My son was I’ll last week but had Covid a couple of months ago, so I knew he had a heavy cold as it was too soon for a repeat of COVID.
So when I caught it I just assumed I had caught the same heavy cold, and because there were lots of fluids and COVID is usually dry, I just assumed I didn’t have Covid.
Then my wife catches it and she is bad with it, so we both tested and we have covid. Sorry to say that I have been at work, meetings on the train all week, so looks like I have contributed to continuing to infect people.
Hopefully I have not done too much damage and it all contributes to herd immunity.
My wife really is not well. Not serious, but still as unwell as you can be without it seeming serious. And she is triple jabbed.
Felt quite unwell in work on Tue night, and two colleagues positive, but tested negative on wed morning. Felt worse on wed night in work, and hey ho a double line on Thu morning. Two more colleagues also positive.
Felt really bad for first couple of days, being isolated in bed room doesn't help, but this morning I feel on the upswing. Hopefully I will test negative on sun and Mon, so can enjoy the last day of FOF in Belfast.
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A group of us went to Vegas in March and fully expected to get covid. St Patrick’s day down Fremont Street was by far the busiest I’d ever seen and we were convinced we’d get it.
None of us did but bizarrely 3 weeks later back home half the group get covid including my wife. My 5 year old get it but I do tax I stay away from them and two weeks later I get it. Strange how it works.
I had a couple of rough days followed by 4 or 5 of not feeling great but okay. I’ve a couple of health issues so am just glad I’m triple jabbed.
Resurrecting the thread to remind all that it’s still alive and well. I know this as me and the Mrs who have been feeling under the weather for the past week decided to take a test today. Both positive. Just thought I had a lousy cold or something - no breathing issues or temp or loss of taste / smell. Resistance is futile, so it seems…
I had my 5th vaccination last week, and the Doc said that the latest guidance is that no more should be needed.
Just had an e-mail to offer me another booster, my medical history has put me on 'ze list', I'll take it next week because I do believe it makes sense. I`m hardly hearing of anyone getting Covid thesedays but that's no reason for complacency.
I've had it recently and it was a bastard. Short lived, but a bastard nonetheless. The current variant adds joys such as muscle pains and morning fatigue (regardless of how well you slept), and in kids pink-eye and conjunctivitis are now common symptoms. I had four rough days, and then a few more with fairly normal cold symptoms.
I think the days of it being life threatening to the majority of people are over, and the benefits of being vaccinated are there to see, but it's still capable of being much more than a cold.
Had almost identical symptoms from it with the added joy of a horrible chesty cough for 3 or 4 weeks. First and only time I had it. Her indoors had it just afterwards and just like a mild cold. No rhyme nor reason to it. I'm fully jabbed and wonder how much worse it would have been without it? Was hoping next time might be easier, but reading that some people have it even worse the second and third time!
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Her indoors has been off it with heavy cold symptoms for a month. I picked something up for the last 2 weeks but nothing like as bad. Both just tired now.
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The wife and I have never contracted covid, we were lucky that we spent 8 months in Spain when it was on lockdown which was much stricter than in the UK and as a result, Andalucia had one of the lowest infection rates in Europe. One thing I did notice when returning to the UK in the autumn of 2020 was that the Brits just wanted to get back to normality and hence they behaved as if if did not exist and expected to catch the virus sometime and were not worried as they thought it no worse that a common cold.
This resulted in foolish behaviour which still happens. You can go into squashed up theatres and football stadiums etc shoulder to shoulder which is plain risky. I would not dream of doing it. There is now now spacing in supermarkets and my wife and I still keep our distance as much as we can. You still have to think that everyone you do not know is a bug carrier and that is why we have been covid free.
Also we are fully vaccinated.
That describes it very well. In reality it can be way worse than a common cold, it just tends not to be bad enough to want to back to lockdowns and restrictions. I had it for the third time in March, a week of headache, a week of more intense symptoms, milder than the previous two times, but followed by several weeks of intense brain fog and tiredness, among many other annoyances. I’d say six weeks from catching it to feeling fully back to normal. I think we’d all like to get on with our lives at this point but it’s not necessary to pretend it’s just a cold, it can still be a massive pain in the arse unfortunately. I’ve had people assume I’d do Zoom meetings with a temperature of 39 degrees, because it’s ‘only covid’!
Which for most people it is.
As you know being “fully jabbed” doesn’t stop you getting it or spreading it. Plenty of debates as to actually what it does as, most people that die “with it” have also been “fully jabbed”….and let’s not talk about the side effects.
I’ve had three jabs and had Covid, so I won’t be having any more jabs and let my body deal with a virus as it does with any other virus.
I can understand the most vulnerable being cautious but, I believe the majority of the population have nothing to worry about (and never have).
Still a massive difference between the West and Asia. Was in Thailand and Korea a couple of weeks ago - Korea in particular was acting as if Covid was Ebola with masks everywhere. Thailand also with a lot of mask wearing in shopping centres etc. I appreciate of course that mask wearing is fairly normal in Asia - Chiang Mai was 47 degrees Celsius so wearing a mask was not exactly a fun exercise and those countries don't have big outbreaks.
That being said I took my son to hospital yesterday to have leg plasters removed and wore a mask - obviously there are a lot of clinically vulnerable people in hospitals so that's common sense and to be honest even if there was zero Covid it still makes sense to wear a mask in hospitals to protect the most vulnerable as even a cold could kill a very unwell person.
For all of you getting endless bouts of Covid despite endless boosters, this paper attempts to explain why: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798 For the first time ever they say, a vaccine seems to boost the IG4 and suppress the IG1, 2 & 3. IG4 normalises the immune system to being repeatedly infected whilst IG1, 2 & 3 are tasked to fight infections.
If this is true, then it needs to be widely known about. If it has been debunked or superceded, then happy to read any alternatives from you.
What, you mean this needs to be known about?
In our study, antibody-mediated phagocytic activity and complement deposition were reduced in sera after the third immunization, in parallel to higher proportions of anti-spike IgG4 antibodies. However, how these changes affect subsequent virus infections remains unclear. Because Fc-mediated effector function could be critical for viral clearance, an increase in IgG4 subclasses might result in longer viral persistence in case of infection. However, it is also conceivable that noninflammatory Fc-mediated effector functions reduce immunopathology, whereas virus is still being neutralized via high-avidity antibody variable regions. In a cohort of vaccinees with breakthrough infections, we did not obtain any evidence for an alteration of disease severity, which was mild in almost all of our cases.
Has anybody translated that into English?
I also saw this... looks like bad news to me.
My youngest son is clinically vulnerable and is tested regularly at his adult care setting. We all had all the vaccinations as a family - I’ve now had Covid 3 times, felt pretty bad the first time and took a couple of months to feel back to normal. The next 2 times - one very recently - I wouldn’t even have known I had it if my son hadn’t tested positive. On all 3 occasions I tested positive for nearly 20 days! The work colleague I sit next to has gone down with flu like symptoms around exactly the same time I’ve been infected on the last 2 occasions, but has never tested positive even though she’s been far more ill than me. All a bit odd but I’m sure it’s still out there and a lot of people have no idea they’ve caught it. Incidentally my vulnerable son has now tested positive 3 times too, thankfully he’s never been unwell with it at all. I’m actually glad we’ve all been infected, at least we know how we react to the current variants and the vaccine seems to have done its job.
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I case you hadn't noticed, among the well vaccinated, COVID is currently about as dangerous as other betacoronovirus colds. It's only the unvaccinated who are at any real risk. While the potential for this to change exists, it's not looking likely right now. So to carry on spreading misinformation and, lets be honest, this is just misinformation passed on to you. Once again it's clear you either didn't read or understand the paper, merely the claim that it showed something scary. It doesn't. Don't you get bored of being prompted, by whatever source you use to say stuff that is misleading or just plain false. How many times does it need to happen? Or do you really think you are the heir to secret knowledge rather than just being used as a tool?
As they say:
In short, it doesn't change the effect of being infected and being infected causes the same outcome as vaccination. As such it's most likely an evolution driven optimisation that causes the body to respond in the most appropriate way to a new infection.In a cohort of vaccinees with breakthrough infections, we did not obtain any evidence for an alteration of disease severity, which was mild in almost all of our cases. Larger cohorts with differential disease severities will be needed to address this aspect in the future. However, our results demonstrate that a subsequent infection can further boost IgG4 antibody levels, with IgG4 becoming the most dominant among all anti-spike IgG subclasses in some individuals.
From all the info posted regarding Covid and vaccines, by the professionals on TZ ..I reckon I would rather listen to that tinpot lunatic plumbing business owner Rod Stewart lookalike and take his bullsh*t for granted.
Like a class reunion, this thread. All the nutjobs coming back for a final post.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
I think someone left the door to the BP open again…
Wow, what a tinfoil hat reunion!
Welcome back out of the woodwork, you hard of thinkers.
Getting back on topic (sort of), I have never knowingly had Covid. I am fully vaccinated, and have been working from home since March 2020. I have tested myself a few times, not because of symptoms, but e.g., before hospital visits. I also have not had at least a cold for three years.
Apart from not working in the office, I socialise about much as before, which admittedly was never a huge amount. But I no longer wear a mask when out and about.
So, it surprises me a bit when I read that some of you have had Covid several times. I assume this is mainly down to the number of social contacts, which for me is probably quite low. I dread ever actually catching it.
I wonder what proportion of the population are in the never had it group?
My answer to the above is - I honestly don't know.
My wife and I had a dose of something back in January. We felt ghastly, sore throats, headaches, lost our sense of taste (you should see the watches I bought!) so obviously I tested myself.
I used the cheap Chinese kits that were at one time handed out gratis.
The first test - no line at all, not even the control.
Second test - exactly the same. Crap kits - still well within their use by date.
I gave up at that stage. The Govt. advice had changed from "Remove yourself from society immediately" to "try not to infect too many people" so the two of us just hunkered down, recovered, and then returned to our usual routines.
After managing to avoid catching it, I tested positive yesterday. Started feeling rough on Friday night - it was really sudden… one minute I’m feeling good, the next, I’m feeling terrible. For me, it feels like a bad cold/flu. Some weird symptoms - my skin hurts, I have a sort of headache (but only behind my ears) and I’m sneezing quite a bit. And I’m absolutely starving all the time, which is strange. I’m fully vaccinated, so hopefully it won’t hang around too long.
Sorry to hear that, and I hope you feel better soon.
The new variant, Acturus, seems to be similar to Omicron but with "pink eye" added to the symptom list.
I've had 3 vaccinations, but won't have any more unless they are required to travel.
I've been around people who have developed COVID and either never had it or have had such mild symptoms that I've been unaware of having it.
None of my family have had it either, including my daughter who hasn't had any vaccinations.
I do know, though, a few people who've had it numerous times.
It seems, like flu, that some are less susceptible than others, both to catching it and to the effects of it
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Missus has been wacked by Covid. This is the second time. First time was a couple of years ago. I’d say the first time was worse for her as it caused breathing difficulties. This time it had just completely wiped her out.
She has been in bed for 3 days now. She just took a test to confirm it is Covid.
Everyone had forgotten about it, but it is still on the prowl.
I am sure I had it last week (although I didn’t test myself) and gave it to her as I felt like crap for a week.
I was actually back in hospital last week for 6 days after coming down with a virus that affected my asthma, literally could not get a breath.
It was quite weird that I was on the same ward that I was in when I had covid 2 years ago.
Tested but negative for covid.
I’m really struggling to get over it and we’ve cancelled all our Xmas plans because of it.
It’s still out there along with a bunch of other nasties, so just take care.
I had it a few weeks ago and it lingered for quite a while. It was far worse than the previous time I had it (back when it was fashionable). It was unpleasant then but not too bad overall.
Now just as I thought I’d be fine for Christmas I’ve got a cold. I thought I’d got COVID again but numerous negative tests and symptoms slightly different. Typical, oh well. Could be a lot worse.
Had all the vaccinations except the booster for the clinically vulnerable / at risk lot. And also had a flu one not long ago as well.
There seems to be a lot of bugs about at the moment.
Stay safe all!
Do people still buy tests for Covid?
I’m not sure why given even those in medical settings don’t test themselves any longer.
I had a few left over that work provided.
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I had a few left over that work provided.
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