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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    4th May -- Had a quick look - now 90 under £500, cheapest is £388. Looks like people aren't paying big mark ups for a plastic watch
    11th May -- Now 144 under £500, cheapest is £360.

    I can't imagine the flippers will survive long. Got to be pretty galling sat on your credit card bill not able to shift a bedroom full of plastic watches you don't want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    I've spoken to Oxford Street staff on a number of occasions; they are selling them, but each delivery is between 50 and 100 watches, and they all sell out before lunch (not ideal for people hoping to pop out on their lunch break).

    No surprise given London is the most populus city in Europe and currently only has two stores selling them.
    The people of Istanbul, Moscow and Paris might argue with you there, but the point is valid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    I popped in to the Athens boutique this morning, they got a delivery for release day and have had no more since, the manager said they were unlikely to get any more for while. She thinks they are supplying key markets first to keep up with demand.

    On the plus side, just around the corner I found a watch makers supply store with movements, parts, tools and every Hirsch watch strap they make, hundreds of different types in every size. I also got to play with a few Hanhart models as they were a AD. Next door was an Anonimo AD with some of the older original models still in stock (some must have been over 10 years old and NOS). Athens is good for watch shopping, always has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    11th May -- Now 144 under £500, cheapest is £360.

    I can't imagine the flippers will survive long. Got to be pretty galling sat on your credit card bill not able to shift a bedroom full of plastic watches you don't want.
    Clever money would be offering at £399 or best offer and they’d all sell between £300-399 as there’s lots of people like me who’d have to spend £100+ to go and get one anyway!

    I’ve been firing offers of £300 to every “best offer” MoonSwatch on eBay, and whereas I was getting blanked or £500+ am now getting counteroffers at £400+

    I’d still happily pay £300, but no more (apart from maybe a bit more for a Mercury?!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Athens Greece?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Clever money would be offering at £399 or best offer and they’d all sell between £300-399 as there’s lots of people like me who’d have to spend £100+ to go and get one anyway!

    I’ve been firing offers of £300 to every “best offer” MoonSwatch on eBay, and whereas I was getting blanked or £500+ am now getting counteroffers at £400+

    I’d still happily pay £300, but no more (apart from maybe a bit more for a Mercury?!)


    Please do let us know when you finally manage to purchase one at around that price. Shouldn't be too long given the counter offers have started to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Clever money would be offering at £399 or best offer and they’d all sell between £300-399 as there’s lots of people like me who’d have to spend £100+ to go and get one anyway!

    I’ve been firing offers of £300 to every “best offer” MoonSwatch on eBay, and whereas I was getting blanked or £500+ am now getting counteroffers at £400+

    I’d still happily pay £300, but no more (apart from maybe a bit more for a Mercury?!)
    Buy it at 400 and flip it on stockX for 600 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Clever money would be offering at £399 or best offer and they’d all sell between £300-399 as there’s lots of people like me who’d have to spend £100+ to go and get one anyway!

    I’ve been firing offers of £300 to every “best offer” MoonSwatch on eBay, and whereas I was getting blanked or £500+ am now getting counteroffers at £400+

    I’d still happily pay £300, but no more (apart from maybe a bit more for a Mercury?!)


    It would cost me about 25 quid to head in, and an amount of time, but I would put myself in the 300 and no more bracket as well. Just for the lack of faff to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VoleBoy View Post
    It would cost me about 25 quid to head in, and an amount of time, but I would put myself in the 300 and no more bracket as well. Just for the lack of faff to be honest.
    There really isnt much margin in this for people doing the flipping. It wont last.

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    The crystal is fused to the case!!!???
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl8sdAoOl_A

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraxas View Post
    The crystal is fused to the case!!!???
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl8sdAoOl_A
    ZOMG!!!!!***!!!!!!

    I wonder what the truth is?

    I learnt many decades ago that most salesmen will say absolutely anything rather than admit they don't know the answer...

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    Were the crystals replaceable in the traditional plastic Swatches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    There really isnt much margin in this for people doing the flipping. It wont last.
    Depends what world you live in. For many, queuing for a day to make £100 is more than they could ever hope to earn in the workplace.

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    100% interest lost in these now ..... the more I hear/read the less I'm even tempted to part with 200 odd quid, should they ever become available online that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by cf31bloobird View Post
    100% interest lost in these now ..... the more I hear/read the less I'm even tempted to part with 200 odd quid, should they ever become available online that is
    Couldn’t agree more. Happily I have the real deal in my speedy moon…oh and the mk 2 orange hands version as well !


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    Same here, lost interest with all the hype. I happened to be in Edinburgh on a night out the day before launch and had thought that if there wasn't a queue when I was heading home past the shop at 3am I might hang around for one. People already waiting so didn't bother. I'd had a few beers so decided food and bed was a better idea. Glad i left it now.

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    They wouldn't be for me, they remind me of the old Toyota MR2's that lads used to dress up like a 335.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedie View Post
    They wouldn't be for me, they remind me of the old Toyota MR2's that lads used to dress up like a 335.
    It's more the Toyota iQ they rebadged as an Aston Martin Cygnus. I know it's a gimmick but want one anyway!

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    I guess it’s new delivery day here in London. Madness.

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    ^^^ Amazing this is still happening.

    But then again I see that Mars ones are still going for £450 on eBay, so it's still worth it for the queuers.

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    Would love to know the ratio of idiot scalpers to people who actually want to own the watch.. my guess is about.... 49 scalpers to 1 actual punter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    ^^^ Amazing this is still happening.

    But then again I see that Mars ones are still going for £450 on eBay, so it's still worth it for the queuers.
    Are they actually selling at those prices, I wonder?

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    I'm passing through London in about 6 weeks. I am hoping it's perfect timing to pick one up with little/no queueing. Considering how long they've been out, and those queues, I don't think it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barneygumble View Post
    Are they actually selling at those prices, I wonder?
    Yes! You can see the completed auctions.

    Looking randomly at completed Moonswatch auctions (not differentiating between models): £510, £669, £420 (bargain!), £450, £440, £505, £461, £470, and so on.

    That's just some of the completed auction listings from the last day or two, not taking into account BIN listings.

    Offhand, it looks like the Sun model fetches the lowest prices.
    Last edited by markrlondon; 19th May 2022 at 10:36.

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    I'm down in London tomorrow and have a few hours to kill, don't even think there is any point in going to see if they have them.

    Shame as I still fancy a Saturn.

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    All these folks claiming they have lost interest yet still monitoring and replying to the thread…

    Just take some holidays, a camping chair, and get down to the high street for some fresh air and a long queue - you might get lucky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    Would love to know the ratio of idiot scalpers to people who actually want to own the watch.. my guess is about.... 49 scalpers to 1 actual punter..
    Why are they idiots? Many will be struggling to make ends meet, making £200 for a few hours queuing could radically alter their whole month. Difference between heating and eating for many I'd bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    Why are they idiots? Many will be struggling to make ends meet, making £200 for a few hours queuing could radically alter their whole month. Difference between heating and eating for many I'd bet.
    If that is genuinely the case then fair enough.. it’s entrepreneurial I suppose. I am willing to bet a large proportion of them though are serial scalpers and folks who have more cash than most of us who just do actual jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    Why are they idiots? Many will be struggling to make ends meet, making £200 for a few hours queuing could radically alter their whole month. Difference between heating and eating for many I'd bet.
    If it's that a dire situation in the house I would imagine the majority wouldn't shell out 200 quid in the hope that they can turn it into 400 quid ... assuming it sells

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicaneuk View Post
    I am willing to bet a large proportion of them though are serial scalpers and folks who have more cash than most of us who just do actual jobs.
    Hmm, don't know how you would know that, you'll be right about some of them of course. But if I had a job I wouldn't have time to queue, and conversely if I didn't need the money I wouldn't bother queuing if I were one of them. So for me, that leaves mainly people who have neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cf31bloobird View Post
    If it's that a dire situation in the house I would imagine the majority wouldn't shell out 200 quid in the hope that they can turn it into 400 quid ... assuming it sells
    They all are selling looking at ebay. Quick payday loan or a few mates clubbing together. People who need to, find a way.
    Last edited by Ruggertech; 18th May 2022 at 22:40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    All these folks claiming they have lost interest yet still monitoring and replying to the thread…

    Just take some holidays, a camping chair, and get down to the high street for some fresh air and a long queue - you might get lucky.
    I’ve lost interest because they’re not easily available at the moment, though I know my disdain is temporary and I’ll probably buy one when they’re available online and at retail price - which I think is over priced for a plastic watch, though stupidly, the Omega horseshoe makes the difference for me.

    In the meantime there are loads of nice watches on which to spend my £208 (or multiples of it depending how I’m trying to self-justify the latest purchase 🙄)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cf31bloobird View Post
    If it's that a dire situation in the house I would imagine the majority wouldn't shell out 200 quid in the hope that they can turn it into 400 quid ... assuming it sells
    Actually, looking at eBay, it is absolutely guaranteed to sell within a week and is a guaranteed 100%+ profit. There is a profit to be made here for essentially no risk: Just a bit of effort in terms of queuing up.

    If you're short of money, have time to queue, and can spare the capital for a week then it really is a no brainer at the moment. This scenario fits a lot of people.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggertech View Post
    They all are selling looking at ebay. Quick payday loan or a few mates clubbing together. People who need to, find a way.
    This.

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    I’m in the

    Me: “is that a Speedmaster
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThought View Post
    I’m in the

    Me: “is that a Speedmaster
    XOwner: yes
    Me: how much?
    XOwner: £400
    Me: that’s not a Speedmaster

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    So if someone had paid £400 for an Omega Speedmaster, would your point still be valid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    So if someone had paid £400 for an Omega Speedmaster, would your point still be valid?
    I've actually paid less for real ones although TBH it was a good while ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    I've actually paid less for real ones although TBH it was a good while ago.

    Don't suppose you've an old one lying around that you have no use for Neil? I can have the £400 in your account in minutes. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    So if someone had paid £400 for an Omega Speedmaster, would your point still be valid?
    I don’t think there was a deepthought put into that comment.

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    Surely it's more

    "Is that a plastic Speedmaster in a garish colour?"
    "Yes it is"
    "How much did you pay?"
    "£400"
    "You must have really wanted one!"

    Nobody is going to think this is a REAL Speedmaster.

    You're more likely to have one of the Chinese lookalikes confused with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    Surely it's more

    "Is that a plastic Speedmaster in a garish colour?"
    "Yes it is"
    "How much did you pay?"
    "£400"
    "You must have really wanted one!"

    Nobody is going to think this is a REAL Speedmaster.

    You're more likely to have one of the Chinese lookalikes confused with one.

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    Except maybe the Mercury? Looks a bit like a DSOTM…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    I've actually paid less for real ones although TBH it was a good while ago.
    Makes you realise how overpriced Speedmasters are nowadays. When I bought my Speedmaster Reduced new in 1999, the calibre 1861 Moonwatch was £1500 new IIRC and you could expect a discount of at least 10%. With hindsight I wish I had bought the real deal rather than the automatic pretender.

    I realise that inflation is quite high at the moment, but that does not justify the price increases since 1999 IMO. The used values for vintage Speedmasters have also increased accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
    Makes you realise how overpriced Speedmasters are nowadays. When I bought my Speedmaster Reduced new in 1999, the calibre 1861 Moonwatch was £1500 new IIRC and you could expect a discount of at least 10%. With hindsight I wish I had bought the real deal rather than the automatic pretender.

    I realise that inflation is quite high at the moment, but that does not justify the price increases since 1999 IMO. The used values for vintage Speedmasters have also increased accordingly.
    Yep you bought the wrong one. Buyers remorse is a terrible thing.

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    I guess I'll just have to make do with these quartz Speedmasters for now.


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    Popped into the Oxford street branch today and as expected all gone in the first hour.

    Had the chance to properly look one over and I’m now really not fussed.

    It feels like a £50 product at most, they are a good fun piece and definitely have their part in an eclectic collection, but to me they are just not worth the retail, let alone these inflated eBay prices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Except maybe the Mercury? Looks a bit like a DSOTM…..
    Fwiw, when I was perusing the eBay sold prices, I noticed that the Moon one seemed to go for the highest prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    Fwiw, when I was perusing the eBay sold prices, I noticed that the Moon one seemed to go for the highest prices.
    Yeah, I think it’s because it’s the clone of the “original” whereas I thing the Mercury knocks it into a cocked hat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Don't suppose you've an old one lying around that you have no use for Neil? I can have the £400 in your account in minutes. ;-)
    You're a cheeky boy Bob!

    Seriously though, I bought a lot my Speedies from the US when it was two dollars to the pound. Pro's for £400, MKII's for £2-300.

    Those were the days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
    Makes you realise how overpriced Speedmasters are nowadays. When I bought my Speedmaster Reduced new in 1999, the calibre 1861 Moonwatch was £1500 new IIRC and you could expect a discount of at least 10%. With hindsight I wish I had bought the real deal rather than the automatic pretender.

    I realise that inflation is quite high at the moment, but that does not justify the price increases since 1999 IMO. The used values for vintage Speedmasters have also increased accordingly.
    When my wife bought my Submariner in 2004 she paid £1970. A similar situation, surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    Yep you bought the wrong one. Buyers remorse is a terrible thing.
    Yes but I don’t regret buying the Reduced as it’s got a charm all of its own. The constant availability of the Moonwatch meant it was a banker that was always going to be an option for later when deciding to buy something else. Unfortunately I hadn’t really tracked the price increases for the Professional over the years.

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    Neptune to be suspended/discontinued. Allegedly.

    Neptune to be suspended/discontinued. Allegedly.

    Take this for what it is worth.

    From Reddit. A guy (in the USA I think) had the pusher fall out of his Neptune. He spoke to Swatch about warranty replacement: They told him that as the Neptune is one of the colours that has "color bleeding through", they 're not going to produce it any more. They don't keep spare parts. Although he doesn't state it explicitly, the implication is that he cannot have a replacement Neptune as a warranty replacement!

    (As an aside, the colour of the Neptune doesn't look as nice as in the render on the Swatch site in my opinion).


    Pic and link:-

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/com...fective_issue/

    Second time wearing it, bought it on the original day after waiting 13 hours in line. Wanted to wear it for the 3rd time today and noticed the start chronograph button had fallen out, nowhere to be found and the reset button was loose. I pushed it back in and it’s under warranty so I called Swatch. They told me it’s definitely under warranty but the issue with the Neptune specifically is that because it had wide reports of the color bleeding through, it won’t be one of the colors that they’re going to produce in the future (or at least not in the near future). Obviously they aren’t keeping around spare parts so I sent an official email to them and they have to escalate it to the higher powers at Swatch to come up with some sort of solution. I’m pissed because this thing is already really shitty quality like it fell out of a cereal box and now I know this rare watch will be even more rare if they’re not producing it anymore. I really don’t want them to tell me I can have some store credit or some bullshit. I wonder if Swatch has similar part on another watch and I just use a different color so I can keep the chronograph functioning? This is kind of a bummer.
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