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    My yellow Seestern just arrived, 12 days from order (from their own website) with no taxes to pay. Stupidly good watch for £129.62!

    Case is amazing quality, bracelet is a little sharp on the edges. Bezel is looser to turn than I'd like, and dial lume is a tad misaligned here and there. But for the money, jeez cannot complain.

    And I say all that having had near a dozen modern Doxas... certainly a great tester of said brand for those considering splashing £1,500+

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    My yellow Seestern just arrived, 12 days from order (from their own website) with no taxes to pay. Stupidly good watch for £129.62!

    Case is amazing quality, bracelet is a little sharp on the edges. Bezel is looser to turn than I'd like, and dial lume is a tad misaligned here and there. But for the money, jeez cannot complain.

    And I say all that having had near a dozen modern Doxas... certainly a great tester of said brand for those considering splashing £1,500+
    Thanks I'm going to order an orange dial. Did you have a discount code or was that the exchange rate at the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilF183 View Post
    Thanks I'm going to order an orange dial. Did you have a discount code or was that the exchange rate at the time?
    I got the massive $10 off with that code mentioned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I got the massive $10 off with that code mentioned!
    Ah that doesn't seem to work for me now still worth getting one though I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I got the massive $10 off with that code mentioned!
    Not available now - deal breaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    My yellow Seestern just arrived, 12 days from order (from their own website) with no taxes to pay. Stupidly good watch for £129.62!

    Case is amazing quality, bracelet is a little sharp on the edges. Bezel is looser to turn than I'd like, and dial lume is a tad misaligned here and there. But for the money, jeez cannot complain.

    And I say all that having had near a dozen modern Doxas... certainly a great tester of said brand for those considering splashing £1,500+
    I quite like the bezel action on mine being that bit looser.

    I find myself fiddling with it more.

    ...and the bezel!!

    OHHHH MATRON!!

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    It seems that a common complaint (or observation if you will) about these watches is their dial colours are subdued compared to the original so that's something to consider, I certainly wouldn't have complained if my TF had been a much richer orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewie View Post
    From where did you order
    I’ve bought one from ailexpress

    Direct from the Seestern website it took about 12 too days but I'm a cheapskate and didn't choose express delivery.

    All sized up for my 6 3/4" wrist


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    If anyone is considering buying a tactical frog or Seestern then 100% go for the Seestern as the tactical frog is garbage in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvic View Post
    Direct from the Seestern website it took about 12 too days but I'm a cheapskate and didn't choose express delivery.

    All sized up for my 6 3/4" wrist


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    Lovely, similar wrist size to me, I'm thinking of the orange but the pearl dial with orange bezel looks very nice too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobo View Post
    If anyone is considering buying a tactical frog or Seestern then 100% go for the Seestern as the tactical frog is garbage in comparison.
    Any chance on expanding on that - I'm directing the wife to buy me something like this for my xmas pressie and don't want to be disappointed. I prefer the dial layout of the TF to the Seestern but if there are big quality / reliability issues I can live with the SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian2002 View Post
    Any chance on expanding on that - I'm directing the wife to buy me something like this for my xmas pressie and don't want to be disappointed. I prefer the dial layout of the TF to the Seestern but if there are big quality / reliability issues I can live with the SS

    Quality of the Seestern is much better all round , bracelet & bezel movement are much better as is the finishing on the case.
    The tactical frog feels cheap but the Seestern just feels quality , if I'd paid double the price I'd still be happy.

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    I've not previously heard of Seestern and having just checked their website, they do seem to offer some good value homages.

    The one thing that is possibly unique, well which I've never seen before, is their lumed calendar wheels. For me, that's one of those things when you see it, you wonder why it's not been done before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobo View Post
    If anyone is considering buying a tactical frog or Seestern then 100% go for the Seestern as the tactical frog is garbage in comparison.
    Interesting. I read Dr Peter Millarís comparison review on his website and he seemed impressed by the tactical frog. I donít think he has reviewed the Seestern yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Lovely, similar wrist size to me, I'm thinking of the orange but the pearl dial with orange bezel looks very nice too..
    I liked the look of the MoP dial but first reviews didn't rate it very highly, most said it was a bit dark and dull.

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    For reference, mein Seestern has dropped 8 seconds in 24 hours from its box. Not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    For reference, mein Seestern has dropped 8 seconds in 24 hours from its box. Not bad.
    Sounds good, for the price you could whip the back off and regulate it if it was a bit far out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    I've not previously heard of Seestern and having just checked their website, they do seem to offer some good value homages.

    The one thing that is possibly unique, well which I've never seen before, is their lumed calendar wheels. For me, that's one of those things when you see it, you wonder why it's not been done before.
    I posted this idea on the forum years ago but this is the first Iíve heard of it actually being produced. I guess youíd need to charge the lume with a torch after midnight as it wonít have had any sun exposure during the day as itís been hiding under the dial in darkness. When you think about that itís actually a pretty stupid idea!


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    Right you bunch of b*st*rds, your constant praise for the Seestern means I had to order one. I've gone for the yellow. I didn't think there was much wrong with the Tactical Frog for the money but these sound even better quality and value.

    Pics on arrival....obvs :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    I posted this idea on the forum years ago but this is the first Iíve heard of it actually being produced. I guess youíd need to charge the lume with a torch after midnight as it wonít have had any sun exposure during the day as itís been hiding under the dial in darkness. When you think about that itís actually a pretty stupid idea!


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    You've thought harder about it than me. Lol.

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    I wonder if anyone would be buying these if Seestern, Frog et al used their own designs?

    Itís all well and good saying theyíre brilliant value, but they look exactly like something else, which is a problem for me.

    Obviously Steinhart has built itself a company based on this model, but at least it creates its own designs as well.

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    They seem start out making homages to gain traction and a bit of profit before moving on to their own designs.

    San Martin are a good example of this and I'd say have achieved micro brand status.

    You can see their factory on YouTube and it's a lot more impressive than most micro's.

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    This might be a bit controversial, but having read so mamy rumours over the years about Doxa watches being made in China anyway - and with Doxa being pretty much unknown outside the Wis community, at least here in the UK, I donít think a frog or a Seestern screams Ďhomageí in the same way a Steinhart sub-a-like does, nor does it feel like a cheap alternative to an iconic design (as most people have never seen an original one anyway). Imho the design lends itself to fun, colourful and affordable holiday watch territory and these scratch that itch, especially with the bright dial colours.


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    Agreed. The watch making / buying landscape is changing. At the end of the day thereís plenty of choice for everyone, regardless of opinion or standpoint. If you donít like something then donít buy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    This might be a bit controversial, but having read so mamy rumours over the years about Doxa watches being made in China anyway - and with Doxa being pretty much unknown outside the Wis community, at least here in the UK, I donít think a frog or a Seestern screams Ďhomageí in the same way a Steinhart sub-a-like does, nor does it feel like a cheap alternative to an iconic design (as most people have never seen an original one anyway). Imho the design lends itself to fun, colourful and affordable holiday watch territory and these scratch that itch, especially with the bright dial colours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    Agreed. The watch making / buying landscape is changing. At the end of the day thereís plenty of choice for everyone, regardless of opinion or standpoint. If you donít like something then donít buy it.
    In my case I have over the years been lucky enough to have owned some very nice and some pretty sought after watches, Iam now fairly settled with a collection of just a few I very much enjoy.

    However this year I seemed to have started my WIS journey right from the beginning and I've discovered that many of the new models from the likes of Seestern, SteelDive and Undone have made me enjoy this hobby all over again.

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    Designs are copied in every sector, how many of you are wearing an item of clothing or a pair of shoes that gives a pretty big nod to a designer brand somewhere without even knowing?

    If these watches borrow a design but allow people to own the look without owning a fake and they promote an interest in mechanical watches in people who otherwise wouldn't bother surely that's a good thing.

    From a doxa point of view I doubt they're losing sales and in fact they might gain some. Seiko seem relaxed about supplying makers who copy their designs so little harm done there either.
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    A yellow Seestern has just arrived today and I must say I am very impressed. This is a seriously well finished watch for its £130ish price tag. In fact, the BoR bracelet on it's own would not be over priced at half of that cost.
    For those wondering about HMRC/VAT, I ordered mine from the Seestern website and it arrived via RM 48Hour Tracked from a UK senders address, so no import issue at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobo View Post
    Quality of the Seestern is much better all round , bracelet & bezel movement are much better as is the finishing on the case.
    The tactical frog feels cheap but the Seestern just feels quality , if I'd paid double the price I'd still be happy.
    Thanks - SS it is then.

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    Update:
    Iíve had it pressure tested and it passed at the stated 200m. So far so good.
    I have had a few Doxa Subs, both pre-Jenny/Marei and more recent models, but all gone. Somehow the older watches seemed more like genuine tool watches, possibly because they bore the evidence of years of use.
    My main interest is in older Omega and Heuer watches and brand new watches just donít hold my interest too long. Also, I find that older watches with plenty of patina are more relaxing to wear, despite their value.
    My favourite Doxa, by far, is long gone, but hopefully still within the forum. It was an older, black dial watch with lots of patina. While I generally treat fresh and minty watches with Ďkid glovesí maybe this is one that I can wear in a totally relaxed manner to allow it to gain its own patina. It certainly appears to be robust enough to stand up to a fairly tough life and, while Iím not going to deliberately bash it about, I wonít baby it either. It will be good to see how it survives.

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    I've just ordered a yellow one to be my new daily for when my Sea Dweller comes back from the spa treatment and becomes Sunday best only.
    I paid the extra for courier delivery just hope I don't get hammered for duty and VAT.

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    These would still be a bargain with £40 of fees added.

    Honestly, anyone on the fence, you really ought to just hit the buy button

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    These would still be a bargain with £40 of fees added.

    Honestly, anyone on the fence, you really ought to just hit the buy button
    Been following this thread and would love to order one, where is the best, cheapest and quickest place to order from, from Seestern or Aliexpress?

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    All the Chinese stuff has really got my attention. I feel like a beginner collector again.

    I've bought the big monoblock Steeldive Tuna, the Heimdallr Tuna, the Proxima MM300 and the Seestern, they're all amazing for the money and I still haven't spent half of what I paid for my Oris.

    2 and 3 years warranty with some of these things too. It really is watch collectors dream once you get over the branding hurdle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoSevenNine View Post
    All the Chinese stuff has really got my attention. I feel like a beginner collector again.

    I've bought the big monoblock Steeldive Tuna, the Heimdallr Tuna, the Proxima MM300 and the Seestern, they're all amazing for the money and I still haven't spent half of what I paid for my Oris.

    2 and 3 years warranty with some of these things too. It really is watch collectors dream once you get over the branding hurdle.
    I agree. I also have a Steeldive ĎSKXí that I bought used on SC. The combined price of these two was under £200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevecross View Post
    Been following this thread and would love to order one, where is the best, cheapest and quickest place to order from, from Seestern or Aliexpress?
    Seestern direct was 12 days for me, price circa. £135 if purchased today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevecross View Post
    Been following this thread and would love to order one, where is the best, cheapest and quickest place to order from, from Seestern or Aliexpress?
    Mines coming from Wicked Watch which seems to be in Germany.
    $209 including $30 express shipping just hope in comes in under the radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Seestern direct was 12 days for me, price circa. £135 if purchased today.
    £149 from Aliexpress

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    Does anyone have an Everest and a seestern? If you do could you post a side by side shot or a couple so I can try and gauge a size comparison

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    Well Iíve just Ďpulled the triggerí on an oranged one, pictures when it comes: I bought direct from seestern aka wicked watches and paid the extra $30 for express delivery.
    Great thread and the watches look excellent..God Iím weak!


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    Just received this not happy given they had taken my money with additional £30 for 3 day Express with UPS. :

    Hi Chris,
    Your current order is a bit delayed. We are waiting for watch hands so we can assemble the missing ones.
    We will update you with the tracking info this week.

    I am very sorry about that inconvenience caused.

    Kind regards
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    Update:

    Coco has now replied and updated the website with those Out of Stock untill the next batch of hands have arrived.
    Sales have gone through the roof but fortunately she had 1 left in Teal and has shipped that instead of the yellow I ordered with a free strap,so good comms and CS .
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    I have 3 steeldives and all are amazing value. With the explosion in good quality Chinese watches and microbrands I find I'm spending more of my money in these areas than with more traditional mid to low budget brands.

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    The Steeldive logo reminds me of Goatse, so I won't be buying one. If you don't know the reference, do yourself a favour and do NOT google it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeePee View Post
    Just received this not happy given they had taken my money with additional £30 for 3 day Express with UPS. :

    Hi Chris,
    Your current order is a bit delayed. We are waiting for watch hands so we can assemble the missing ones.
    We will update you with the tracking info this week.

    I am very sorry about that inconvenience caused.

    Kind regards
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    Update:

    Coco has now replied and updated the website with those Out of Stock untill the next batch of hands have arrived.
    Sales have gone through the roof but fortunately she had 1 left in Teal and has shipped that instead of the yellow I ordered with a feww strap,so good comms and CS .
    Doh looks like I put off ordering for too long, I'll have to wait a bit for the orange and not splurge the money on something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by barneygumble View Post
    The Steeldive logo reminds me of Goatse, so I won't be buying one. If you don't know the reference, do yourself a favour and do NOT google it.
    Goatse ... That wasn't yesterday!

    Have a look at the Heimdallr and San Martin offerings maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barneygumble View Post
    The Steeldive logo reminds me of Goatse, so I won't be buying one. If you don't know the reference, do yourself a favour and do NOT google it.
    Yeah... your mind works in a special way doesn't it?

    I can kind of see it now you've pointed it out but only if I squint and am stingy on the mind bleach - which i'm now going to have to re-apply. So thanks for that.

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    Having never heard of Goetse I of course Googled it. There isn't enough bleach in the world to erase that from my mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by julian2002 View Post
    Yeah... your mind works in a special way doesn't it?

    I can kind of see it now you've pointed it out but only if I squint and am stingy on the mind bleach - which I'm now going to have to re-apply. So thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EchoSevenNine View Post
    Have a look at the Heimdallr and San Martin offerings maybe?
    I have a San Martin - for the money, outstanding. Ceramic bezel, sandwich dial...

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    Goatse, meh. The bloke sitting on the jar is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    Goatse, meh. The bloke sitting on the jar is better.
    That's probably a very loose application of the term 'better'.

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    The orange version I ordered from ailexpress arrived today
    Very quick
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