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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    I know, thank you. but he is representative of a misinformed public who cannot stop from shouting *Think of the children!* every time he sees a mere SAK.

    His concept of camping -especially wild camping- is different from mine and that was fine. Here I believe he is clearly misinformed. Whether it is deliberate (aka trolling) or not is a different matter, but it is worth challenging if only for those who do not know and would like to.
    Do we have to endure accusations of trolling for holding a different opinion now?

    FWIW I have a SAK in my pocket every day ... I also have other knives specific for sailing and camping ...

    My issue is that I don't think it healthy for society that products like this are so freely available:
    https://www.knifewarehouse.co.uk/pro...-part-i-knife/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Do we have to endure accusations of trolling for holding a different opinion now?

    FWIW I have a SAK in my pocket every day ... I also have other knives specific for sailing and camping ...

    My issue is that I don't think it healthy for society that products like this are so freely available:
    https://www.knifewarehouse.co.uk/pro...-part-i-knife/
    It's extremely well known, but evidently not well known enough, that most knife crimes are committed with kitchen knives.

    Cheap and readily available on most high streets and in every kitchen.

    Making things like movie knives harder to buy isn't going to make a jot of difference to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Do we have to endure accusations of trolling for holding a different opinion now?

    FWIW I have a SAK in my pocket every day ... I also have other knives specific for sailing and camping ...

    My issue is that I don't think it healthy for society that products like this are so freely available:
    https://www.knifewarehouse.co.uk/pro...-part-i-knife/
    You endure what you want, or not. You famously said you only needed a Leatherman for wild camping and couldn’t understand why anyone needed a blade.
    Now you carry a SAK yet pretend you cannot understand why someone would carry a safer folder at home.
    The least that can be said is that you lack consistency between your claimed deeds and your words.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    It's extremely well known, but evidently not well known enough, that most knife crimes are committed with kitchen knives.

    Cheap and readily available on most high streets and in every kitchen.

    Making things like movie knives harder to buy isn't going to make a jot of difference to that.
    Handguns were banned after the Dunblane massacre even though at the time the majority of shootings were with shotguns.

    Has that action reduced gun crime in the UK?

    Movie knives just don’t seem a healthy product in a safe society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    Start with the Rough Rider stuff (your choice) on HeinnieHaynes.

    Brilliant value for money and a taste of the potential market.

    https://heinnie.com/search-result/?s...dv=Rough+rider
    I’ll have a look at that thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    accusations of trolling
    It wasn't an accusation, it was a statement of fact. It's great that we have the ignore feature, though. Ciao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    It's extremely well known, but evidently not well known enough, that most knife crimes are committed with kitchen knives.

    Cheap and readily available on most high streets and in every kitchen.

    Making things like movie knives harder to buy isn't going to make a jot of difference to that.
    I don't have stats to hand but I can imagine that's true. Kitchen knives are cheap disposable and easy to buy without any paper trail. Buy cheap, carry, stab and dispose.
    Having said that so called Zombie knife is becoming a real issue, enough for the government to do something about it.
    As with most things in life some like to show off.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/z...land-and-wales



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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    I’ve been chewing over getting a nice ergonomic knife even if it’s for nothing more adventurous than opening parcels. Just never taken the plunge. Not certain why tbh
    Look at the Boker Plus Wasabi you will not be disappointed.


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    Help me buy a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    Look at the Boker Plus Wasabi you will not be disappointed.


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    I must be going mad. Can’t for the life of me find where to add it to cart

    Edit nvm / I was on the pc. On my
    Mobile it shows that it’s out of stock which is a shame.
    Last edited by RustyBin5; 24th November 2021 at 01:06.

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    Erm... I got a bit carried away and ordered a Benchmade Mini Bugout from HH. Arrives today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Erm... I got a bit carried away and ordered a Benchmade Mini Bugout from HH. Arrives today!
    That's the problem with TZ - it's too easy to end up buying all sorts of things you never intended to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRA View Post
    That's the problem with TZ - it's too easy to end up buying all sorts of things you never intended to!

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    Tbf I lay the blame squarely at Nick Shebazz for this particular purchase (and for the inevitable future purchase of a Rogue Blade Works carbon scales upgrade). Admittedly, I originaly came to him for his watch videos (seamaster 300m diver) but that tracks back to spending time on TZ. So yeah, TZ is totes responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    I’ve been chewing over getting a nice ergonomic knife even if it’s for nothing more adventurous than opening parcels. Just never taken the plunge. Not certain why tbh
    This is my favourite pocket knife, le thiers chambriard compact.

    Feels lovely in the hand and has some great detail - available in various wood handles, the pattern on the spring is hand carved so they are all different. UK legal


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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    I must be going mad. Can’t for the life of me find where to add it to cart

    Edit nvm / I was on the pc. On my
    Mobile it shows that it’s out of stock which is a shame.
    Wood scales available

    https://heinnie.com/boker-plus-wasabi-cocobolo


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    Also in stock here

    https://www.knivesandtools.co.uk/en/...cket-knife.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    I must be going mad. Can’t for the life of me find where to add it to cart

    Edit nvm / I was on the pc. On my
    Mobile it shows that it’s out of stock which is a shame.
    See:


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    Bought it from moonraker gents thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr G Imp View Post
    This is my favourite pocket knife, le thiers chambriard compact.

    Feels lovely in the hand and has some great detail - available in various wood handles, the pattern on the spring is hand carved so they are all different. UK legal

    I have this one, with Juniper scales that
    smell wonderfully peppery.
    Beautifully made.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    Bought it from moonraker gents thank you
    Hope you enjoy it, careful it’s sharp straight out of the box. But once you master flicking it open and shut one handed, you’ll do it just cos you can.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Erm... I got a bit carried away and ordered a Benchmade Mini Bugout from HH. Arrives today!
    How did you find it? I am interested in getting on as a lightweight backpacking knife. I have only handled a 'homage' one so far and the scales were a bit flexi but I loved the ergonomics and the slimness

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmitch View Post
    How did you find it? I am interested in getting on as a lightweight backpacking knife. I have only handled a 'homage' one so far and the scales were a bit flexi but I loved the ergonomics and the slimness
    Not got it yet, I had to reschedule the delivery so it'll be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how I get on with it. If you are in the UK bare in mind that it's not legal to carry one of these as it is a lock knife. Mine won't be leaving my house.

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    I have a cheap locking knife, can't remember the make, and it's been very reliable and useful. I never take it out of the house mind you.

    The UK knife law is just a sop created by busybodies who don't possess the character to tackle violent crime. They are, however, only too happy to dispossess law abiding citizens of freedom of choice, and dare I say the tools to defend themselves from scum.

    The vast majority of the general public would agree that our sentencing laws are too weak. Who are these people who decide they're just fine? I'm guessing they don't live in rough areas.

    Incidentally - guns aren't illegal in Northern Ireland. Strange one, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    Wood scales available

    https://heinnie.com/boker-plus-wasabi-cocobolo


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    Have a couple of ‘ball detent’ folders myself and must admit to liking the way they work.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRA View Post
    That's the problem with TZ - it's too easy to end up buying all sorts of things you never intended to!

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    +1

    Read this thread and inspired by it went to look for a cheap folding pocket knife. Don’t really need one but seemed like fun.
    Just ordered Liong Mah L1.
    For no reason!
    I don’t need one!
    But I expect that in couple days I will be opening letters, peeling bananas and probably cutting toilet paper with it.
    So definitely essential tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    Have a couple of ‘ball detent’ folders myself and must admit to liking the way they work.
    Need a little thought & care how you hold them and use them.
    It’s easily my go to edc, followed by a Cudeman mt9 or Byrd Tern


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    Here it is!
    I don’t need it but I LOVE it!




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    Love the design of this, won't carry it though.
    https://www.mantisknives.com/product/mt-9-pit-boss/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmitch View Post
    How did you find it? I am interested in getting on as a lightweight backpacking knife. I have only handled a 'homage' one so far and the scales were a bit flexi but I loved the ergonomics and the slimness
    Quick update. It came yesterday and I've been fiddling with it ever since. I have now perfected the 'thumb flick'. I'm no knife expert and I have no real frame of reference but the bugout mini is a quality bit of kit as far as I can tell. The blade is perfectly centred and there is no blade play.

    It's certainly light weight. If you press the centre of the scales hard enough when the blade is open you get a little bit of flex but it feels solid enough. The blade is very sharp and it's big enough for the cutting tasks that it's designed for.

    I'd say this is a one and done for me. This may be famous last words but I don't feel the need to collect knives in the same way as watches. They don't compliment an outfit and you can't really carry these locking knives in a practical sense anyway. I may get a set of carbon or titanium scales for it at some point in the future and possibly a legal non locker if I feel I'm missing out on edc.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimp View Post
    Love the design of this, won't carry it though.
    https://www.mantisknives.com/product/mt-9-pit-boss/
    Looks like a really cool box opener -- bloody heavy, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodia77 View Post
    Looks like a really cool box opener -- bloody heavy, though.
    Will see what it's like, if no likely be on sales.

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    Well my Ontario RAT II has arrived, but I'm not telling you about it, because I need some time to get a feel for it.
    The initial purchase, a Kershaw Emerson CQC 5K, went back because it was huge. Nice, but too big for a pocket.
    Unlike the twits on Amazon who post a 5* review of a product and then write in the text. "Looks good in the box, haven't opened it yet - 5*"

    Initial impressions: nope, not doing this.

    I've fitted a 3mm paracord loop to it.

    Yes, I am a strange sort of fella :)
    Last edited by The Doc; 27th November 2021 at 14:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post

    I'd say this is a one and done for me. This may be famous last words but I don't feel the need to collect knives in the same way as watches. They don't compliment an outfit and you can't really carry these locking knives in a practical sense anyway. I may get a set of carbon or titanium scales for it at some point in the future and possibly a legal non locker if I feel I'm missing out on edc.
    Need scales, Flytanium is the place to head.

    https://www.flytanium.com/category/31/Benchmade

    However, I have had a bugout for several years and the scale flex really is not an issue. It's not a hard use knife and any force you apply using it is downward not lateral. I'd simply enjoy carrying it and using it, as it is.
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    Bought the boker wasabi- nice little thing for £40

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBin5 View Post
    Bought the boker wasabi- nice little thing for £40
    That’s nice - could the hole at the end be used to attach a string or clip?

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    The pocket clip is up by the blade. Certainly could put a lanyard through the hole. But not really that sort of knife.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    Well my Ontario RAT II has arrived, but I'm not telling you about it, because I need some time to get a feel for it.
    The initial purchase, a Kershaw Emerson CQC 5K, went back because it was huge. Nice, but too big for a pocket.
    Unlike the twits on Amazon who post a 5* review of a product and then write in the text. "Looks good in the box, haven't opened it yet - 5*"

    Initial impressions: nope, not doing this.

    I've fitted a 3mm paracord loop to it.

    Yes, I am a strange sort of fella :)
    We talking this one: https://heinnie.com/kershaw-emerson-cqc-5k ?
    Then I'm a little confused because, at least on paper, the Rat II has similar dimensions: ~3" blade and ~4" closed.
    If you don't use the pocket clip, you can detach it to make wearing it inside your pockets more comfortable.
    If still too big but you don't want to downsize too much, you could think of something with a slimmer profile, like Kershaw Chill or Kershaw Ener-G (not sure about their availability these days, they may have been discontinued).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    The pocket clip is up by the blade. Certainly could put a lanyard through the hole. But not really that sort of knife.


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    I find pocket clips eventually get caught on a doorframe usually and bent, so looking for a solution to stop me losing nice pocket knives! If it was clipped to a belt hoop and on a string or cord that would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr G Imp View Post
    I find pocket clips eventually get caught on a doorframe usually and bent, so looking for a solution to stop me losing nice pocket knives! If it was clipped to a belt hoop and on a string or cord that would work.
    Certainly would work. Mines not bent in 18months it’s a really slim knife and not bulky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rodia77 View Post
    I have that one and like the design and ergonomy, but I can't recommend it -- the rubbery coating with 'carbon fibre' pattern doesn't age well, will either peel off or get yucky-sticky and need removing. There's a 'titanium' version of the 327 I'd probably go with instead, but it also seems to use a misleading name (titanium in knives usually refers to the handle/scales material, while here it's about the coating, which I find quirky; that said, the titanium coating on the blade is alright).
    The steel nobleman is a very good knife indeed. I would have had zero expectations of a coated version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    Need scales, Flytanium is the place to head.

    https://www.flytanium.com/category/31/Benchmade

    However, I have had a bugout for several years and the scale flex really is not an issue. It's not a hard use knife and any force you apply using it is downward not lateral. I'd simply enjoy carrying it and using it, as it is.
    Thanks for that. I was aware of those Flytaniums and if I went titanium I think I'd go for those but at the minute the carbon fibre scales from Rogue Bladeworks would be my preference. That said I'm happy with the original scales in all their orange glory, plus I'd have to invest in tools (and lubricant) to switch the scales out so it'd be a relatively expensive upgrade. Maybe in future if I get bored but I'm happy with it as is for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGJG View Post
    The steel nobleman is a very good knife indeed. I would have had zero expectations of a coated version.
    Oh yes, I forgot there was a full SS version, and it wasn't there on the UK site I linked to earlier -- it's here, though: https://www.buckknives.com/product/3...ife/0327FAM01/

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    Really like the wasabi
    My only criticism is that out of the box it’s really not very sharp. Now I’m going
    to have to google sharpening methods. Bit of an irritant

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    So, the Ontario RAT II.

    I really like it and for £42 I am very pleased.

    I've fitted a 3mm paracord leash to it, because I fit a leash to all my utility knives. I can pull them out of my pocket far more easily and they just turn into a far more usable proposition.
    Had to go orange obviously, to go with the green. See last picture !!

    The thumb stud is really nice and one-handed action is easy. The weight in hand is good and it locks nicely (liner lock) and unlocking it is easy too,

    It's too early to say how long it stays sharp for, but AUS-8 steel is proper Japanese tough, so I'm hopeful.

    I moved the belt clip to the other end , because the leash now falls into better use.

    Overall at a couple of weeks: HAPPY








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    Looks like a lot of knife for the money, very nice.
    What is on the end of the paracord?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essexman View Post
    Looks like a lot of knife for the money, very nice.
    What is on the end of the paracord?
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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
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    Ha ha ha well spotted !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essexman View Post
    Looks like a lot of knife for the money, very nice.
    What is on the end of the paracord?
    Looks like a knot and shrink wrap.

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    A knot and some electrician's heat shrink.
    Such a neat trick.
    Glad you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Doc View Post
    A knot and some electrician's heat shrink.
    Such a neat trick.
    Glad you like
    So simple and effective!
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    What is the purpose of the tape over the knot? I'd have thought it unlikely it would come undone, but is it to be extra sure?

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