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    Genuinely interesting proposition (70s Ford content)

    It's not cheap but then it is technically a new car.

    Shells from around £15k, full builds from around £65k.

    Presumably residuals would be strong.

    Ok, that's the justification out of the way...

    A Mk 1 please, possibly in white.

    Last edited by AlphaOmega; 5th October 2021 at 03:28.

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    Cheers for that, great watch. Nostalgia in video form.

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    Or buy mine for less than half the price.

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    While I absolutely applaud these niche makers, and love the look of that, you'd need to be very keen to spend £65k for essentially a forty year old Ford Escort (albeit modernised).

    Coincidentially, 65k would buy you a brand new Porsche Cayman. Just to put it into context.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    There must be something about Escorts, Gordon Murray likes them. here
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    Escorts? Zzzzzz

    Let me know when they start remaking Capris!

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    It's already on the list once the lottery numbers come up

    Along with a GR Yaris, Lotus Emira, Alpine via Litchfield and some kind of restomod Porsche like a Tuthill, Rennsport or Theon Design

    Which reminds me to put on a ticket...

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    Rose tinted and all that but I remember specifically looking for a Capri 2.8i in the early 90's (they were about £1300 for a good one) and looking at a Mk. 2 Escort RS2000 at the same time that was £2995. Didn't buy either. Stayed with my Opel Manta!

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    How do these ‘new’ Escorts get registered for the road?

    When an original car us rebuilt using a new shell it can retains the original registration without any problems. If insufficient if the original vehicle gas been retained the car ends up on a Q plate. However, if a car is built from scratch surely it would have to pass the limited type approval tests? Building a new- old car isn’t quite as simple as it may seem.

    How many folks really want to pay £65k for a Mk 1 or 11 Escort? I owned a 1976 1600 Sport back in 1980 and I kept it for 4 months, I swapped it for a 2 litre Capri which was a far nicer car.

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    A friend of mine is building an Escort.




















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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    While I absolutely applaud these niche makers, and love the look of that, you'd need to be very keen to spend £65k for essentially a forty year old Ford Escort (albeit modernised).

    Coincidentially, 65k would buy you a brand new Porsche Cayman. Just to put it into context.
    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post

    How many folks really want to pay £65k for a Mk 1 or 11 Escort?
    I think the price of the older cars is now more shocking than for any of the new stuff. Some of the beige under-powered stuff from the 80s is five figures.

    Against £30k plus for something that's a bit quicker that might need a lot of work, I can see it makes sense to buy 'new' particularly if depreciation is minimal.

    Also, a lot of people who were brought up with these cars have a much stronger connection with them than anything modern, and possibly the purchase is more heart than head.

    I should say that this is my view of other people - my own budget for cars is small.

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    I'm not an expert but I think that engine is very high spec, R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    I'm not an expert but I think that engine is very high spec, R.
    North of £30k I suspect.
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    It must be an age thing. I just don't see these 80's cars as classics. I suppose a classic is whatever you aspired to drive when you were growing up. If you were able to drive these 80's cars they don't seem like classics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    I'm not an expert but I think that engine is very high spec, R.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    North of £30k I suspect.
    It was originally owned by Colin McRae, produces 340bhp torque, 245lb/ft and weighs 83kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbannister View Post
    Rose tinted and all that but I remember specifically looking for a Capri 2.8i in the early 90's (they were about £1300 for a good one) and looking at a Mk. 2 Escort RS2000 at the same time that was £2995. Didn't buy either. Stayed with my Opel Manta!
    I was looking for a 2.8 about the same time looked at loads and they were either rotten or had been crashed and bodged up

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    As i understand it, it isn't a tarted up 70's Escort but a hand made car with new chassis and engine that happens to look like a 70's Escort.

    I don't think there's a donor car involved.

    I wouldn't spend my last £80K on one but if i had enough that I could spend that much and not miss it then I'd love one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    It must be an age thing. I just don't see these 80's cars as classics. I suppose a classic is whatever you aspired to drive when you were growing up. If you were able to drive these 80's cars they don't seem like classics.
    It's definitely an age thing.

    I don't think of some 2000s cars as classics but after 20-odd years they probably are.

    When I was driving in the 80s, I definitely thought of a TR7 as a classic even though it was only just over a decade old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    It's definitely an age thing.

    I don't think of some 2000s cars as classics but after 20-odd years they probably are.

    When I was driving in the 80s, I definitely thought of a TR7 as a classic even though it was only just over a decade old.
    That's because it was a Michelloti design. Mind you, I much preferred the Scimitar as it was actually a decent car too!

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    ^Ah, yes the Scimitar was quite the thing.

    Some I will never think of as classics. The Mark IV Cortina, for example. I'm not sure why. Even though I can clearly see the later Sierras are now classics. Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    The Mark IV Cortina
    My first accident was in one of them, aged about 9! It was a couple weeks old and got rear-ended.

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    Mine was in a Mark II 1600E...

    Aubergine with black interior. Walnut trim. Well, wood anyway.

    My Father was turning right at a junction so the impact was near the passenger footwell.

    It was only light damage but I distinctly remember the other car was a Spitfire being over-driven. Or it might have been a Stag.

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    My first car crash was in the back of my Dad's bright orange Capri 2.0 L. R Registration, I think I was about 5.

    My Grandad had a slightly younger version (T reg) - also in bright orange, but his was the Ghia - whoop whoop! (Only the 2.0 version though...).

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    I believe the Ghia had windows which wound themselves up and down at the touch of a button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    I believe the Ghia had windows which wound themselves up and down at the touch of a button.
    It may well have done, but I only ever travelled in the back at that age! No seat belt of course.

    Copious amounts of vomit was deposited on those black vinyl seats by my sister and I.... Neither of us were particularly good back seat travellers!
    It was quite a challenge to remove from the perforated vinyl apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    That's because it was a Michelloti design. Mind you, I much preferred the Scimitar as it was actually a decent car too!
    TR7 was a Harris Mann design, not Michelloti.
    Have to agree about the Scimitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdh1 View Post
    It must be an age thing. I just don't see these 80's cars as classics. I suppose a classic is whatever you aspired to drive when you were growing up. If you were able to drive these 80's cars they don't seem like classics.
    All I really remember about Escorts is there seemed to be about 3 keys for all of them!

    A colleague of mine locked herself out of hers back in the day asked two other Escort owners and the second key opened the door of her car!

    I was amazed and she said she'd done it before!

    I don't really get all this 'Blue collar chic' thing about old Fords - Sure, a works RS1800 is a long way from a 1.1L, but a lot of rather ordinary Fords are treated as amazing cars, which they most definitely weren't.

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    The little rallying I have done was in Imprezas and Mark II Escorts. So for me they never really went away. FWIW, the Imprezas were more impressive but a lot less fun.

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    65k seems pretty cheap compared to a Singer or an Alfaholics Alfa.

    Personally I would rather a Mk1 Lotus Cortina.

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