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    I've learned to tell the time at last.

    I have put my old Rolex 1655 Explorer11 on my wrist after a considerable lapse in time.

    This is very much a marmite model, some people love it and others regard it as useless due to its infamous "disco dial" that takes a while to master if you want to tell the time immediately without having to concentrate on it.

    This is a pic I pinched from the internet of the model.

    https://bulangandsons.com/products/r...dial-1655-w841

    Mine has the black numerals on the bezel which are about 99% worn out and the local Rolex AD goes ape if I ever even enquire about replacing the bezel with a new one. He literally scolds me saying keep it original for goodness sake. I bought this one some time in 2015 and initially the disco dial did my head in as there was always a 50% chance of me being two and a half minutes out when quickly telling the time. Also I agonised about replacing the worn out bezel as it makes the watch look older and more knackered than me.

    Roll on six and a half years later and even though I have only worn the watch for a couple of days much to my surprise I seemed to have, at long last, mastered the art of quickly reading the disco dial without making a mistake. That is somewhat a mixed blessing because it is often said that mastering the disco dial can only be done after having addled your brain. Therefore I happily accept that my brain is addled.

    The time keeping is absolutely spot on, it never seems to lose or gain time which is not bad for a 1980 mechanical watch.

    Also I am now at peace with the worn out bezel, the urge to renew it is no longer there and I just feel totally bonded to it. I think after nearly 40 years on poncing about with watches I have finally found my daily beater and it's a nice feeling.

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    Can’t you post a picture of your own watch?
    Last edited by seabiscuit; 9th January 2022 at 13:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Can’t you post a picture or your own watch?
    Don't be silly, the forum's resident contrarian doesn't conform to such base conventions.

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    Explorer 2 not 11 BTW.

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    I've learned to tell the time at last.

    Not sure how that would be a confusing watch to tell the time on. Very clear and legible to me
    This on the other hand,



    I love a 24 hour dial but after wearing a standard watch it takes a readjusting of the brain to tell the time at a glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Explorer 2 not 11 BTW.
    Some other pedant once told me it was the other way round so it's a case of not being able to please all of you for all of the time.

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    OP, glad to hear you've finally bonded, enjoy your new daily beater - even if at the cost of an addled brain. The 24hr hand has too much prominence for my taste, my eyes go there directly, which I don't find which the current model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Explorer 2 not 11 BTW.
    Explorer II not 2 BTW. Ooops...
    https://www.miltonaires.com/4543/the...s-foot-variant
    https://www.rolex.com/watches/explor...6570-0001.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Not sure how that would be a confusing watch to tell the time on. Very clear and legible to me
    This on the other hand,

    I love a 24 hour dial but after wearing a standard watch it takes a readjusting of the brain to tell the time at a glance.
    If you find reading the disco dial easy, that's a good reason to buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Can’t you post a picture of your own watch?
    Advised not to on security grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    What utter nonesense.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    What utter nonesense.
    I trust the person who advised me more than I trust you.

    If you are happy posting pics, then fine. I have been advised not to, so I won't.

    I think that's easy enough to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    I trust the person who advised me more than I trust you.

    If you are happy posting pics, then fine. I have been advised not to, so I won't.

    I think that's easy enough to understand.
    Of course - I understand you perfectly, as do most on here.

    I am not asking you to trust me - why would I.

    Your pomposity knows no bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    OP, glad to hear you've finally bonded, enjoy your new daily beater - even if at the cost of an addled brain. The 24hr hand has too much prominence for my taste, my eyes go there directly, which I don't find which the current model.


    Explorer II not 2 BTW. Ooops...
    https://www.miltonaires.com/4543/the...s-foot-variant
    https://www.rolex.com/watches/explor...6570-0001.html
    II =/= 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    I trust the person who advised me more than I trust you.

    If you are happy posting pics, then fine. I have been advised not to, so I won't.

    I think that's easy enough to understand.
    Jesus Christ, what a crock of old b*****ks. I don't know why people rise to your bait Mick. I don't know why I'm rising to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    Or perhaps you don’t own the watches you say you do?

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    Each to his own, I don’t like anything with a two hour hands, dislike working on the damned things too. Always seems pointless to me and spoils the symmetry of the dial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Hotel View Post
    Jesus Christ, what a crock of old b*****ks. I don't know why people rise to your bait Mick. I don't know why I'm rising to it.
    OK - If you genuinely believe I am trolling or whatever, I will stay from contributing to the forum. It just is not worth the hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    Whilst I fully accept that photographing the serial number of a watch and posting it is a bad idea, I know of no good reason not to post photos of watches at all. I’m therefore moved to say that this is twaddle, Mick.

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    Oh, and I’m struggling to understand why that dial is remotely difficult to read. Maybe it’s the self-confessed addling that caused the problem originally?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    Not sure how that would be a confusing watch to tell the time on. Very clear and legible to me
    This on the other hand,



    I love a 24 hour dial but after wearing a standard watch it takes a readjusting of the brain to tell the time at a glance.
    Love that, really do like a 24hour dial the only brand I can think of is Glycine who still do it but their watches which seem once so common to buy have dried up recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    I’ve said it before but If you’re that concerned just take a screenshot and upload the screenshot instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Can’t you post a picture of your own watch?
    Its ok Mick I mentally pictured the watch so didnt need a pic.
    Were I at odds as to what it actually is Google would show me.


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    This is Mick's -


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Some other pedant once told me it was the other way round so it's a case of not being able to please all of you for all of the time.
    They probably told you it was II, not 11.

    Quote Originally Posted by jukeboxs View Post
    OP, glad to hear you've finally bonded, enjoy your new daily beater - even if at the cost of an addled brain. The 24hr hand has too much prominence for my taste, my eyes go there directly, which I don't find which the current model.


    Explorer II not 2 BTW. Ooops...
    https://www.miltonaires.com/4543/the...s-foot-variant
    https://www.rolex.com/watches/explor...6570-0001.html
    Don't see anything wrong with calling it 2, just a different representation of the same number. 10 in binary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Kenney View Post
    This is Mick's -

    You fool! Now Mick is at risk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    You fool! Now Mick is at risk!
    It's ok. He's been taken into protective custody
































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    ^^^
    :rofl:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    The gift that keeps...
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

    'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    The gift that keeps...


    Making things up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    I’m genuinely curious here and pose this to the wider group; we see all sorts of high value watches here so what possible rationale could there be if it’s a picture of the watch with no sensitive detail (serial numbers etc.) visible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    I’m genuinely curious here and pose this to the wider group; we see all sorts of high value watches here so what possible rationale could there be if it’s a picture of the watch with no sensitive detail (serial numbers etc.) visible?
    It's Mick P, all semblance of logic ends there.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    I’m genuinely curious here and pose this to the wider group; we see all sorts of high value watches here so what possible rationale could there be if it’s a picture of the watch with no sensitive detail (serial numbers etc.) visible?
    It is possible to find the location the picture was taken, which obviously can give away an address where presumably the watch is stored.

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    I think Mick P shares the same advisor as Prince Andrew: "Tell them you can't sweat..... Oh and yeah, tell them you were at Pizza Hut at the time.... oh and never post photos of your watches on a watch forum especially when you're pointing out a legibility issue...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    It is possible to find the location the picture was taken, which obviously can give away an address where presumably the watch is stored.
    They can tell where you are from what your kitchen worktop surface looks like?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Chilli View Post
    It is possible to find the location the picture was taken, which obviously can give away an address where presumably the watch is stored.
    So it’s as simple as removing this data before uploading?

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    Geolocation metadata was a bit of an issue a few years back but isn't enabled by default theses days.
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    Why would an elderly postman want a watch that was designed for Speleologists?
    Last edited by ODP; 9th January 2022 at 18:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    Advised not to on security grounds.
    Seriously, surely the advise was based on the principal of not letting people aware you own the watch. You’ve already done that!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick P View Post
    … I will stay from contributing to the forum. It just is not worth the hassle.
    Yes!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ODP View Post
    Why would an elderly postman want a watch that was designed for Speleologists?
    It’s dark in a post box.

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    Mick does seem to cop for some forum challenge on his views, I have noticed this on nearly every post he makes, so certainly an element of self infliction going on....

    But on the initial point of a 1655 being difficult to read at first glance, I do agree !

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    Following this thread just for the comedy - absolute gold!


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    Don't be so quick to say there's no risk associated with sharing photos. The risk can be mitigated, but it does exist.

    Many cameras and phones will capture geographic data in a photo. That's how your phone knows to label the album 'New York' or Google Images allows you to search for a place within your own image album and it'll find all the photos tagged as taken in that place. It's useful tech, but it represents a risk when sharing photos online of valuables.

    Many (most perhaps?) image hosts strip this info for that exact reason, hence removing the risk, as it's not the original file available to download. But I can absolutely see why someone would say it may be unsafe to take an image of multiple expensive watches on your phone and then send those images to a group of strangers. Worse case scenario you're pretty much saying here's the exact place I live and here's the valuables to target.

    Again I stress, if you're using an image host this is very likely to be resolved for you (for example image hosts could be 3rd party sites like Imgur or even direct uploads to forums who then 'host' the image - but always check by downloading a photo you've uploaded and seeing what info is available!). Unless of course you don't trust the host. But if you were to email the original photo to someone on the internet, then the geo location data is going to still be there (if originally captured) unless you explicitly remove it before sending.

    TLDR: the risk is easily mitigated, but it's still worth being aware of the risk
    Last edited by M1011; 9th January 2022 at 22:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    So it’s as simple as removing this data before uploading?
    Yes and no. Exif data is the easiest and quickest way, but not the only way.

    It is however highly unlikely that a criminal would use the other ways, or have the skill to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    They can tell where you are from what your kitchen worktop surface looks like?!

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    Trade craft exposed right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    So it’s as simple as removing this data before uploading?
    Exactly.

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    What fresh hell is this?

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