Panic buying

[bigvic]

Neither of our local Tesco or Sainsbury's have empty shelves but we've noticed both have their shelves stacked differently.
Stock is spread further along the shelves rather than stacked deeper, the shelves look just as full but there's actually less of it and less choice.

[Skier]

As a root-cause analysis………. That is it - in a nutshell.

As this is the George & Dragon and not the Bear Pit, I'll simply say: 'BS.' (And don't take my comment as any indication as to how I voted in the referendum).

[blackal]

As this is the George & Dragon and not the Bear Pit, I'll simply say: 'BS.' (And don't take my comment as any indication as to how I voted in the referendum).

You make a convincing argument…………………..

[Mr Curta]

Neither of our local Tesco or Sainsbury's have empty shelves but we've noticed both have their shelves stacked differently.
Stock is spread further along the shelves rather than stacked deeper, the shelves look just as full but there's actually less of it and less choice.

I was in Cuba the last time I saw that trick

[dougair]

I was in Cuba the last time I saw that trick

I wish I was back there.

[Dave+63]

I’ve just passed a petrol station (in my electric van) which was closed for fuel earlier today.

Now, everything looks normal, most of the pumps occupied, no queues and cars parked in the bays for shopping.

[mart broad]

Folks this is the G&D if you want to politicise this thread take it to the PIT

[estoban7]

There are no empty shelves or queues for food. At worst there are some products that were absent this morning, some brands of bottled water being the only one I really noticed, not that I buy it. There are queues for petrol despite there being no shortage and caused by scare stories in the media as articulated many, many times in this thread.

Totally agree with this. I've never experienced any empty shelves. I've seen quite a few on here posting pics of empty shelves and wonder where the hell they must shop.

[Mr Curta]

Totally agree with this. I've never experienced any empty shelves. I've seen quite a few on here posting pics of empty shelves and wonder where the hell they must shop.

The local Coop has had low stock of fresh veg, meat and frozen goods for the past couple of weeks but today its the worst I've seen since the first lockdown shenanigans. Maybe a lot of people have shopped nearby to avoid using fuel.

[barneygumble]

Folks this is the G&D if you want to politicise this thread take it to the PIT

Good point - I thought this was a BP thread! Will scuttle back that way now...

[estoban7]

The local Coop has had low stock of fresh veg, meat and frozen goods for the past couple of weeks but today its the worst I've seen since the first lockdown shenanigans. Maybe a lot of people have shopped nearby to avoid using fuel.

Coop, is that even a proper supermarket? Maybe you should try somewhere else.

[Lammylee]

[jwg663]

I was in Cuba the last time I saw that trick

I was in Sainsburys Prestwick.

Instead of stock going to the back of the shelf, there's only one or two rows. Some shelves have cardboard displays to fill them up.

[Chris_in_the_UK]

Locally, Asda have been crap for nearly a year. Aldi, Sainsbury have been great. We have no local Tesco or Morrisons so have no experience of their situation. Local Coop has also been goo but it's a small shop.

[Mr Curta]

Coop, is that even a proper supermarket? Maybe you should try somewhere else.

What a strange post

[M4tt]

What a strange post

I wonder where he gets his chickens from?

[Mr Curta]

The hyphens were out of stock

So were the full stops

[robert75]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ons-close.html

So the daily mail has gone from only a small percent of petrol stations are out of fuel to 90% I am sure this is nothing to do with the DM goading the public into panic buying on a daily basis. Apparently the DM is now telling us that people are panic buying turkeys expecting a shortage for Christmas.

Never mind driver shortage there seems to be a shortage of responsible journalists in this country.

[barneygumble]

Never mind driver shortage there seems to be a shortage of responsible journalists in this country.

Typed a whole message there and realised it was getting political again :)

Yeah, journalists, or more specifically many of the papers they work for, have been rather unreliable for some years.

[Saint-Just]

I was in Sainsburys Prestwick.

Instead of stock going to the back of the shelf, there's only one or two rows. Some shelves have cardboard displays to fill them up.

There is something else: sell-by dates are much, much shorter on fresh foods.

[jaytip]

The hyphens were out of stock

So were the full stops

Blame Tapatalk for that. It does it all the time.

[JasonM]

There is something else: sell-by dates are much, much shorter on fresh foods.

Absolutely noticed that too, we are going to stop our Morrisons delivery as it’s getting so bad, not picking it yourself does give them a opportunity to send out short dated stuff I guess, last week we got a delivery on Saturday and the fresh chicken had that days date on it so we had to have Sunday lunch on Saturday. Emailed to let them know but no reply as yet.

[oldoakknives]

Absolutely noticed that too, we are going to stop our Morrisons delivery as it’s getting so bad, not picking it yourself does give them a opportunity to send out short dated stuff I guess, last week we got a delivery on Saturday and the fresh chicken had that days date on it so we had to have Sunday lunch on Saturday. Emailed to let them know but no reply as yet.

Is there no option to get a refund? On Asda we can simply ask for a refund if dates are too short. Pretty sure our Sainsbury’s account is the same.

[Crammage]

Is there no option to get a refund? On Asda we can simply ask for a refund if dates are too short. Pretty sure our Sainsbury’s account is the same.

Same via Amazon/Morrisons.

[Kirk280]

Is there no option to get a refund? On Asda we can simply ask for a refund if dates are too short. Pretty sure our Sainsbury’s account is the same.

Can we get a refund on Brexit?

[SydR]

On our drive to Linlithgow and back today we passed around a dozen fuel stations and not one had a queue.

However, Sainsbury are citing problems getting fuel for their delivery vehicles as the reason our delivery is running at least three hours and a half late. Should have been here by 7pm and still no sign of it. Called them up and it’s still “en-route”!

[Mr Curta]

I can picture the scene.

"Sorry kids, no Sunday lunch but we did get a refund."

"Oh, okay, cool."

[Lammylee]

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[oldoakknives]

Can we get a refund on Brexit?

Awwww.

[oldoakknives]

Absolutely noticed that too, we are going to stop our Morrisons delivery as it’s getting so bad, not picking it yourself does give them a opportunity to send out short dated stuff I guess, last week we got a delivery on Saturday and the fresh chicken had that days date on it so we had to have Sunday lunch on Saturday. Emailed to let them know but no reply as yet.

Perhaps you need to apply on your account. Seems to work normally with most supermarkets.

Is there no option to get a refund? On Asda we can simply ask for a refund if dates are too short. Pretty sure our Sainsbury’s account is the same.

Same via Amazon/Morrisons.

[JasonM]

Perhaps you need to apply on your account. Seems to work normally with most supermarkets.

The wife runs the app / account and she said that you have to email them, I think you can let the delivery driver know and they can adjust on their delivery zapper thing but we didn’t notice it on delivery.

[Passenger]

Can we get a refund on Brexit?

You gotta receipt mate?

[snowman]

...and a lot would schedule this for off peak cheap rates...

Ah, but how long will there be an off-peak rate once everyone is charging their EVs overnight?

As usual, there are pros and cons to everything.

Today it's fuel shortages, next week it'll be the horrendous price of electricity (or was that last week?).

I was a bit aggrieved to be harangued as a 'w***er' by a drunk in the pub opposite the petrol station I queued at on Saturday.

I did feel a bit of an idiot queuing, but with 3 140 mile round trips over the next few days, I decided to queue while I knew I could get fuel.

At least I wasn't pissed enough to shout at strangers at 4 in the afternoon....

You gotta receipt mate?

To be fair someone pointed out a huge advantage of Brexit - Salaries for HGV drivers have gone up dramatically!


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[RobM]

All this is less about Brexit, and more about people being a bit hard of thinking. I remember the TV interviews with idiots during Covid lockdown, who had travelled across-country to go to the beach and were disappointed that so many people were there, not respecting the stay at home order.

Those same idiots are now well stocked with toilet paper, and spent their weekend queuing outside Shell.

[hogthrob]

My local Teso has all the 'empty shelf' symptoms - products stacked wide and shallow, cardboard shelf fillers, and many shelves half full. My friend who works there says they've never seen the store room so empty.


Another thought - if there really are no shortages, and the problems are caused solely by a lack of HGV drivers, where is all the stuff? If the quantity of goods manufactured and imported is unchanged, and is not in consumers' houses, where is it? Piling up in distribution warehouses? Stuck at the container port? Sitting on ships waiting to be unloaded?

[Seamaster73]

Coop, is that even a proper supermarket? Maybe you should try somewhere else.

The Coop is the public sector of supermarkets.

[estoban7]

I wonder where he gets his chickens from?

Don't know but I bet they were going cheap.

[TheTigerUK]

[Daveya.]

We've run out of hummus crisps at the deli bloody brexit

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[guinea]

Last week the petrol station at the top of my road was closed. As were (intermittently) the two independents about a few miles away. I had to fill up with premium fuel the weekend before last as there wasn't anything else at the BP/M&S 7 miles away.

The fuel distribution problem is real and has been around for at least a couple of weeks (that I've noticed).

This was all before panic buying kicked off, which clearly compounded the issue - but did not cause it.

Blaming people for an entirely rational response to an issue that was clearly happening is deflecting the blame from those it should be directed at. People react the same in every country in the world when faced with shortages of key consumables. Planners know this, and it was all foreseen.

[estoban7]

We've run out of hummus crisps at the deli bloody brexit

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Surely that's a benefit? They sound bloody awful.

[Weirdfish]

Last week the petrol station at the top of my road was closed. As were (intermittently) the two independents about a few miles away. I had to fill up with premium fuel the weekend before last as there wasn't anything else at the BP/M&S 7 miles away.

The fuel distribution problem is real and has been around for at least a couple of weeks (that I've noticed).

This was all before panic buying kicked off, which clearly compounded the issue - but did not cause it.

Blaming people for an entirely rational response to an issue that was clearly happening is deflecting the blame from those it should be directed at. People react the same in every country in the world when faced with shortages of key consumables. Planners know this, and it was all foreseen.

Not sure I agree with all of the above, yes, we knew of driver shortages but the fact that people panicked led to the fuel running out in a majority of stations, if everyone had carried on as normal then this wouldn't have happened, but then we are talking about the good old British public, the same people that Boris trusted to use their common sense at the beginning of the pandemic, lol.
I did like the comment this morning on the radio from a foreign lorry driver, he mentioned about the stickers you see regarding, " a dog is for life not just for xmas " the same goes for lorry drivers.

[Daveya.]

In Europe they get paid more, have better working conditions and are nearer home.

The solution is to make the job financially attractive over here . Same with all the other jobs we have short supply of.

Did anyone really expect these jobs to be filled at the current wages and working conditions in UK kitchens , care homes and on the roads?

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[mondie]

Anyways Brexit might have caused major issues with haulage but it has saved the U.K. fishing industry which I’m lead to believe is now booming!

So swings and roundabouts.

[TheTigerUK]

In Europe they get paid more, have better working conditions and are nearer home.

The solution is to make the job financially attractive over here . Same with all the other jobs we have short supply of.

Did anyone really expect these jobs to be filled at the current wages and working conditions in UK kitchens , care homes and on the roads?

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A serious question, how would all these increases be financed ?

[Daveya.]

A serious question, how would all these increases be financed ?

Well it's easy, we have 350b more a week since Brexit, was written on a bus so must be true, we can use all this spare money

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[oldoakknives]

A serious question, how would all these increases be financed ?

Yes, I wonder how they manage to pay more on the continent?

[ryanb741]

Well it's easy, we have 350b more a week since Brexit, was written on a bus so must be true, we can use all this spare money

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Problem is the bus has run out of fuel

[Tooks]

A serious question, how would all these increases be financed ?

Via the end prices we all pay in the shops/restaurants/care homes etc?

Cheap imported labour has distorted the jobs market in some sectors, it will take a while to correct, but it will.

[robert75]

In Europe they get paid more, have better working conditions and are nearer home.

The solution is to make the job financially attractive over here . Same with all the other jobs we have short supply of.

Did anyone really expect these jobs to be filled at the current wages and working conditions in UK kitchens , care homes and on the roads?

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Not sure where you are referring to in Europe but the exact same tactic of employing cheap Labour from abroad is used as it has been here for the same low wages. I am sure “officially” it all looks wonderful with a high minimum wage, workers rights etc but the reality is very different.