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    RIP David Amess MP

    He died today from stab wounds sustained while he was holding a surgery in his constituency.

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    Just watching the news now so sad and horrific.

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    Disgraceful. Horrific for his family

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    Tragic. Thoughts and prayers to his family. Truly horrific.

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    Absolute disgrace that MPs are being targeted like this. RIP.

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    Bloody awful RIP


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    Truly shocking, a good bloke by all accounts, family and friends must be stunned and devastated RIP

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    Horrific news. RIP.
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    Tragic news,
    RIP.
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    Chris this is not the answer to anything truly horrific it’s got to be time for some sort of protection.

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    RIP David Amess MP

    Just round the corner from my two daughters. What is this country coming too with knife crime? I met Amess a few times through work. My sincere condolences to his family. Truly shocking!
    We only had the knife Angel sculpture here in Essex last month...unbelievable!

    Last edited by wildheart; 15th October 2021 at 16:24.

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    Too many very sick people in the UK now. RIP

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    Gutted to hear about this. My abiding memory of him is from nearly three decades ago; election night '92. I'd been out working for the party and got home late, after the polls closed.

    Needless to say I switched on the election coverage shortly thereafter and a few hours later, David's constituency (Basildon, back then) was one of the first to declare. It was a seat Labour needed to take comfortably to have a realistic chance of forming a government, but they hadn't.

    As David raised an arm with a broad smile to acknowledge the cheers of his supporters present at the count, David Dimbleby turned to the sephologist Anthony King, who gloomily intoned "this looks like a very good night for the Tories".

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    RIP. Just awful news. Thoughts are with his family.

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    We don't know yet whether this is the work of an idiot or someone with mental health problems. However I can't help but feel actions like this are the child of the bile in politics these days.

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    Incredibly sad news, I'm horrified, angry and dismayed by the state of things in this country.

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    Looking at his record I cant see anything that would make him a political target. Maybe just another knife crime statistic and wrong place wrong time. Either way very sad and paints a grim picture to the world of the current state of the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southerner101 View Post
    Looking at his record I cant see anything that would make him a political target. Maybe just another knife crime statistic and wrong place wrong time. Either way very sad and paints a grim picture to the world of the current state of the UK.
    Agree, probably a nutcase and/or someone with a personal grievance.
    RIP anyway.

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    How terribly, terribly sad.

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    Very sad indeed. No one deserves to die like that. My condolences to his family and friends.
    Last edited by Andyg; 16th October 2021 at 15:18.

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    A sad day, he seemed to be a nice man, and so sorry for his family.
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    RIP David. An awful thing to happen to a fellow human being. Condolences to his family.

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    VERY tragic news,RIP.

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    I just saw this on the news. Absolutely appalling.

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    Horrific, tragic and sad in equal measure.

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    A dreadful tragedy. Truly appalling.
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    This is so senseless. He was a highly thought of MP. RIP Mr Amess.

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    Shocking, sad, and so senseless. RIP.

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    Horrific occurrence and a senseless tragedy.

    RIP David.
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    A truly shocking and sad day.

    Thinking of his family at such a sad sad time.


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    Truly awful. RiP.

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    Terrible news. He was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt so obviously one of the good guys. RIP.

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    This country of late is truly horrendous, I will say no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    This country of late is truly horrendous, I will say no more
    Absolutely
    I'm lost with this place at the moment.
    Nobody seems to give a shit about consequences anymore.

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    Incredibly sad and traumatic for his family and friends.

    RIP

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    Sir David Amess: Police declare murder of Conservative MP a terrorist incident, 'potentially linked to Islamist extremism' http://news.sky.com/story/fatal-stab...ident-12435051


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    Very, very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Terrible news. He was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt so obviously one of the good guys. RIP.

    Even if he was anti animal rights and pro hunt, this would still not excuse someone stabling him to death would it. In fact I cannot think of a single individual who deserves to be murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Even if he was anti animal rights and pro hunt, this would still not excuse someone stabling him to death would it. In fact I cannot think of a single individual who deserves to be murdered.
    Not at all but it certainly wouldn't make him one of the good guys imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Not at all but it certainly wouldn't make him one of the good guys imo.
    Daft argument really. Being pro-animal doesn't automatically make someone a good guy - could be far outweighed by undesirable attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Not at all but it certainly wouldn't make him one of the good guys imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Daft argument really. Being pro-animal doesn't automatically make someone a good guy - could be far outweighed by undesirable attributes.
    Plenty of it: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10...end_west/votes
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Not saying he was a good guy or not, just commenting on the logic of the argument.

    It's good to love animals doesn't mean all animal lovers are good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Daft argument really. Being pro-animal doesn't automatically make someone a good guy - could be far outweighed by undesirable attributes.
    This is true (I fundamentally disagree with him re: Brexit for example) but the fact that he was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt speaks volumes about the type of person he was imo. At the very least he has a level of empathy for fellow living things so he can't have been all bad :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    This is true (I fundamentally disagree with him re: Brexit for example) but the fact that he was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt speaks volumes about the type of person he was imo. At the very least he has a level of empathy for fellow living things so he can't have been all bad :-)
    I find that his voting record on education, equality, human and gay rights says much more about the type of person he was. If he had empathy for animals, he apparently had none for children.

    I am obviously not saying that justifies his murder, there is nothing that would ever justify that. But I don't think he was a nice person.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I find that his voting record on education, equality, human and gay rights says much more about the type of person he was. If he had empathy for animals, he apparently had none for children.

    I am obviously not saying that justifies his murder, there is nothing that would ever justify that. But I don't think he was a nice person.
    When the news broke I went over to the website and his antipathy towards gay people did seem at odds with the numerous tributes that speak of his kind and caring persona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphy View Post
    When the news broke I went over to the website and his antipathy towards gay people did seem at odds with the numerous tributes that speak of his kind and caring persona.

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    My point exactly.

    Somebody will come and say "de mortuis nihil nisi bonum", but when I hear praise of him being a nice person my stomach revolts.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Crikey so not the nicest, kindest of men after all.
    Last edited by Passenger; 16th October 2021 at 20:42.

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    He voted against Labour’s anti terrorism laws…
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I find that his voting record on education, equality, human and gay rights says much more about the type of person he was. If he had empathy for animals, he apparently had none for children.

    I am obviously not saying that justifies his murder, there is nothing that would ever justify that. But I don't think he was a nice person.
    He was a Tory MP in Boris the Corrupt’s Government, what did you expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paw3001 View Post
    He was a Tory MP in Boris the Corrupt’s Government, what did you expect?
    I suspect his views and voting record will have been determined by his religious beliefs rather than the colour of his party.

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