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    Really looking forward to watching this. I'm not going to get to see it until next week but really am in a state of anticipation for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian View Post
    Iíve not seen it but not sure what has been spoilt in this thread?
    Maybe Iím just being over cautious having seen it (twice) and I felt the post gave away the ending? Maybe not. As you were 😉

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    At least I now know where Imperial Storm Troopers go when they retire

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiny73 View Post
    Maybe Iím just being over cautious having seen it (twice) and I felt the post gave away the ending? Maybe not. As you were 
    Ah, not been paying much attention anyway...I think this is the first DC Bond I've decided to wait for the home release!

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    Let me guessÖ JB pulls off a mask at the end Scooby-Doo style!

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    Many bad reviews here, i have lost most hope of it being any good

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    I'm a Bond fan. 2021 is the year that I'm re-reading all the novels. I'm up to On Her Majesty's Secret Service. I like Daniel Craig as bond, not my favourite, but pretty good. Believable, good in action scenes, but somewhat po-faced. Casino Royale was a great film, but I found it over long in the cinema. Although the final act made dramatic sense, it made the film drag for me. I preferred it on rewatch at home. QoS I didn't enjoy at the cinema, but I think is actually OK having rewatched. Skyfall was a curate's egg for me. I found the middle act dragged, and while I admire Javier Bardem as an actor, I thought he made a ridiculous Bond villain. Spectre had some great moment, but most of the time it felt inert and the meta-plot seemed very much an after thought.

    Given all of the above, I'm probably going to wait for streaming. I would like a trip to the cinemas, but not sure if I can face three hours of what will probably be a very mixed bag.

    I'd love to see a reboot of the franchise and loved the idea of a film that cleaves closer to the novel. Tarantino's plan of a black and white Casio Royale set in teh 50's sounded fantastic. Maybe Christopher Nolan will get a chance to make something similar.

    Anyway, back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmitch View Post
    If you get the NJ Peal blue jersey, please let me know if that neck cord is removable or not. I like the jumper but done want some random bit of string
    I’m a slave buddy. I have one of the original run Skyfall ToKiTo’s, Sunspel’s , Persol you name it. Thinking Npeal trousers, Barbour x EG’s, OB-T, Rogue Territory, sunnies, don’t get me started. lol


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    Just saw it last night, it was a bond movie.
    I would watch for your eyes only another 20 times. Moore was the family Bond, witty, sarcastic and well, sexist, and had the best villain of all time. Kids love Jaws, can't beat that smile.
    From russia with love is another good one.

    No time to die... well, I did appreciate the ending. Different.

    Gosh I do miss the Lotus.
    The chase scene in Sardinia is still one of the best ever.

    Bang!

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    Go support a local independent cinema (saw it for £6)
    If you like actions movies, you'll like this.
    If you like nods to iconic Bond moments you'll like this.
    Don't over analyse it, enjoy the ride it's a good film with actual acting in it (for the most part... see don't over analyse)

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    I thoroughly enjoyed it - watched last night at my local independent. Yes, itís a bit long and could have been edited down a smidge. Yes, there are plenty of plot holes and the odd moments of plausibility deficit. The relentless hype really gave me The Fear after the bloated oddity that was ďSpectreĒ.

    But, on the up-sideÖ A really good cast, much more of an ensemble piece than some Bond movies; I loved the little nods to earlier films in the script and the score; Ana de Armas (a really lovely performance); some shock moments; some iconic action sequences; and absolutely SUMPTUOUS cinematography. I felt it was a fitting end to Daniel Craigís involvement, and it rounds out ďhisĒ series of movies very well.

    I felt it was a ticket price and a Sunday evening well spent, all in all. Really lovely to go to a cinema again, too - I realised that the last thing Mrs Cain and I saw at the cinema was Star Wars, at the Secret Cinema Drive-In last summer. Crazy.

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    Watched it with the mrs on Friday. The first hour was really entertaining but I felt like the rest was a little stale if Iím honest. It was very skyfall-esque but about 40 mins too long IMO

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    I saw it on Sunday. 7/10 from me and a fitting conclusion to Daniel Craig's tenure as JB I suppose. Few plot holes and cheesy scenes, but to be expected.

    I actually thought 'Skyfall' was very good - better than the current one, much better than Spectre and QoS, but Casino Royale probably the best of the bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hack View Post
    I saw it on Sunday. 7/10 from me and a fitting conclusion to Daniel Craig's tenure as JB I suppose. Few plot holes and cheesy scenes, but to be expected.

    I actually thought 'Skyfall' was very good - better than the current one, much better than Spectre and QoS, but Casino Royale probably the best of the bunch.
    Agree. For me in order of best to worst itís Casino Royale, Skyfall, no time to die, QoS, Spectre. That being said theyíre all pretty good

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    I'm thinking of going to my local VUE to watch this ... are the audience all wearing masks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    I'm thinking of going to my local VUE to watch this ... are the audience all wearing masks?
    Only on Tuesdays when it is 'Gimp Night'.

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    After Casino Royale, which was very good, I thought the other Craig Bond films weren't that good. It's not Daniel, who is great, the story etc were poor after CR.

    Personally my favourite Bond films are:

    Goldfinger,
    From Russia with Love,
    The Living Daylights,
    The Spy Who Loved Me,
    Licence to Kill,
    Casino Royale,
    OHMSS,
    GoldenEye.

    Timothy Dalton was highly underated. In fact he was ahead of his time as Craig sort of followed on. Pity Timothy wasn't in GoldenEye.

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    Massive Bond fan, of over 45 years.

    Thought Casino was solid, Quantum empty, and Skyfall and Spectre pretty garbage with poor writing and casting. I especially hate what Sam Mendez (director of the latter two) was trying to do with the character.

    But this, OMG, fantastic. They did everything right, with very few exceptions. Better than Casino IMO, and right into my Top 5 Bond films. Never expected that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura View Post
    Timothy Dalton was highly underated. In fact he was ahead of his time as Craig sort of followed on. Pity Timothy wasn't in GoldenEye.
    Completely agree with that. Living Daylights is my favourite Bond film. It was unfortunate he finished with LTK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Massive Bond fan, of over 45 years.

    Thought Casino was solid, Quantum empty, and Skyfall and Spectre pretty garbage with poor writing and casting. I especially hate what Sam Mendez (director of the latter two) was trying to do with the character.

    But this, OMG, fantastic. They did everything right, with very few exceptions. Better than Casino IMO, and right into my Top 5 Bond films. Never expected that.
    Interesting, as my views on the Craig films are the same as yours! Will have to watch this latest one then,,,,,

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    Red face

    Really surprised by your opinion but I'm happy you enjoyed it so much. You must have fallen asleep during all the plot holes and 'hey...how did that happen??!!' moments. ;)


    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Massive Bond fan, of over 45 years.

    Thought Casino was solid, Quantum empty, and Skyfall and Spectre pretty garbage with poor writing and casting. I especially hate what Sam Mendez (director of the latter two) was trying to do with the character.

    But this, OMG, fantastic. They did everything right, with very few exceptions. Better than Casino IMO, and right into my Top 5 Bond films. Never expected that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Massive Bond fan, of over 45 years.

    Thought Casino was solid, Quantum empty, and Skyfall and Spectre pretty garbage with poor writing and casting. I especially hate what Sam Mendez (director of the latter two) was trying to do with the character.

    But this, OMG, fantastic. They did everything right, with very few exceptions. Better than Casino IMO, and right into my Top 5 Bond films. Never expected that.
    Couldnít disagree more with this mate!

    For me NTTD just didnít feel like a Bond film. Think it was too heavily influenced by Craigs age and the fact it was his last film - an over emphasis on Bond as a middle aged man, unsure of himself and emotionally fragile. Sorry but thatís not Bond. NTTD isnít a patch on Casino Royale where Bond is Bond - a tough, cocky, self assured, smooth, womanizing MI6 agent, not a lumbering, loved up, tearful hasbeen.

    There were other irritants too, particularly the fact that Dr Swan is such a dreary, monotone leading lady, incredibly hard to like. And yet the agent he worked with at the beginning whilst he was with the Americans was great, but got virtually no screen time. The depiction of M, some of the unnecessary woke stuff.

    In my opinion this was DCís weakest Bond film, Iíd rather watch Quantum than sit through NTTD again.
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    Ha itís good we differ!

    Canít explain my reasoning without going into spoilers, but this ticked a lot of boxes for DCís final outing for me.

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    Very disappointed with this.

    I thought Skyfall was the weakest of the Daniel Craig era but found this to be worse, full of plotholes..

    Action scenes were good but overall it just wasn't Bond for me.

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    So many negative comments, I've not seen it but my mate has, reckoned that the almost 3 hours flew by, nothing bad to say about it at all.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Iíve just come back from seeing it.

    Overlong, pacing was lumpy, script needed a lot of tidying.

    Not enough action, virtually no humour, and the villain was hugely underdeveloped to the extent that it was very unclear what his plans and motivation was. I actually felt some sympathy for him.

    5 out of 10 maximum.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number2 View Post
    So many negative comments, I've not seen it but my mate has, reckoned that the almost 3 hours flew by, nothing bad to say about it at all.
    Yep - the time flies in, itís a great show. People are talking about this like theyíre expecting Antonioni. It is what it is: dad panto!

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    Loved it from the get go and a nod to OHMSS throughout was a nice touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ventura View Post
    After Casino Royale, which was very good, I thought the other Craig Bond films weren't that good. It's not Daniel, who is great, the story etc were poor after CR.

    Personally my favourite Bond films are:

    Goldfinger,
    From Russia with Love,
    The Living Daylights,
    The Spy Who Loved Me,
    Licence to Kill,
    Casino Royale,
    OHMSS,
    GoldenEye.

    Timothy Dalton was highly underated. In fact he was ahead of his time as Craig sort of followed on. Pity Timothy wasn't in GoldenEye.

    I'd pretty much concur with you exactly - even down to the choice of best Bond movies.
    So clever my foot fell off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlyingBanana View Post
    the villain was hugely underdeveloped to the extent that it was very unclear what his plans and motivation was
    100% with you on this; to me, one of the few fails.

    So interesting that this one seems Marmite!

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    Just been to the movies to watch it, still trying to work out why the villain was so under developed. And the ending, wtf?

    Wish Iíd never gone to see it being honest, nothing like a Bond movie, what a shame theyíve sodding ruined that franchise.


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    Loved it but Iím a massive bond whore and DC fan so not much of an objective viewpoint 😂

    I just donít get what most people were expecting, itís Bond FFS, itís not going to win any oscars. Itís like everyone that moans about top gear and grand tour but still tunes in every week to moan about the lack of real car reviews

    My only disappointment was he ordered a shaken martini 🍸 whereas one of my favourite lines in casino royale when proffered such was ďdo I look like I give I damĒ

    Presumably no more bonds now so nothing for people to moan about !

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    Some difference of opinion, then.

    My thinking on Bond is that unless it's really gritty, realistic film-making then you might as well go with humour. It's when there's a queasy mix of the two that it doesn't work.

    Hence my preference for early Connery and early Moore. The former being quite pathological in some scenes and the latter being a parody to an extent. I even prefer Niven to po-faced seriousness when it's clear events are ludicrous but being played straight.

    I liked Craig's ability to pare down the character and his ability to be transparent about his problems. The test fails, the drinking, the mental health issues.

    I would really like to see more transparency still.

    I'll watch this film but perhaps not with the children.

    By the way, I just can't get past Dalton as every time I see him, Flash Gordon quotes go off in my head. Sorry - too much Saturday morning TV.

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    We went to see it yesterday at the local independent cinema. Afternoon showing £7.50 each. Thought it was great entertainment, not too much comedy/tongue in cheek and the time flew by. If I want gritty reality I'll read Solzhenitsyn.
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    I quite enjoyed it but needs a second watch to catch all the details…and refs to earlier films..

    I think what it exposes or highlights is just how good Fleming was as a writer story teller with the classics, the plot comes first then everything fits into place with perilous ‘moments’ along the way….

    Since the advent of Jason Bourne and the Mission Impossible franchises the bar has been lifted on budget and bodycount and creating massive stunts…which are fantastic in many ways but it seems like a game of Top Trumps and “Bond” has had to continually crank up the action to retain position as P1 for action…It feels this need is prioritised over a bloody good story with a classic ‘baddie’…..

    That said the car chases are spectacular opening scene is well superb…
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