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    Tesla Info Thread.

    God only knows where this will go but with so many current owners on TZ and by the looks, many coming over the hill, I thought a one point stop for lease deals, tips, tricks and general info and moans may be useful and entertaining.

    I am sure the brand bashes and EV haters may pop up but hopefully they will move on.

    Anyway, first tip and stolen from FB, 15 months in and I didnít even know this.

    Todayís TOP TIP:

    Along the bottom bar of your screen, towards the left are the two window heating icons. The furthest squarer one heats the rear window but did you know it also demists/heats your wing mirrors?
    The next icon is for heating the windscreen but did you know it has two settings? Press it once (the icon goes partly orange) and it de-mists your windscreen, press it again (the icon goes fully orange) and it de-frosts

    Enjoy

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    Thanks Pitch,

    I'll watch this thread with interest, and contribute when I can, after I collect my car on the 15th.

    Best wishes,
    Martyn.

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    Our next car will be an EV so will watch this thread with interest

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    Thereís an interesting series of comparisons in the latest What Car mag between different versions (diesel, petrol, hybrid etc) of various classes of cars with full costs assessed over 3 years.

    The Tesla 3 is matched against versions of the BMW 3-Series and, despite the higher purchase price, ends up nearly £2k cheaper over that period than the cheapest BMW version.

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    Anyone getting a standard Model 3 wait a few days until after software update and you'll get the heated steering wheel and rear seats gratis.

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    Things I've learned in my few days so far:

    1. Definitely set your phone up as a key, scheduling charging, preheating, location finding, have all come in handy already.
    2. If you share the car, make sure you set up driver profiles - absolutely amazing how many customisations are available in the settings and to have it all exactly as you like every time is great (except lumbar support)
    3. Haven't quite figured out the base autopilot/TACC yet
    4. I personally find the rearview mirror/rear visibility pretty pants
    5. The sound system is top banana
    6. The steering is really satisfying, with very tight turning circle and small steering wheel, you don't even need to go fast to have fun...
    7... But it goes really fast and that's fun too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon8oy View Post
    Things I've learned in my few days so far:

    1. Definitely set your phone up as a key, scheduling charging, preheating, location finding, have all come in handy already.
    In addition to this, also carry the key card in your wallet or somewhere.

    If your phone goes flat or gets lost/stolen youíll be glad!

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    Great idea for a thread Pitch. Thanks for the initial tip, mine arrives later this week !

    Seems like TZ has gone Model 3 crazy in recent weeks.

    I don't have any tips. Perhaps except to say that you can take the aero caps off and buy something like this which will give you the spoke look if you should prefer that. I will probably do this eventually. Not 100% sure how it works, but will report back when I do it. I believe Wileeeeeey is also planning to do this so may add info !

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wheel-Cover.../dp/B094VL7GZN

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    Thanks, yes I saw that a few hundred people got locked out as the app went down the other week - so I slipped keycard straight into my wallet! As you say, gives me insurance as I never go anywhere without my wallet.

    I did find another bugbear - my two kids have car seats, both isofix. My son is older so the main seatbelt is still used to secure him in his seat. However my daughter has a car seat with integrated straps, therefore with isofix no need to plug in seatbelt. As it turns out, that leads to constant 'bongs' whilst driving with her in the car as it detects she's there but thinks she's now wearing a seatbelt. Apparently in the US you can tap on the icon that appears on the screen and set the seat to 'car seat mode'. As a workaround I've just had to feed the seatbelt through and plug it in, no big deal but a bit unnecessary when you know the feature exists.

    Edited to add that Tesla Motor Club UK&I subforum has been pretty good for tips and help, not quite TZ but there's a few of us over there!

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    Great thread and looking forward to being able to contribute.

    Sold my missus Ford Ranger and purchased her a Model 3.
    So far, all we have is a charger in a box :)

    Car is coming in March, so we have quite a wait!

    Interestingly (although OT), Rangers are in short supply and we sold it back to the dealer early. Paid £29k +vat, kept for 4 years, sold for £22k +vat. Which I thought was amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drmarkf View Post
    Thereís an interesting series of comparisons in the latest What Car mag between different versions (diesel, petrol, hybrid etc) of various classes of cars with full costs assessed over 3 years.

    The Tesla 3 is matched against versions of the BMW 3-Series and, despite the higher purchase price, ends up nearly £2k cheaper over that period than the cheapest BMW version.
    What the comparison is missing though is that on most cars you get a decent discount on the RRP - not so with Tesla.

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    Great thread Pitch. Really useful.

    I saw online putting your car into ďJoe ModeĒ makes the constant beeping a bit quieter so will do that when Iím next in it. The beeping in Tesla is more vicious than the Bear Pit!

    I did buy the wheel things Boss pasted but havenít had a chance to put them on yet due to the rain. Will report back once Iíve done it.

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    Nice one - & I have a question:

    is there any way to extinguish the rear brake lights in a M3 when coming to a stop without going into Neutral or Park?

    My pet hate is following people in traffic who blind me with their rear brake lights when at a standstill & I am now contributing to it!

    Any info appreciated!

    Cheers

    Paul

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    Another tip - this time of year use the voice command 'ho ho ho'. You'll thank me later! :)

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    Buy the optional Tesla car shaped keyless entry key, it's much less flaky than the app on your phone and the car is always open when you get to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Buy the optional Tesla car shaped keyless entry key, it's much less flaky than the app on your phone and the car is always open when you get to it
    For £150, I'm happy with my phone - I dont find it flaky at all & ALWAYS have my phone with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul360m View Post
    For £150, I'm happy with my phone - I dont find it flaky at all & ALWAYS have my phone with me
    Not my experience of Tesla ownership, I'd often walk up to the car and it would still be locked, then I'd have to get my phone out and open the app to unlock it, £150 is peanuts to solve this problem

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    Goodo chaps and looks like this thread could be very useful.

    The app has got grumpy at times with the odd new update and I have on a few occasions had to get my iPhone out. I liked the idea of the key so thought I would give it a go a few weeks ago. It is still in the box.

    Another nice touch is the temp control, you can touch and slide across the screen rather than tapping.

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    I'm a couple of days into ownership and still happy with it.

    There's a bit of a learning curve using the screen. It's not always immediately obvious where things are, but a few presses later I can usually find what I need. Except DAB, I think I have DAB, but can only find FM. I got Radio 5 on InTune, but I assume that runs on internet which is not guaranteed where I drive.

    Other car is a AMG GLC and in many ways the Tesla is superior and in many way it's behind.

    The acceleration, cost to run, and entertainment features are all miles ahead. I also like the sparse interior, the glass and they keyless system linked up to driver profiles.

    I could make a list of stuff that's not as good.

    The steering is stiff (comfort mode) and doesn't have much feel.
    The auto dipping headlights are slow to dip and slow to turn off. It's embarrassing being flashed for being late to dip.
    The brakes aren't great, admittedly I'm probably spoiled by AMG brakes, but there's not a lot of bite and you really feel the weight of the car through them.
    The GPS has repeatedly taken me on routes that a closed. I know it uses Google, but the Google Maps on my phone does it right, so I don't know the issue.

    I guess this is because, regardless of the cost, this is still a mid range family car and I'm probably being harsh comparing it against an AMG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Not my experience of Tesla ownership, I'd often walk up to the car and it would still be locked, then I'd have to get my phone out and open the app to unlock it, £150 is peanuts to solve this problem
    Our car came only with the black Tesla RFID cards, I have one inside my phone case in case the phone or Tesla App go down. Even in the case of the latter, as long as you donít log out of it, the phone still works.

    Havenít had any issues with the car not detecting the phone and not open up.

    Carrying one of the RFID cards is even fewer peanuts than the peanuts for a car shaped key!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooks View Post
    Our car came only with the black Tesla RFID cards, I have one inside my phone case in case the phone or Tesla App go down. Even in the case of the latter, as long as you don’t log out of it, the phone still works.

    Haven’t had any issues with the car not detecting the phone and not open up.

    Carrying one of the RFID cards is even fewer peanuts than the peanuts for a car shaped key!
    I have the RFID cards as well but they're not comparable to the keyless entry key, each to their own but on a 60k car I don't begrudge paying £150 for a proper key that probably should have been included anyway, maybe things have got better on subsequent software releases but I've had my M3P since Sep 2020 and the app on the iPhone was fairly unreliable then to open the car as you approached it. Failed about 1 in 10 I found

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    Heated seats and steering wheel are here. Thanks Ryan for the headís up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Heated seats and steering wheel are here. Thanks Ryan for the headís up.
    Boom! Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Heated seats and steering wheel are here. Thanks Ryan for the headís up.
    So you could have paid ďs**t loads for that but it simply downloaded on an update overnight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky Four Fingers View Post
    So you could have paid ďs**t loads for that but it simply downloaded on an update overnight?
    Looks that way yeah

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    This text is getting sent out to people picking up their cars in the next week (myself included);

    Due to the global supply chain challenges impacting the industry, your Model 3 maybe delivered without the two usb-c ports and wireless charging functionality in the front of your vehicle. You will be able to charge your phone with the USBC ports in the back of your vehicle. Once available, we will invite you to a service appointment to retrofit the ports and activate the wireless phone charging functionality. The 10 minute appointment can be scheduled at your home address.

    Lots of frothing about this and some plonkers saying they'll reject the car! Lol. At least Tesla are offering to retrofit unlike BMW that isn't offering touchscreens or Merc without electric seats. It's a bit annoying but by all accounts there is a global chip shortage. Who knew?

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    Their text systems do seem a mess to be honest. Have had so many texts. Many of them repeats ! Weather delay meaning delivery delay. Was late to find out the registration and vin but since they have sent me the same text three times telling me the info.

    They asked me where I wanted it delivered around four times! I replied each time.

    Havenít had the one about the USB yet but perhaps will get it soon All part of the fun I guess !!!

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    I have a dog and kids and lots of sports kit, so have assumed the model 3 with a boot wouldn't work.

    Apparently you can now order a model Y that's like a 3 but a hatchback.

    Anyone any thoughts on this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxnick1975 View Post
    I have a dog and kids and lots of sports kit, so have assumed the model 3 with a boot wouldn't work.

    Apparently you can now order a model Y that's like a 3 but a hatchback.

    Anyone any thoughts on this one?

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    If the dog would go in the boot then the 3 is a no go but the Y would be perfect. Looking at Feb delivery;

    https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/modely/design#overview

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    Does anyone know if there a difference between my wife and I sharing the same email/Tesla account on the app vs us using our own emails and having the other added on the ďadd additional driverĒ section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Does anyone know if there a difference between my wife and I sharing the same email/Tesla account on the app vs us using our own emails and having the other added on the ďadd additional driverĒ section?
    Doesnt make any difference as long as you both dont try to use it at the same time!

    But if your wife sets up her own profile, then seat/wheel settings will be specifically hers when she jumps in........(i think!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    Havenít had the one about the USB yet but perhaps will get it soon All part of the fun I guess !!!
    As anticipated had the lack of USB ports text today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul360m View Post
    Doesnt make any difference as long as you both dont try to use it at the same time!

    But if your wife sets up her own profile, then seat/wheel settings will be specifically hers when she jumps in........(i think!)
    Ok cool, just gave myself a new account and went out to set it up along with naming the key cards. Will see if it works later on.

    I have wireless charging and AFAI working USBs, but I donít have the bigger range so far. Hoping this is a software update to unlock more potential.

    I lost 9 miles over range overnight and asked a friend if this was normal. Immediately he knew I had Sentry on and told me to turn it off at home. He loses 1-2 miles overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    As anticipated had the lack of USB ports text today!
    When do you pick up the car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post

    When do you pick up the car?
    Mine is being delivered in the next couple of days. You?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    Mine is being delivered in the next couple of days. You?
    Pick up Saturday

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    I drove a model 3 today, a work colleague just got his. Never been in one before, the interior is very bland apart from the huge screen but was a comfy place to sit. The heated steering wheel was very good! Driving it was nice, the acceleration was good - did not seem as powerful as I thought but that's maybe as it was so quiet and you had no other sense of speed - I do drive a M240 which is pretty quick so maybe I am use to a quick-ish car. Overall the car was impressive, was not overly sold on the braking, also it braked fairly hard once you came off the accelerator pedal but he said you can turn that off.

    Would I buy one? Still no, for a personal car its way to expensive for what it is. As a company car (which his was) it does make total sense, he recons it will save him (and the company) many thousands compared to his previous ICE car.

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    Seeing a few videos online of Americans who are able to use their Tesla like a Ring Doorbell. They can view all the Tesla cameras and even speak.

    Is this an American update only or does anyone here have this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Seeing a few videos online of Americans who are able to use their Tesla like a Ring Doorbell. They can view all the Tesla cameras and even speak.

    Is this an American update only or does anyone here have this?
    That's Remote Sentry. US only currently but coming here also.

    Have you played about with Boombox yet?

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    Here are some Tesla anacronyms I've lifted from a Tesla Facebook Group;

    For the new and soon to be owners: Hereís a basic list of Tesla/EV acronyms that get bandied about.

    2FA - Two-Factor Authentication. (Important: Make sure your Tesla account has this facility enabled)
    AP - Autopilot
    AP1 - Autopilot hardware manufactured after late September 2014 and before October 2016
    AP2 - Autopilot hardware manufactured after October 2016 and before August 2017
    AP2.5 - Autopilot hardware manufactured after August 2017 and by Hardware 3
    AP3 - Autopilot hardware manufactured in/after February 2019 for Model S / Model X, and in/after April 2019 for Model 3
    AWD - All-wheel Drive
    BEV - Battery Electric Vehicle
    BLE - Bluetooth Low Energy
    BMS - Battery Management System
    CAV - Clean Air Vehicles
    CCS - Combined Charging System
    CPO - Certified Pre-Owned
    CR - Consumer Reports
    D/C - Direct Current
    DC - Destination Charger
    EAP - Enhanced Autopilot
    EBS - Emergency Braking System
    ECU - Electric Control Unit
    EPA - Environmental Protection Agency (rated mileage)
    EV - Electric Vehicle
    EVSE - Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment
    FPS - Frames Per Second
    Fremont - Where U.K. Model 3 was manufactured before China
    Fremont Classic - An American made U.K. Model 3
    Frunk - Not exactly an acronym butÖ Front Trunk
    Froot - For those who refuse to use FrunkÖ Front Boot
    FSD - Full Self-Driving
    Giga 1 - Gigafactory 1 in Nevada
    HW2 - Autopilot Hardware 2
    HW2+ - Autopilot Hardware version 2 and after
    HW2.5 - Autopilot Hardware version 2.5
    HW3 - Autopilot Hardware version 3
    HOV - High-Occupancy Vehicle
    IC - Instrument Cluster, the screen above the steering wheel
    ICE - Internal Combustion Engine. A popular way of referring to petrol cars in the Tesla communities
    ICED - refers to a petrol car blocking an EV charger
    IR - Infrared Radiation
    kWh - Kilowatt an hour (kilo=1,000; 1kWh = 3-4 mile range)
    LPF - Lithium Iron Battery
    LR - Long Range
    LTE - Long Term Evolution or 4G network
    OA - Owner Advisor
    OTA - Over-the-air
    P3D - Performance Model 3 Dual Motor
    M3 - Model 3
    M3P - Model 3 Performance
    MCU - Media Control Unit (touchscreen)
    MCU 1 - Has an NVIDIA Tegra-3 chip. All Model S and Model X built before the end of March 2018 have this version.
    MCU 2 - Has a more powerful Intel x86_64 processor. All Model 3 have this version as well as the Model S and Model X built after the end of March 2018.
    MiC - Made in China
    MIT-AVT - MIT Autonomous Vehicle Technology Study
    MR - Medium Range
    MS - Model S
    MX - Model X
    MY - Model Y
    MSM - Midnight Silver Metallic - Teslaís Dark Grey
    NN - Neural Network. Is the software in charge of identifying objects around the car
    NoA - Navigate on Autopilot
    P2D - Pin To Drive (Important make sure you car has this enabled)
    PPF - Paint Protection Film
    PIV - Plug In Vehicle
    PUP - Performance Upgrade Package
    R/F - Refreshed (Model 3 delivered after Dec. 1st 2020
    RPH - Range Per Charge (miles)
    RWD - Rear-Wheel Drive
    SC - Service Centre
    SR+ - Standard Range Plus
    SoC - State of Charge
    SuC - Supercharger
    TACC - Traffic-Aware Cruise Control
    TMC - Tesla Motors Club
    TPMS - Tire Pressure Monitoring System
    UI - User Interface (the screen)
    ULEZ - Ultra Low Emission Zone
    V9 - Version 9
    VIN - Vehicle Identification Number
    WLTP - Worldwide Harmonized Light Test Procedure (rated mileage)
    ZEV - Zero Emission Vehicles

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    Pro tip. If you are looking for Tesla tips and reviews, do it incognito.

    Elon has some absolutely crazy acolytes and once youtube and facebook think you're into Teslas you can kiss goodbye to meaningful recommendations.

    Rear visibility definitely sucks. A car was following me last night, perhaps a little closer than I'd like and in the dark, in town I struggled to see it though a rain splattered boot window.

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    The Tesla Model 3 UK Owners FB page has been my go to from day 1, loads of info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guinea View Post
    Pro tip. If you are looking for Tesla tips and reviews, do it incognito.

    Elon has some absolutely crazy acolytes and once youtube and facebook think you're into Teslas you can kiss goodbye to meaningful recommendations.

    Rear visibility definitely sucks. A car was following me last night, perhaps a little closer than I'd like and in the dark, in town I struggled to see it though a rain splattered boot window.
    You can set the rear camera to run though and see behind you that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    You can set the rear camera to run though and see behind you that way
    I also kick Ďem in when pulling onto dual carriageway, also get into the habit of just wiping the rear facing wing ones.

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    Some more Tesla terminology;


    Unicorn Spec - transitional SR+ cars with the old faster engine and new bigger battery

    #teamwhite #team blue etc - the colour car you got

    Muggles - non Tesla EVs charging at Superchargers (currently only in the Netherlands)

    Granny Charger - standard 3 pin charger that plugs into a wall socket and chargers very slowly (maybe 6 miles per hour range added).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    You can set the rear camera to run though and see behind you that way
    It gets pretty dirty pretty quickly on our M3, they should have implemented some kind of system on it to keep it clean.

    The ID.3 camera is under the tailgate badge and when activated a sort of eyelid wipes it clean, quite a neat system.

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    I spent quite a bit of time deciding on the Model 3, prior to that I was considering a used Model S. This website I found to be an incredible resource for historical information and it even has mail alerts you can set up should you be on the lookout to purchase a used Tesla https://tesla-info.com/ (no affiliation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    That's Remote Sentry. US only currently but coming here also.

    Have you played about with Boombox yet?
    Yeah, played the fart noise inside and outside. Scared the life out of my wife, quite funny. Tempted by a meme horn, really tempted. Also had a play today with the sound settings and brought in a bit more sound from the rear speakers.

    Around town itís a great car, seriously good. Bit rough on the bumps but a very good drive. Honestly reminds me a bit of the motorbike how I can make lights and get out at roundabouts and junctions - rapid. Quite loud on the motorway, you can see how people make a good living from putting sound insulation into Teslas and why the Model S is recommended more for mile munching.

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    How everyone getting on with their new wheels????

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    Absolutely loving it!! Have checked out the charging stations which work well. The car is smooth and comfortable and feels as premium as it needs to.

    Still learning all the features but I can see why current owners are so pleased.

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