.
I've asked if she can get one... will update if she's successful.
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I didn’t read closely enough. So the case is plastic, is it??! If so, I’m definitely out.
It's a combination of ZrO2 and polymer (I think derived from castor bean oil)....so technically there is ceramic (ie a material neither metallic or organic) in there mixed in with a polymer agent. Zirconium oxide is the same ceramic material as the Dark Side of the Moon except to produce DSOM cases, the pure ZrO2 pellets are heated in a furnace rather than mixed with a plastic agent. I've not handled one but I expect it to feel like a hard plastic rather than the ceramic from high end ceramic cased watches. I don't think it will feel as soft as some of the other Swatch cases. Property wise, probably more brittle but harder than a pure plastic.
I think the use of it by Swatch is purely marketing though...especially the bio- bit to appeal to those who think of plastic as the evil to the sea. Swatch faced a big problem when this became a hot topic and I think this was their strategy.
Last edited by Christian; 29th March 2022 at 12:11.
Have they been given silly names yet to give them some gravitas? The blue one could be The Smurf.
Was it a case of one delivery on Saturday, then wait for an unspecified date for further deliveries?
Uranus = ?
Maybe a 'mission to Uranus' is a harder sell !?
If I was cynical I would say that most coloured plastics have a proportion of filler to give the colour and Swatch have found a marketing way to turn that into “ceramic”
Dave
Yup, pure marketing/brand image. I think it was just pre-pandemic where plastic was the big environmental evil polluting the sea and the issue everyone was talking about. Pretty sure that was when Swatch decided to bring in "bio-ceramic" in some of their other watches to limit the damage being associated with plastic. Also suits a purpose here so that it seems the watches aren't just seen as plastic toys.
The Cerulean Starfish?
The Jade Towel Holder?
The Lazuline Gary?
No - science meets horology meets branding. Bioceramics is a class of materials that is used for repairing or replacing damaged bone tissues. Depending on the application, bioceramics can directly interact with the surrounding tissue, either supporting tissue growth or inducing new tissue regeneration for bioactive ceramics. of course Google is our friend.
That certainly isn’t Swatch bioceramic.
I’m not a materials expert but I assume the term bioceramics covers a wide variety of materials made from combining biologically sourced material and a ceramic and is used in different contexts.
Swatch uses the term to describe their mix of ceramic material (zirconium oxide) and a bio-sourced plastic (a derivative of castor oil) and is wildly different from whatever is used in medical terminology where I reckon the biological material is actually specifically in there to allow compatibility with the body.
Last edited by Christian; 29th March 2022 at 14:12.
Given its propensity to spray ink, maybe the Octopus?
M
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If The Sun variant leaks, it has to be called The Golden ShowerGiven its propensity to spray ink, maybe the Octopus?
M
Popped into my local store as I passed by this afternoon. No queue.
Only two models available today. Sun and Venus. Probably the least popular versions. They expect deliveries daily, but don’t know in advance which models.
Won’t take long for the hype to die down.
what about the brown one?
What shop was that
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Lausanne
Well Swatch group do own ETA, so . . .
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