He died today from stab wounds sustained while he was holding a surgery in his constituency.
He died today from stab wounds sustained while he was holding a surgery in his constituency.
Just watching the news now so sad and horrific.
Disgraceful. Horrific for his family
Absolute disgrace that MPs are being targeted like this. RIP.
Horrific news. RIP.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Tragic. Thoughts and prayers to his family. Truly horrific.
Bloody awful RIP
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Truly shocking, a good bloke by all accounts, family and friends must be stunned and devastated RIP
Tragic news,
RIP.
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Chris this is not the answer to anything truly horrific it’s got to be time for some sort of protection.
Just round the corner from my two daughters. What is this country coming too with knife crime? I met Amess a few times through work. My sincere condolences to his family. Truly shocking!
We only had the knife Angel sculpture here in Essex last month...unbelievable!
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Too many very sick people in the UK now. RIP
Gutted to hear about this. My abiding memory of him is from nearly three decades ago; election night '92. I'd been out working for the party and got home late, after the polls closed.
Needless to say I switched on the election coverage shortly thereafter and a few hours later, David's constituency (Basildon, back then) was one of the first to declare. It was a seat Labour needed to take comfortably to have a realistic chance of forming a government, but they hadn't.
As David raised an arm with a broad smile to acknowledge the cheers of his supporters present at the count, David Dimbleby turned to the sephologist Anthony King, who gloomily intoned "this looks like a very good night for the Tories".
RIP. Just awful news. Thoughts are with his family.
We don't know yet whether this is the work of an idiot or someone with mental health problems. However I can't help but feel actions like this are the child of the bile in politics these days.
Incredibly sad news, I'm horrified, angry and dismayed by the state of things in this country.
Looking at his record I cant see anything that would make him a political target. Maybe just another knife crime statistic and wrong place wrong time. Either way very sad and paints a grim picture to the world of the current state of the UK.
How terribly, terribly sad.
Shocking, sad, and so senseless. RIP.
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Horrific occurrence and a senseless tragedy.
RIP David.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Tricky one he's a politician. Rip to the bloke, thoughts and prayers to hs family despite his voting against the rights of gay people...give him the benefit of the doubt as he's dead ... but it's the job he chose, the herd's getting increasingly jittery what with all the various problems society is taking on the chin, some Administration generated/ others global, there's a lot of nutters roaming the streets and GB's a very stabby place, it can happen to anyone, anytime, I know, for any or no reason.
They the MP's like to bask in the glory, no surprise that they also attract opprobrium and the mentalists.
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A truly shocking and sad day.
Thinking of his family at such a sad sad time.
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Truly awful. RiP.
Terrible news. He was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt so obviously one of the good guys. RIP.
This country of late is truly horrendous, I will say no more
AbsolutelyOriginally Posted by hilly10
I'm lost with this place at the moment.
Nobody seems to give a shit about consequences anymore.
Incredibly sad and traumatic for his family and friends.
RIP
Even if he was anti animal rights and pro hunt, this would still not excuse someone stabling him to death would it. In fact I cannot think of a single individual who deserves to be murdered.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Not at all but it certainly wouldn't make him one of the good guys imo.
Daft argument really. Being pro-animal doesn't automatically make someone a good guy - could be far outweighed by undesirable attributes.
Plenty of it: https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10...end_west/votes
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
This is true (I fundamentally disagree with him re: Brexit for example) but the fact that he was pro-animal rights and anti-hunt speaks volumes about the type of person he was imo. At the very least he has a level of empathy for fellow living things so he can't have been all bad :-)
Which bit of my post were you struggling with? Where did I suggest he was some sort of saint. I simply said no one deserved to die in that manner.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
And I agreed. If he was pro-hunt and pro-animal cruelty I wouldn't be calling him a good guy.
Once somebody ill-advisedly brings politics into a G&D thread it's always going to head in a downward trajectory, and that happened way back with Post #13.
Don't just do something, sit there. - TNH
Sir David Amess: Police declare murder of Conservative MP a terrorist incident, 'potentially linked to Islamist extremism' http://news.sky.com/story/fatal-stab...ident-12435051
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Very, very sad.
He voted against Labour’s anti terrorism laws…
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Well the man may not have been the nicest;
Absolutely nobody deserves the end he met
The perpetrator has been detained under the terror act also
What the hell is wrong with people in the country, so cowardly!
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Can’t believe the nasty turn this thread has taken tbh.
The last thing I would have thought about when Jo Cox was murdered, would have been to check her voting records to see if she was worthy of my sympathy.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
It’s nuts isn’t it
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The issue isnt about not giving sympathy to his family it is the push back against trying to make out he was a some kind of saintly decent and kind man. No one deserves to be murdered as we are all complex in our thoughts and feelings but he actually had direct opportunities to improve peoples lives and he actively made then worse!
This.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
I could no doubt say the same about Jo Cox’s voting records if I disagreed with how she voted.
Luckily I don’t share the Rayneresque black and white view of people.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Anyway this is no longer an RIP thread, so probably should be moved.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Hmmm go on then and you are hell bent on missing the point about sanctifying Ames’s
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25...and_spen/votes
Compare her voting on health and welfare versus His and who do you conclude had more consideration for poor people’s plight?
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Go take a walk.
As usually, you are making it up. Nobody is turning this into an attack. Some have merely pointed out that Amess was not the caring and empathetic man who is being described in the media. That is not an attack on him, but a correction of facts. You have chosen to be upset about it, for reasons that you only know.
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Eh?
Not for you.
The gentlemen before you, who choose to be upset on behalf...
Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.
Hardly a ‘correction of facts’. Simply your view on his politics.
Many saw him as very caring and empathetic apparently. So views differ.
“Members of Southend’s Muslim community paid tribute to Sir David, with Ruhul Shamsuddin, joint secretary of Essex Jamme Masjid, describing the MP as a “tremendous force for good and pillar of support for our community”.”
“Meanwhile, an Iranian opposition group has paid tribute to Sir David, describing him as a “human rights champion” and an “enemy of many dictators”.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/muslims-.html
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
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