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    I'm allergic to Quartz watches! - Who has the same problem? Am I becoming a purist ?

    Ive traded countless wrist watches back in the days, but I recently went trough my collection and noticed that I don't own any Quartz watches, I don't even own a automatic anymore, all of them are vintage and hand wind!?

    I love connecting with my watch in the morning and give it some TLC and fuel it up.

    Does somebody here have the same problem?

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    Personally I like 'em all - handwound, automatic, battery-powered quartz, solar.

    Actually I don't like kinetics. Too needy. But apart from that, it's all good.

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    I hate quartz/battery watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    Personally I like 'em all - handwound, automatic, battery-powered quartz, solar.

    Actually I don't like kinetics. Too needy. But apart from that, it's all good.
    The Seiko sure, but what about the autoquartz? I always think these, developed from the 2824, are a very different proposition. They are heavily jewelled, solidly built and even hand wind, as do the Springdrive.

    Which brings me to the proposition on the table. I can’t argue with the visceral experience of winding, even the character of the wind, with, say, the old high beat Seiko pushing back as you wind, while an old Hamilton is so smooth as to be almost watery or a thirty series Omega when you can feel each tooth click smoothly if you wind slowly.

    However, a large chunk of the pleasure is knowing what’s going on as you wind, knowing the quality, finish and so on and that can be seen in a quartz. If you like handwind, then go for a quartz with a handwind character, something old with a chunky tick, a Girard Perregaux 352 or a (slightly more affordable) Chaika. 3050. Everyone needs a grab and go, or a handy reference, It’s just a matter of finding the right one.

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    While understanding the convenience of quartz, I wouldn't go near one. Perhaps I'm lucky, my life isn't so busy that I don't have time to wind, and connect with, my watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve27752 View Post
    I hate quartz/battery watches.
    Quote Originally Posted by EBB21 View Post
    While understanding the convenience of quartz, I wouldn't go near one. Perhaps I'm lucky, my life isn't so busy that I don't have time to wind, and connect with, my watches.
    These comments are strange over reactions to me and show a lack of interest in horology as a subject.

    There are some amazing quartz watches out there along with some technological masterpieces. Take the early hummers for example (although I know theyíre not quartz) or the Grand Seiko quartz movements. Even the solar atomic Casios or Seikos are pretty amazing.

    To disregard anything but mechanical is just sad.

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    I dislike automatic watches that don't keep good time. Plenty of them around, useless things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-Z1R View Post
    I dislike automatic watches that don't keep good time. Plenty of them around, useless things.
    Off topic but assuming your chosen user name relates to your motorcycle, a picture of it in the bike thread would be nice to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBB21 View Post
    While understanding the convenience of quartz, I wouldn't go near one. Perhaps I'm lucky, my life isn't so busy that I don't have time to wind, and connect with, my watches.
    I always find comments like this a little odd tbh. A mechanical watch is no more Ďaliveí than a quartz - theyíre all inanimate objects and the fanciful, romanticised Ďconnectioní with a mechanical watch is overblown imho. For many Iím sure it justifies the initial cost and maintenance of their pride and joy, but the longer I spend in this hobby, and the more watches I own, Iíve completely abandoned the notion of mechanical being better or more WIS than any other type of movement


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    At this point I have a pretty much even split between manual wind, automatic, quartz and tuning fork/electronic. I don't really have a preference, they all have their pros and cons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-Z1R View Post
    I dislike automatic watches that don't keep good time. Plenty of them around, useless things.
    That pretty much sums up Seiko divers for me.

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    I have plenty of Quartz watches, but nearly always pick up an Automatic in the morning.
    As Jeremy Clarkson would say, a Quartz ďhas no soul!Ē.

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    I, too, find these comments a little odd. As said above they all have their pros and cons andI have both types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomGW View Post
    That pretty much sums up Seiko divers for me.
    You can be lucky or unlucky with a Seiko.
    I have had a few that have run between +2 and -2, most seem to run between +8 and -8, but if you are really unlucky you can be closer to 20 seconds out per day. They tend to run consistently, so if you get them to a good watch guy, a quick adjustment sees them running excellently (a shame that they donít do this at the factory!)

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    I have a mixture of automatics and quartz but only one manual wind watch: Omega Speedmaster 'Ed White' from 1964. My daily wearer is this Breitling that I have NEVER had to adjust (aside from at battery changes) since I bought in in 2005.



    A couple of RAF pilot watches; the Gen I issued to me when going through flying training in the late 80s and the Gen II sometime later.




    And a couple of dive watches from the 90s used when 'scooby dooing' on holiday dives.



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    Im allergic to vintage watches, i just worry they are going to be unreliable and need repairs etc

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    I'm allergic to Quartz watches! - Who has the same problem? Am I becoming a purist ?

    I donít understand the sentiment at all. Iím eagerly awaiting the arrival of a Sinn EZM 2


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    I donít see why anyone truly interested in horology would discount quartz. I have 3 excluding G-Shocks and love them.

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    I have quartz watches, but more often than not, I pass them over in favour of wearing a mechanical watch.

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    My only problem with quartz is having to do battery changes. Their accuracy is obviously commendable. But, I donít run my daily life to the nearest second, or even minute for that matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Off topic but assuming your chosen user name relates to your motorcycle, a picture of it in the bike thread would be nice to see.
    It's currently hibernating and won't be out playing again until spring! Standard silver 'bigger tank' version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post
    I have plenty of Quartz watches, but nearly always pick up an Automatic in the morning.
    As Jeremy Clarkson would say, a Quartz ďhas no soul!Ē.
    Ironically, of course, if anything has a soul it's quartz. I can literally work my way through every physical interaction in a quartz and everything is open to understanding using eyesight. physics and maths. In a quartz, there is a little 'brain' with a little 'mind' obsessively counting the vibration of the quartz and stacking them in neat little rows, starting again when a certain number is reached until the precise number is counted at which point a signal is sent back to the physical world to tick. All very mystical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
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    All very mystical.
    The quartz watch works closer to the way the universe works. Electromechanically. In comparison, the mechanical watch is just a wind-up toy.

    On a serious note, if my life is going to depend on it (which is unlikely) then it better be quartz.

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    I have automatic and quartz in my collection. No manual wind at the moment. Iím a bit of a watch tart though - I donít rule out any flavours

    "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly soĒ. HHGTTG


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    I have a mix, though quartz takes up less than 20% of my collection.

    However every not sports tracking watch I have purchased in the past four years has been automatic or manual.

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    Thereís merit in both quartz and automatic / mechanical. I probably wear my G-Shock as much as any other watch and itís my time keeping standard for when I wind and set a mechanical.

    Noisy analogue quartz watches with wobbly second hands are off-putting but the issue is more to do with the quality of the engineering than the fact that itís quartz. You canít compare a £50 swatch with a £5000 omega and say the issue is that one is quartz.

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    Personally I prefer a handwound movement but I also enjoy both Auto and Quartz. I have a very modest collection but I think thereís merit in having different types of movements in a collection. This quartz has become my favourite daily wearer:


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    I have a soft spot for solar powered, all the convenience of quartz without the battery hassle. My radio controlled titanium citizen world timer is my go to holiday watch, my Seiko solar tuna tends to be my work watch, and a radio controlled square g shock for when manly tasks are the order of the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    These comments are strange over reactions to me and show a lack of interest in horology as a subject.

    There are some amazing quartz watches out there along with some technological masterpieces. Take the early hummers for example (although I know they’re not quartz) or the Grand Seiko quartz movements. Even the solar atomic Casios or Seikos are pretty amazing.

    To disregard anything but mechanical is just sad.
    Amen
    I’ve several 40 year old quartz watches keeping excellent time (which to me is the purpose of a watch) probably never been serviced in their lives
    Eagerly awaiting the arrival of an Omega AT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Tetley View Post
    Personally I prefer a handwound movement but I also enjoy both Auto and Quartz. I have a very modest collection but I think thereís merit in having different types of movements in a collection. This quartz has become my favourite daily wearer:

    Iíve always liked that model of 2000 and the kirium F1. The blackness of the dial is deeper than almost any other watch dial Iíve ever seen, yet itís also a multi function digital display.

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    For me, the automatics with no manual wind facility are a nuisance as almost without fail, they have stopped an hour or so before I need to wear them!
    For one of my jobs outside where I cannot use my reading glasses I use quartz 1982 Precista G10 as the dial is easy to read. Newly restored so should be reliable for years.
    For another of my jobs, I have to be bare to the elbows and so have to put my watch on a table. The CWC is too valuable knowing some of my customers so a Casio F91W does an excellent job. If it is pinched itís only £9.99!
    So my automatics with manual wind are not for work duties.
    Personally, I donít think it matters what you wear providing you enjoy the timepiece and it does a reliable job of timekeeping.

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    I love the oysterquartz and like the sinn hydros.
    Apart from those I just don't find quartz particularly enticing.

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    That's a short essay on what you are all missing.
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    Always seems to me a badge of ignorance that anyone with an interest in watches discounts quartz technology. Tiresome, too.

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    I have mostly mechanical, but I’ll always have a G-Shock and I’m rather partial to my Aerospace Evo Night Mission too.

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    I must admit that I generally prefer an automatic watch with cogs. However, i have several G Shocks which always go on holiday with me. I keep them away from the mechanical stuff in a glass topped watches box however.

    i have recently been interested in the Cartier Tank Solarbeat, and as part of my research I discovered a lot about quartz movements. I, like many, assumed these were just circus tat made of plastic, but I was very wrong. I found out that some manufacturers fit a new a movement when they change the battery, and there are different qualities etc.

    i think both must be looked at on their own merits but the question remains. Are you happy to spend £2500 on a quartz watch? For me the answer is, quite possibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Iíve always liked that model of 2000 and the kirium F1. The blackness of the dial is deeper than almost any other watch dial Iíve ever seen, yet itís also a multi function digital display.
    I have a soft spot for the 2000 series as the blue dialled auto was my first Ďproperí watch. The Multigraph has a great underside AR coating and the dial is almost mirror like at times.

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    If it was a choice between one or the other I would go mechanical but a collection means you can have both.


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    I think there's a difference between people who like horology, and people who like watches*. If you're one of the former then you can't discount quartz (or spring drive for that matter) because that's where the interesting technology is right now.

    I'd quite like to get one of those HAQ watches that Citizen sell in Japan one day. 1 second per year is a hell of an achievement.

    * realistically we're all a bit of both.

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    I'm allergic to Quartz watches! - Who has the same problem? Am I becoming a purist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    Amen
    I’ve several 40 year old quartz watches keeping excellent time (which to me is the purpose of a watch) probably never been serviced in their lives
    Eagerly awaiting the arrival of an Omega AT
    Iíve recently started wearing my 2004 Seiko Tuna SBBN007 after a very long sabbatical in the watch box. 0.035 seconds per day. I think that is pretty immense.

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    I agree with one of the comments above, a quartz has no soul, love listening to the sound of a mechanical watch as I lay in bed and my arm is under the pillow and you can faintly hear the sound of the movement.


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    I thoroughly enjoy both and currently own a quartz TAG 2000, Grand Seiko 9F and a fun Seiko "Safarnie". All very useful, fun and convenient.

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    I think I still have a Boylondon quartz chrono which failed to click after battery replacement. I rather enjoy several battery powered clocks with sweeping hands from Ikea.

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    I went through a phase of considering quartz to be somehow ďinferiorĒ, but as I learned more about the technology (it really is quite astonishing) and its development, and the way that Swatch et al deliberately marketed mechanical as ďpremiumĒ as a simple commercial play, I found my views changing.

    Today, roughly half my collection is quartz based - Iíve a Spring Drive which to me is a glorious blend of the old and new technology, Iíve a number of GMW-B5000 G-Shocks (partly because I consider the ďsquareĒ to be a design icon and partly because the Bluetooth tech is brilliant), I have micro brand mecaquartz chronos (all the aesthetics of a sweeping hand, without the faff), and I have self-consciously complex, feature packed ana-digis.

    I like the robustness of quartz - generally speaking of course - and I truly admire its accuracy - setting aside the Bluetooth Gs (ďcheatingĒ, really), the fact that my bog standard Safarnie is within 2 seconds per month, while my X-33 has averaged around 5 seconds a year is quite the comparison with even my most reliably accurate mechanical watches.

    The more Iíve learned about quartz movements, the more Iíve come to like them - and theyíll always have a place in my collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellsy_79 View Post
    I agree with one of the comments above, a quartz has no soul, love listening to the sound of a mechanical watch as I lay in bed and my arm is under the pillow and you can faintly hear the sound of the movement.


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    Which comments do agree with? Most of them are contrary to your position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellsy_79 View Post
    I agree with one of the comments above, a quartz has no soul, love listening to the sound of a mechanical watch as I lay in bed and my arm is under the pillow and you can faintly hear the sound of the movement.


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    If you can hear a mechanical watch through a pillow it almost certainly needs servicing! Either way, the fact is that all of these are about reciprocal movement whether it is:

    2.5 Hz



    720hz



    Or a teeny bit faster:



    It's all vibration and maths.

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    For me quartz adds an additional "tool" element to a watch. I love my mechanical watches but for everyday duties my Aerospace Evo gets the most wrist time. It's super accurate, can do things that no mechanical watch can do and can be grabbed out of the safe thrown on in a hurry.

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