closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 29 of 29

Thread: Royal Navy ship off the Dorset coast today?

  1. #1
    Grand Master Onelasttime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Everywhere, yet nowhere...
    Posts
    11,321

    Royal Navy ship off the Dorset coast today?

    We were on the beach at Cogden today and saw this huge ship going back and forth before it headed out into the Channel at about 6pm.

    I thought maybe someone might know what it was and why it was there? All I could find was the story about the Russian aircraft carrier being escorted through the English Channel on the 16-17th August.

    Sorry my photos are rubbish but it was a long way off and it's only an iPhone 8.






    We saw a low flying Chinook following the coastline at Seatown yesterday if that has anything to do with it? And I know there is the Marine Commando base up the road.

    TIA

  2. #2
    Looks like HMS Prince of Wales

  3. #3
    Master Sinnlover's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    London
    Posts
    8,100
    It’s HMS Queen Elizabeth II Aircraft Carrier (or the Prince of Wales sister ship)
    Last edited by Sinnlover; 25th August 2021 at 21:42.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    We were on the beach at Cogden today and saw this huge ship going back and forth before it headed out into the Channel at about 6pm.

    I thought maybe someone might know what it was and why it was there? All I could find was the story about the Russian aircraft carrier being escorted through the English Channel on the 16-17th August.

    Sorry my photos are rubbish but it was a long way off and it's only an iPhone 8.






    We saw a low flying Chinook following the coastline at Seatown yesterday if that has anything to do with it? And I know there is the Marine Commando base up the road.

    TIA
    The twin island silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier. As HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently upsetting the Chinese by approaching the South China sea, that narrows it down to HMS Prince of Wales.
    Last edited by zippy; 28th August 2021 at 19:45.

  5. #5
    Grand Master Onelasttime's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Everywhere, yet nowhere...
    Posts
    11,321
    I knew people on here would know, thanks

    My lad will be pleased - he was fascinated by it.

    Does anyone know why it was there? It looked like helicopters were taking off and landing, but as I say, it was a long way off.

    Is it based at Portsmouth when it's not active?

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I knew people on here would know, thanks

    My lad will be pleased - he was fascinated by it.

    Does anyone know why it was there? It looked like helicopters were taking off and landing, but as I say, it was a long way off.

    Is it based at Portsmouth when it's not active?
    https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/de...e-city-3359778

    I saw her too, off the Devon coast this morning.

    R
    Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I knew people on here would know, thanks

    My lad will be pleased - he was fascinated by it.

    Does anyone know why it was there? It looked like helicopters were taking off and landing, but as I say, it was a long way off.

    Is it based at Portsmouth when it's not active?
    Prepping for Ops with 814 NAS.

  8. #8
    It's funny because we see chinooks and other military helicopters so often we wonder if something big is happening when it goes all quiet!

  9. #9
    Master brigant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Near the sea
    Posts
    1,318
    You can tell it's British. Got no planes 😀😀

  10. #10
    Grand Master PickleB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    M25 J6 UK
    Posts
    17,074
    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    The twin islands silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier. As HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently upsetting the Chinese by approaching the South China sea , that narrows it down to HMS Prince of Wales.
    The Prince of Wales is due to arrive in Portsmouth tomorrow, Thursday, see link (serials 10 and 14).
    Last edited by PickleB; 25th August 2021 at 22:44.

  11. #11
    Master
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    South West, UK
    Posts
    1,959
    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    The twin islands silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier. As HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently upsetting the Chinese by approaching the South China sea , that narrows it down to HMS Prince of Wales.
    How quickly could they take her out if they wanted? I cant imagine something that size would have any defence against modern tech

  12. #12
    Grand Master markrlondon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    24,555
    Blog Entries
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodder View Post
    How quickly could they take her out if they wanted? I can’t imagine something that size would have any defence against modern tech
    That particular something "that size" IS the most modern of "modern tech" and as such it is well defended and escorted from all feasible threats, airborne, surface, submarine, fire, NBC, etc.. Remember also that defence is not only about 'kinetics', e.g. shooting down enemy missiles or aircraft, it is also about how to avoid being targeted and how to evade, confuse or avoid weapons should they be fired against it.

    Whilst the Chinese could destroy it (as they could destroy any single carrier belonging to any country), they could not destroy it easily (and especially not without starting WW3).
    Last edited by markrlondon; 25th August 2021 at 23:22.

  13. #13
    HMS Elizabeth is not travelling alone https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...n-the-pacific/

  14. #14
    Grand Master number2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North and South.
    Posts
    27,049
    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    The twin islands silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier. As HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently upsetting the Chinese by approaching the South China sea , that narrows it down to HMS Prince of Wales.
    This ^^^^^^
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

  15. #15
    Grand Master number2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North and South.
    Posts
    27,049
    Quote Originally Posted by brigant View Post
    You can tell it's British. Got no planes 😀😀
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

  16. #16
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    282
    Loose lips ..

  17. #17
    Master subseastu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Ashby, uk
    Posts
    2,095
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    That particular something "that size" IS the most modern of "modern tech" and as such it is well defended and escorted from all feasible threats, airborne, surface, submarine, fire, NBC, etc.. Remember also that defence is not only about 'kinetics', e.g. shooting down enemy missiles or aircraft, it is also about how to avoid being targeted and how to evade, confuse or avoid weapons should they be fired against it.

    Whilst the Chinese could destroy it (as they could destroy any single carrier belonging to any country), they could not destroy it easily (and especially not without starting WW3).
    This. When I worked in the RFA carriers where generally held in the centre (zulu zulu) of a ring of other vessels and subs that provided a defense cordon around the carrier. Even 25 years ago the tech was there to reduce radar returns of quite sizable ships to that of say a fishing vessel.

  18. #18
    Master newsboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Yorkshire
    Posts
    2,137
    Blog Entries
    3
    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    This. When I worked in the RFA carriers where generally held in the centre (zulu zulu) of a ring of other vessels and subs that provided a defense cordon around the carrier. Even 25 years ago the tech was there to reduce radar returns of quite sizable ships to that of say a fishing vessel.
    This is why I love this forum so much, learn something new everyday

  19. #19
    Master thieuster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    GMT+1
    Posts
    9,443
    Blog Entries
    1
    The twin islands silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier.
    Having a former submarine commander among my friends, I can safely say (on his behalf) that this silhouette is a dream for every submarine captain! Paraphrasing his words: '...the British did their enemies a great favour with this shape.' And yes, Dutch submarine people have a name for 'sinking the enemy'.

    My friend was one of the officers (not the captain yet) on the Walrus during this slaughter of the US Navy.

    https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dutch...d-more.142292/

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by zippy View Post
    The twin islands silhouette gives it away as a British aircraft carrier. As HMS Queen Elizabeth is currently upsetting the Chinese by approaching the South China sea , that narrows it down to HMS Prince of Wales.
    Worked on both, sea trials on POW.
    As above, the twin island design gives it away.

  21. #21
    This popped up in my youtube feed. HMS Queen Elizabeth and her carrier strike force currently off Okinawa.

    Last edited by zippy; 26th August 2021 at 19:03.

  22. #22
    Master subseastu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Ashby, uk
    Posts
    2,095
    Quote Originally Posted by newsboy View Post
    This is why I love this forum so much, learn something new everyday
    I could tell you more but then I'd have to kill you

  23. #23
    We happened to be in Portsmouth to visit HMS Victory on Sunday and were told the 12:15 harbour tour was cancelled as the Prince of Wales was leaving them.
    Not planned at all, but watched much of the process of the tugs rotating her from the poop deck of the Victory.

    Was a great day out, I'd not been since before the Mary Rose was raised but now my kiddos are the same age I was then I forced it on them as part of our holiday. Surprisingly they were really engaged, spent much longer looking at exhibits than I expected with no complaints.
    I remembered there being very little headroom on the Victory from when I was 8 or 9, now I'm a six foot four adult it was ridiculous!
    Last edited by Crazytrain; 27th August 2021 at 11:31.

  24. #24
    Well Tapatalk shafted that photo didn't it. Maybe it's still recognisably the same ship in this crop...

  25. #25
    Master Possu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    3,446
    First pic made me think fondly of Legoland.

  26. #26
    Grand Master snowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Hampshire
    Posts
    13,328
    No surface ship is safe really, all you need to do is drop a nuke in the area and jobs done, but our aircraft carriers are arguably far better value than nuclear subs which Ill never be used.

    Aircraft carriers have a military purpose of course, but are also excellent for providing humanitarian aid in moments of political or natural disasters and a fine weapon in the battle for hearts and minds.

    M
    Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?

  27. #27
    Grand Master PickleB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    M25 J6 UK
    Posts
    17,074
    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    No surface ship is safe really, all you need to do is drop a nuke in the area and jobs done, but our aircraft carriers are arguably far better value than nuclear subs which Ill never be used.

    Aircraft carriers have a military purpose of course, but are also excellent for providing humanitarian aid in moments of political or natural disasters and a fine weapon in the battle for hearts and minds.

    M
    What sank ARA General Belgrano?

  28. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    I think he was referring to nuclear armed rather than just nuclear powered.

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by markrlondon View Post
    it is well defended and escorted from all feasible threats, airborne, surface, submarine, fire, NBC, etc..
    ..........vulnerable to attack by paramotor, though..........




Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information