Reply With QuoteThey probably fitted them, what make were they?
I always try to buy decent branded tyres for my car and just had an ad come up on face book for a 44k 6 year old top of the range Range Rover from a main dealer that had cheap nasty tyres fitted would it put you off buying it ? I would be wondering what else the owner had skimped on on such an expensive car
They probably fitted them, what make were they?
I think they were called devanti or something it’s something I’ve always found odd about main dealers they have the most expensive cars but never miss an opportunity to penny pinch which makes them no better than some back street arthur daily outfit
I know nothing about them or ever heard of them, I suspect Dave O does but tbh they sound awful. Probably a cheap rebranded tyre made somewhere in Asia.
They all have pass EN or BS standards presumably?
Unless you’re Pentti Arikkala I don’t see what odds it makes ?
Loads of reason, how they wear, noise levels, how they disperse water, how they operate when cold.Originally Posted by Wolfie
It’s how it looks more than anything a high performance expensive car with cheapo tyres sets alarm bells ringing with me as I said what else has been skimped on if someone is too tight to put premium tyres on a premium car?
They are very decent mid-priced tyres.
Reviews are good too. I have them on my Civic S. Definitely not cheap and nasty in my opinion.
Why not ask the dealer?
There are many many decent mid brand tyres you’ll never have heard of that are put on big SUV type stuff in the states
But if you’re put off - ask them to change them for something you’re comfortable with
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When I bought my sons car it had cheap no name Malaysian tires on it, I made the put tyres on I had heard of.
All tyres work……………until it gets cold and wet
I would dream of putting so called budget or even “mid range” tyres on a car
I suppose you could look at it like that, on the other hand that is where the Highway Code stopping distances came from, the worst case!
I saw a lot of sets of these going through my parts dept going on second hand cars in the dealer, ok not prime brand but never had any complaints, you want cheap tyres get Triangle from China, wouldn’t put them on a wheel barrow.
I assume you mean "wouldn't"? They've done well for me and lasted. As for cold and wet, I don't rely entirely on tyres, but my driving skills.
Agree. Many things to save money on, tyres aren't one of them.
I would have though as ex police you’d know that when someone jumps out in front of you and you’re relying on what’s between your car wheels and the ground your driving skill as little to do with it.
That's fair enough but were they being put on 44 grand 3 tonne range rover autobiographys that could do 150 mph
Then you really should not be giving advice on tyres, seriously.
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You, of all people should know better.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Know better than what?
He made a typo error which I picked up on. All I've said is Divanti tyres are ok for a mid range price and driving skills come into it and just not solely tyres in wet and cold.
So what is your point Chris?
Stick the best tyres on you can afford and really, in the grand scheme of things and bearing in mind it's only a thin strip of rubber on each corner that keeps you on the road, it's not worth skimping on your safety for a few quid. Doesn't matter how good a driver you are, when something unexpected happens and you need to stop in time or avoid it, you need the best tyres on your car. And that's not necessarily the tyre the manufacturer recommends, and definitely not the tyre the non-specialist garage recommends.
Incidentally it may be the garage fitting the cheapest tyres they can find to make the car saleable. My father-in-law bought a s/h Yeti and asked for the front tyres to be replaced due to low tread. They stuck on the cheapest tyres they could presumably find.
"A man of little significance"
My point is simple, people who buy cheap tyres are unlikely to have professional driving skills - to suggest otherwise (presuming you drove under blue lights) is clumsy at best.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Have them on my discovery 5, I’d never heard of them, not had any problems with them. Did get one plugged after a puncture, I priced them before getting it plugged and the weren’t that much cheaper than Pirelli.
I understand what you are saying and my Divanti tyres have served me very well. I have passed advanced Police driving tests, been involved with Road Safety division whilst in the job and certainly know a decent tyre from a cheap one. I don't need to be told my driving skills are unprofessional either
I did not suggest they were!!
My point (badly made?) was that suggesting that driving skills can compensate for tyres that are not a premium brand was not great advice to the average driver - nothing more.
Last edited by Chris_in_the_UK; 24th August 2021 at 22:06.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I never suggested that.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
If you’re hanking down the road at 70 mph and someone jumps out in front of you it doesn’t matter if you’re a member of the IAM and have the latest trickery to bring you to a stop, the single most important thing is what you’ve got between the car and the road.
You are wasting your time pal.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
Lets face it, what with autonomous braking the driver doesn’t even have to be party to that anymore so the point is even more sided.
I buy 80k tyres a year and have done a lot of tyre testing
As stated it’s wet weather performance and stopping distances that are often the different between budget / mid range and premium tyres.
Personally I’d buy the best your comfortable with, there’s four small contact patches keeping you on the road and if you need to brake / turn suddenly you want the best performance possible
I never even knew this existed, I always go with speed, load and temperature, for instance on the tyres on my Noble it says do not use below 9c
https://www.merityre.co.uk/tyres/tyre-labelling
Good video https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/...res-tested.htm
Last edited by adrianw; 25th August 2021 at 07:54.
I can only speak from experience. I’ve used Davanti tyres on a few vehicles, including high performance and my wife’s 4x4. I found them to be very good with excellent wear properties and quiet on the road. I do around 30,000 miles per year so certainly wouldn’t be risking anything I didn’t have confidence in.
Most of the mid range tyre brands are actually owned by the big boys, just being produced in countries/factories where the labour cost is less.
Neil
Your tyres will have a Traction rating.
What are the different traction ratings available in the U.K. and what differences did your testing reveal? What were the tests?
Clue, there is a minimum traction rating allowed on tyres in the U.K.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
I'm not keen at all on 'cheap nasty tyres'. In the overall costs of motoring the additional amount you spend to have decent quality tyres is negligable and the peace of mind they give is well worth it.
R
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One thing regarding tyre cost is to shop around, I know it sounds obvious but people don't, because it's hassle , if you buy online you might have to find someone to fit them, last year I needed two tyres for my Merc, Oponeo were £160 per tyre cheaper than the local suppliers, I queried the price with one literally opposite my office, the response was "we're busy enough, we don't need to discount heavily"
Also companies like Kwik-Fit are selling own brand budget tyres and pushing them as they make better margins.
It depends on the usage of the car Ralph (IMO)
For 15-16 years I was a taxi driver and my average speed over a 10-12 hour shift was about 16mph. It’s the worst possible driving for tyre wear and tear (other than on a circuit) because you are stopping/starting/three point turns etc all day. If a set of front tyres last 10K you are doing ok.
As such I used budget tyres because the extra breaking performance of a premium tyre is all but null and void due to the slow speed in which I’m travelling.
I don't know.anything about these tyres, but it comes as little surprise that people are suggesting 'good' is the preserve of expensive, well known brands on a watch forum...
M
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It wouldn't put me off buying the car, but I would price in new tyres to the overall purchase price. In fact, just last week me and the Mrs did exactly this with a Skoda Superb we've bought. The dealer is proudly telling us it has brand new tyres, but they're budget crap with reviews and ratings saying they're Ok at best in the dry, and poor in the wet. We factored the cost of tyres into the purchase and it'll soon have all four replaced, along with a four-wheel alignment check and reset.
IMO, tyres are the one thing you don't skimp on, and the bigger and heavier the car is the more I believe this is true.
I think that’s pretty much true, but in the U.K. there are few real stinkers when it comes to tyres.
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Like you said, you know nothing about tyres!
I take your point, but what about the wear and tear improvement that non-budget tyres can achieve?
R
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Perhaps there are, but that's why I stick (no pun intended) to quality tyres.
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Some people just don’t care or understand. My neighbour has only ever put on part worn tyres on all of his cars, his view, don’t see the point of paying for new branded tyres as we only use the cars to pootle around town.
This is the same guy who a few years back drove up a pavement and through the front wall of a house, claimed he turned the wheel but the car just kept going straight!
I tend to buy my cars new and usually there is a premium brand fitted to the car when new. They do give a bit more mileage normally but it’s very little. They certainly don’t give double the mileage but are often double the cost or more.
Ironically I do fit premium winter tyres (Nokian) on my winter wheels though.
Don't most part warn tyres come from countries where the minimum tread depth is much higher than the UK, like Germany where it is 3mm and Czech Republic at 4mm
Davanti are a decent mid range British tyre with an excellent guarantee
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How do people know these 'mid-range' tyres are less good than so-called 'premium' tyres. Is it just the price or they've studied loads of reviews or taken in by marketing guff?
Indeed, if all tyres were excellent there'd still be 'mid-range' tyres.
Last edited by Kingstepper; 25th August 2021 at 10:02.
this is interesting, the wet weather braking is a bit of an eye opener, and this is premium tyres
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/...-Tyre-Test.htm
So is this, who owns who
https://tyres.rezulteo.co.uk/blog/ty...ich-group-5576
Last edited by adrianw; 25th August 2021 at 10:00.
If your considering a Range Rover there is more to worry about than a set of slippery ditch finders!
Are they not an English marketing company with the tyres made in China?
Dave O to the thread, Dave O to the thread.
Cheers..
Jase
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