Reply With QuoteWhy on earth would you open this in the G&D? how do you expect people to avoid politics?
No, I don't mean in the head. I mean his face. It's become very round and puffy. It looks very much like he's being treated with steroids.
Has he got cancer, by any chance?
I see that some say steroids, some say botox injections. Doesn't look like botox to me.
Why on earth would you open this in the G&D? how do you expect people to avoid politics?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Because naturally his appearance is the first thing that comes to mind currently when someone mentions Putin!Originally Posted by Saint-Just
Because it is fundamentally not a political issue.
You're the first person to mention politics.
Now, any clue what's wrong with him? Steroids can be used to treat all sorts of thing, although I am most familiar with their use to reduce the size of cancer tumours.
Last edited by markrlondon; 26th February 2022 at 19:57.
You are clearly unwell.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Well, he is 71 now, and has been a close friend of Berlusconi. Berlusconi’s knowledge of cosmetic surgeons is only equalled by his passion for young women - must be at least 60 years younger than him.
I think Putin had a few lines filled in his face.
Maybe, maybe not. But this thread most certainly *is* about his appearance and health, and not politics.
Or could it be that you are just trying to make trouble where none need otherwise exist.
I note once again that it is you who was first to mention politics and thus take this thread off-topic.
Last edited by markrlondon; 26th February 2022 at 20:07.
Maybe constipated. Should try prunes.
You are naive in the extreme if you believe this thread will not descend into politics.
(before you descend into a 1000 word analysis - don't)
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Possibly, probably, actually definitely. But only by the usual suspects who will drag their politics into it by default because they cannot help themselves. We should be able to discuss world events without bear pit agenda's ruling the roost.
And yes, Pootin should definitely try some prunes ;)
I read an article last night from an American senator who said something was up with Putin, but wasn't allowed to elaborate so potentially.
Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
Are you saying that the participants of this forum are poorly self-disciplined, immature nitwits who can't tell the difference between health and politics?
Well yes, you do have a point. ;-)
But hey, I'm still curious to know more about what may be wrong with him. I asked here precisely because all current news articles I could see about Putin's health seem to have been written in the context of the war in Ukraine or its build up. I was hoping, yes perhaps foolishly, for any sources that were not so politicised. Hence my choice of a fundamentally non-political subforum.
I guess TZ-UK is not the place to come for intelligent discussion.
Last edited by markrlondon; 26th February 2022 at 20:22.
There have been rumours he has Parkinsons. Obviously just rumours and unlikely anyone on here knows his personal physician
How wonderfully naive.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
I’d guess that his neurotic isolation during Covid indicates that there is some health issue that puts him in a risk group. Cancer would do that as we know.
That was quite sincerely my hope.
I was wrong to even try. There are other places to ask questions and expect sensible, on-topic answers.
Fair enough!
I see that steroids may be used to treat Parkinsons.
That's a good point. I had looked upon his relatively recent neuroticism as an issue in itself but it is odd following his preferred macho image where he was anything but neurotic. It would make sense that there is a real health concern driving it.
Here's an article from 2020 from that bastion of top journalism The Sun
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/132534...gency-surgery/
Other stuff on Google as well.
Thanks.
That cancer (if that’s what it was) was 2 years ago. Surprised no further signs, chemo etc.
When I saw him on TV last week my first two thoughts were surgery or illness. The latter was my gut and seemed like a plausible link to someone acting wrecklessly.
Sent from my CLT-L09 using TZ-UK mobile app
Christ..wrong thread sorry
I'd say that his face has become significantly puffier and rounder in that time, ostensibly suggesting increased and/or ongoing doses of steroids (which I am aware may be given alongside chemo or other treatments).
However, we're working on very limited information and guesswork: It might not be cancer. I am sure he has some sort of physical health issue but the other one people seem to be talking about is Parkinsons, and I think that that would fit, including timeframes.
Let’s all hope it’s cancer
If hes on track to pop his clogs anytime soon then that might be even more worrying.
The brain tumor is growing...
I said this to a few friends and family.
"What if his Doctor has said he has terminal cancer"
He wouldn't care much about his health or......?.
He does seem to care a great deal about his health, to the point of possible neurosis.
So he's seemingly not ready to go out in a blaze of glory yet.
When I saw him recently I couldn't help but think of..
Is he related to Ras Putin?
Hah!
Perhaps he will be embalmed and displayed like Lenin?
He might be crackers, but I’d be happy to be in that shape at 70.
I doubt even Vlad would have started this type of thread in the G&D.
And all just opinions from all of us.
Now you’re getting a bit political.
Yes, indeed.
Strictly personality, not politics. :-)
Any relations (health-wise) with asymmetric way he moves his arms when he walks?
I'm not a doctor but I think that either Parkinsons or a brain tumour could fit that. Same as his reported twitching.
What do you mean?
Walking footage below.
Last edited by studly; 27th February 2022 at 01:39.
Has ‘always’ walked like this, known as gunslinger’s gait.
https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h6141
Conclusions We propose that this new gait pattern, which we term “gunslinger’s gait,” may result from a behavioural adaptation, possibly triggered by KGB or other forms of weapons training where trainees are taught to keep their right hand close to the chest while walking, allowing them to quickly draw a gun when faced with a foe. This should be included in the differential diagnosis of a unilaterally reduced arm swing.
I'm assuming with that walking style he's just keeping the movement in his watch wound
Last edited by Dean Learner; 27th February 2022 at 06:14.
Malignant NPD is both fascinating and deeply concerning, I have experience of it and hence spent way too much time over thecyears trying to understand it fully to give me a better grasp.
This gent is excellent at defining the behaviours of Malignant Narcissist with a sprinkling of psychopathy..
If you get bored start at 11.00 ish but this explanation sprung to mind when i think of Vlad.
Is that photo reversed? Usually wears on right wrist.I'm assuming with that walking style he's just keeping the movement in his watch wound
He's on the news now, and yes, right wrist.
Last edited by Ruggertech; 27th February 2022 at 20:30.
Would go with a dementia related illness, seems to be seeing threats which don't exist, which I've seen with friends and family with such conditions.
More and more he reminds me of Napoleon. I think it will end for Putin, like him also.
“Take time to deliberate, but when the time for action comes, stop thinking and go in.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte
Posting Permissions
