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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post

    And with oil price at over $100 a barrel they will undoubtedly have the funds to try and attract the highest profile players, albeit those past their prime in the absence of champions league.

    But then again I may be completely wrong and am being overly cynical.
    Financial Fair Play rules apply so we will be limited to the funds available. I don't think "big" names will be arriving in the summer. Lucas Paqueta would be my first choice. The last thing needed would be a "big" name with a poor attitude arriving and disrupting the excellent team spirit that has been apparent since November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Abu Dhabi didn’t purchase Manchester City
    Quite true just like Mohammed bin Salman has not purchased Newcastle United.

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    Weird the way this wasn't on the front of every Tory rag or in fact the prime minister didn't comment on it isn't it?



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    A number of pubs in Bristol holding a 3 day ‘Anti-Jubilee’ party. Liverpool fans to blame again 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crammage View Post
    A number of pubs in Bristol holding a 3 day ‘Anti-Jubilee’ party. Liverpool fans to blame again 😂
    Lock up your statues……

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    Liverpool’s starting 11 tonight really showed they have depth in the squad.

    For them to take it the title to the last weekend of the season is testament to Klopp and the players, who in January some 14 points behind Man City could have believed it was a foregone conclusion.

    I do not think City will slip up, but credit to both teams and the entertaining football they play and hats off to both managers stand are a world apart from all others currently managing.

    Regardless of who wins the title my respect to both teams for making it as entertaining and as close as they have yet again.

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    Received this yesterday and no idea as to it’s accuracy but very interesting. It would be even better if it incorporated wage costs as well as transfers (perhaps it already does). Wouldn’t it be great if a handicapping system was introduced to level the field - so the bigger spending clubs start a season on a sliding scale of minus points

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    well done to liverpool for taking it to the last day - though I must say Jamie Redknapp lovin for klopp was cringy and there is a real desire among the media for Liverpool to do it - I hope City win it

    In other notes and away from the PL - the idiot who headbutted Billy sharp in the forest win is everything thats wrong with football

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    Have we any idea why the booing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halitosis View Post
    Received this yesterday and no idea as to it’s accuracy but very interesting. It would be even better if it incorporated wage costs as well as transfers (perhaps it already does). Wouldn’t it be great if a handicapping system was introduced to level the field - so the bigger spending clubs start a season on a sliding scale of minus points
    Everton would be relegated on a minus points system

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikGixer750 View Post
    Just a disgraceful performance from Arsenal, showed nothing, did not even seem to care! Pepe came on lost the ball and the camera zoomed in on him giving a "I don't care" shrug. 1 shot on target in what was our biggest game of the season! Yes, Newcastle played amazingly but still Arsenal needed to show some spirit. Martenelli came on and showed some urgency but that was about it.

    Arteta needs to go, I have said it all season. Look at all the other top teams, they have proven top managers, Arteta is nothing but an inexperienced arrogant fool. How many players has he fallen out with and then sold or loaned out, he is like Jose but without any history of being a good manager. I cant image any top players wanting to come to Arsenal, for the manager or the team. Next season will be a huge struggle even for a top 6 spot.
    It certainly was a bit Spursy, wasn't it

    Whether it's Arsenal or Spurs in 5th spot come Sunday evening, next season will see Newcastle in the mix for European places, making entry into the CL even more difficult. Assuming we hang onto Conte (or at worst see a Conte/Pochettino "swap") I think that's when Arteta is likely to get found out - or, perhaps, found out again. FWIW, I agree that his arrogance is greater than his talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Liverpool’s starting 11 tonight really showed they have depth in the squad.

    For them to take it the title to the last weekend of the season is testament to Klopp and the players, who in January some 14 points behind Man City could have believed it was a foregone conclusion.

    I do not think City will slip up, but credit to both teams and the entertaining football they play and hats off to both managers stand are a world apart from all others currently managing.

    Regardless of who wins the title my respect to both teams for making it as entertaining and as close as they have yet again.
    I'd agree with you, save that Conte is in that mix as well. His points tally since arriving, with a substantially inferior squad proves it, as do his results against Liverpool and City this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Have we any idea why the booing ?
    It goes back to issues with tory government in the 80s - the irony of match going fans is that half of them wont even be aware why they are doing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    I'd agree with you, save that Conte is in that mix as well. His points tally since arriving, with a substantially inferior squad proves it, as do his results against Liverpool and City this season.
    Conte is top class manager without doubt. Would I put him on par with Klopp and Pep? If I am completely honest it would not be an easy question to answer, I can not emphatically say I wouldn't but equally I am not so sure I could. Time will tell I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Conte is top class manager without doubt. Would I put him on par with Klopp and Pep? If I am completely honest it would not be an easy question to answer, I can not emphatically say I wouldn't but equally I am not so sure I could. Time will tell I suppose.
    Well, had I remembered to mention his track record prior to coming to Tottenham the case may have been more compelling, but yes, I understand where you're coming from. I do think he's their equal, though, or at least also on a different level to everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    It goes back to issues with tory government in the 80s - the irony of match going fans is that half of them wont even be aware why they are doing it
    Again not a Liverpool fan but I’m certain they’ll all know exactly why they’re booing.

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    I'm in Milan currently and talking to Italian colleagues about Conte. The view locally is he is a superb manager if he isn't working with superstars but if he has a bunch of egos to manage it is a disaster. He is apparently known for overwhelming micromanagement, calling players at 3am asking if they are having sex with their wives, or at 6am in the morning asking what they are eating for breakfast and it is very intrusive and obsessive, however his ability to apply a clear 'point and click' approach for young/developing players to learn a system is incredible. But stick Ronaldo, Mbappe etc in his team and fireworks would go off

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    December 2021 rock bottom with 7 points from 14 games . . .





    Fast forward to today and in 12th place with 46 points and a real possibility of a top half finish.
    Something interesting I noted:

    On the Dec. 21 table, NUFC are scoring at a rate of 1.142 goals per game - 16 goals in 14 games.

    As it stands today, NUFC have scored 42 goals in 37 games: that's a scoring rate of 1.135: a slight drop from the Dec. 21 figure.

    From Dec. 21 to today, NUFC has scored 26 goals in 23 games - a rate of 1.130: a further drop.

    Goals conceded is where the difference is at: Dec. 21 NUFC had conceded 30 goals in their 14 matches - a rate of 2.142.

    Today's figures: 61 goals in 37 matches - a rate of 1.648.

    Dec. 21 to today - 31 goals in 23 games: a concession rate of 1.347 goals per game. (That figure includes conceding 5 to both THFC & MCFC since Christmas which rather skews the figures.)

    Who's the NUFC player of the year? Joelinton. Dan Burn must be spitting feathers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I'm in Milan currently and talking to Italian colleagues about Conte. The view locally is he is a superb manager if he isn't working with superstars but if he has a bunch of egos to manage it is a disaster. He is apparently known for overwhelming micromanagement, calling players at 3am asking if they are having sex with their wives, or at 6am in the morning asking what they are eating for breakfast and it is very intrusive and obsessive, however his ability to apply a clear 'point and click' approach for young/developing players to learn a system is incredible. But stick Ronaldo, Mbappe etc in his team and fireworks would go off
    Interesting perspective, although not entirely supported by his track record (Chelsea being a case in point). That said, he tends not to stay anywhere particularly long, so who knows?

    (Luckily, we have no prima donnas in our squad anyway.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    December 2021 rock bottom with 7 points from 14 games . . .





    Fast forward to today and in 12th place with 46 points and a real possibility of a top half finish.
    Well if Villa can do the same to Burnley at Villa Park tonight as they did at Turf Moor last week and you guys go all out for that top half finish, I’ll be a happy man come Sunday evening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Well if Villa can do the same to Burnley at Villa Park tonight as they did at Turf Moor last week and you guys go all out for that top half finish, I’ll be a happy man come Sunday evening!
    Me too! A little bit of hope is almost worse than none! If we do stay up I’m predicting Burnley to win tomorrow, then lose to a 94th minute goal In the last game while we go down to ten men and a goal behind before rallying and scoring a 94th minute winner- we never do it the easy way! Mot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I'm in Milan currently and talking to Italian colleagues about Conte. The view locally is he is a superb manager if he isn't working with superstars but if he has a bunch of egos to manage it is a disaster. He is apparently known for overwhelming micromanagement, calling players at 3am asking if they are having sex with their wives, or at 6am in the morning asking what they are eating for breakfast and it is very intrusive and obsessive, however his ability to apply a clear 'point and click' approach for young/developing players to learn a system is incredible. But stick Ronaldo, Mbappe etc in his team and fireworks would go off
    That is a very old school method of management, which was employed very succesfully by the likes of Fergie.

    I did not know it still existed in todays managers and if what you say about Conte is true then it clearly does. How agreeable the modern player is to that style of management is the question, I personally am a fan of that level of discipline and feel that it is lacking in the modern player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmog6uk View Post
    Me too! A little bit of hope is almost worse than none! If we do stay up I’m predicting Burnley to win tomorrow, then lose to a 94th minute goal In the last game while we go down to ten men and a goal behind before rallying and scoring a 94th minute winner- we never do it the easy way! Mot.
    I think I’d best check the insurance policies, I don’t think I could survive that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    I'm in Milan currently and talking to Italian colleagues about Conte. The view locally is he is a superb manager if he isn't working with superstars but if he has a bunch of egos to manage it is a disaster. He is apparently known for overwhelming micromanagement, calling players at 3am asking if they are having sex with their wives, or at 6am in the morning asking what they are eating for breakfast and it is very intrusive and obsessive, however his ability to apply a clear 'point and click' approach for young/developing players to learn a system is incredible. But stick Ronaldo, Mbappe etc in his team and fireworks would go off
    That is a very old school method of management, which was employed very succesfully by the likes of Fergie.

    I did not know it still existed in todays managers and if what you say about Conte is true then it clearly does.

    I personally am a fan of that level of discipline and feel that it is lacking in the modern player, though it can be a little too intrusive as in the example you gave, if true!

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    Interesting analysis, thanks. Yes, Joelinton is player of the year. A truly remarkable turnaround.

    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    Something interesting I noted:

    On the Dec. 21 table, NUFC are scoring at a rate of 1.142 goals per game - 16 goals in 14 games.

    As it stands today, NUFC have scored 42 goals in 37 games: that's a scoring rate of 1.135: a slight drop from the Dec. 21 figure.

    From Dec. 21 to today, NUFC has scored 26 goals in 23 games - a rate of 1.130: a further drop.

    Goals conceded is where the difference is at: Dec. 21 NUFC had conceded 30 goals in their 14 matches - a rate of 2.142.

    Today's figures: 61 goals in 37 matches - a rate of 1.648.

    Dec. 21 to today - 31 goals in 23 games: a concession rate of 1.347 goals per game. (That figure includes conceding 5 to both THFC & MCFC since Christmas which rather skews the figures.)

    Who's the NUFC player of the year? Joelinton. Dan Burn must be spitting feathers.

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    Good luck to Rangers tonight. Hope that they can pull it off.

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    Frankfurt!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    And the team is pretty much the same with no marquee signings.

    Just shows the difference a decent manager makes Bob. Howe is light years ahead of gormless Geordie Bruce.

    If NU get rid of him it will be a travesty .

    I believe the owners have too much integrity for that Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    Good luck to Rangers tonight. Hope that they can pull it off.
    Gutted. So close.

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I believe the owners have too much integrity for that Neil.
    Brutal!

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    My word Everton's position as scores stand currently is a very dangerous one

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    My word Everton's position as scores stand currently is a very dangerous one
    Amazing scenes

    Aaaaaaand safe ��
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Amazing scenes

    Aaaaaaand safe 👍
    Amazing turnaround, fair play to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoat View Post
    Amazing scenes

    Aaaaaaand safe ��
    Final day for us Leeds fans looks tricky now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmog6uk View Post
    Final day for us Leeds fans looks tricky now!
    I would contend that you have a better chance of a result against Brentford than Burnley do against Newcastle albeit they're at home.

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    Bloody hell been sweating tonight. Well done blue boys stunning comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    I would contend that you have a better chance of a result against Brentford than Burnley do against Newcastle albeit they're at home.
    As a Leeds fan I’d love to agree, but Leeds are struggling to score goals and you need to do that to win. Hate to say it but barring a minor miracle I think Leeds are championship- bound.

    At this stage of the season the table doesn’t lie and much as it pains me to say it Leeds are in this position because they are one of the 3 or 4 worst teams in the division. Without better quality players trying to play Bielsa-ball was never going to end in success.

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    As a Leeds fan I’d love to agree, but Leeds are struggling to score goals and you need to do that to win. Hate to say it but barring a minor miracle I think Leeds are championship- bound.

    At this stage of the season the table doesn’t lie and much as it pains me to say it Leeds are in this position because they are one of the 3 or 4 worst teams in the division. Without better quality players trying to play Bielsa-ball was never going to end in success.
    I think you will both lose and get relegated on goal difference, which is a poor way to go.

    Did not watch the game but seeing reports of Vieira kicking a fan, could be an interested fall out.

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    Did not watch the game but seeing reports of Vieira kicking a fan, could be an interested fall out.
    Nice old school clatter from Vieira went from being surrounded to having space... I expect to see the lad with compo face appearing on the DM website shortly, saying was minding his own business sat in the stadium...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Pox View Post
    Nice old school clatter from Vieira went from being surrounded to having space... I expect to see the lad with compo face appearing on the DM website shortly, saying was minding his own business sat in the stadium...
    Whilst not condoning Viera's actions, we have to accept that professional sports people are still human beings.

    Being goaded by a low life, albeit elated supporter, putting his middle finger in your face whilst recording on his mobile phone, all whilst being on the football pitch the scum has no right to be on, will inevitably risk a reaction from the person whose face said finger is in, no?

    I personally think Viera was remarkably restrained under the circumstances.
    Last edited by tango; 20th May 2022 at 10:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Whilst not condoning Viera's actions, we have to accept that professional sports people are still human beings.

    Being goaded by a low life, albeit elated supporter, putting his middle finger in your face whilst recording on his mobile phone, all whilst being on the football pitch the scum has no right to be on, will inevitably risk a reaction from the person whose face said finger is in, no?

    I personally think Viera was remarkably restrained under the circumstances.
    Wow what has happened to Everton. Huge pitch invasion because they have just about stayed up.

    Regards the 'Elated supporter' what a twonk. It isn't even like palace were going down in their place. Why be so aggressive towards him i don't know. The fan is lucky Viera didn't get hold of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    Whilst not condoning Viera's actions, we have to accept that professional sports people are still human beings.

    Being goaded by a low life, albeit elated supporter, putting his middle finger in your face whilst recording on his mobile phone, all whilst being on the football pitch the scum has no right to be on, will inevitably risk a reaction from the person whose face said finger is in, no?

    I personally think Viera was remarkably restrained under the circumstances.
    I agree, the “fan” was a pratt and deserved a kick

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    Well this will be an interesting challenge for premier League, can't see how everton survive, surely they will get a points deduction unless Leeds and Burnley are paid off

    Looks like premier League and Everton hoped no-one would notice or any punishment was next season.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewitt13 View Post
    Well this will be an interesting challenge for premier League, can't see how everton survive, surely they will get a points deduction unless Leeds and Burnley are paid off

    Looks like premier League and Everton hoped no-one would notice or any punishment was next season.





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    Interesting indeed, just when Everton fans were breathing a sigh of relief they now have this hanging over their heads.

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    Never even thought of a points reduction. My money would be on it not happening though.

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    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/po...premier-league

    I’m not a Chelsea fan but found this was a nice goodbye letter by all standards.

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    Just back from Seville. That stadium is crumbling and I don’t know how it was awarded a euro final.
    40 degrees in Seville before the game and police were taking water off everybody that was entering the stadium. Police were also taking inhalers, ear pods, power banks and sun cream off folk, all things that are not on UEFA’s banned list.
    Kiosks ran out of water half hour before the game started and by time they had restocked the game was in extra time, and the price had went up from €3 to €5. I seen folk passed out on the concourse. The police were telling folk to drink from the toilet taps, they were eventually turned off as well..
    UEFA really are a shambles but most folk that follow football know that already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    Frankfurt!!!!!!
    What a roller coaster few days for you. From the sheer elation of Rangers getting beat in a Euro final to the utter despair that not one Rangers supporter out of over 100,000 in Seville got arrested.
    Ranger are living rent free in your head.
    You are a sad individual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedyexplorer View Post
    What a roller coaster few days for you. From the sheer elation of Rangers getting beat in a Euro final to the utter despair that not one Rangers supporter out of over 100,000 in Seville got arrested.
    Ranger are living rent free in your head.
    You are a sad individual!
    GIRUY, ya rancid wee soap dodger😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    GIRUY, ya rancid wee soap dodger😂
    Hmm…lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedyexplorer View Post
    Just back from Seville. That stadium is crumbling and I don’t know how it was awarded a euro final.
    40 degrees in Seville before the game and police were taking water off everybody that was entering the stadium. Police were also taking inhalers, ear pods, power banks and sun cream off folk, all things that are not on UEFA’s banned list.
    Kiosks ran out of water half hour before the game started and by time they had restocked the game was in extra time, and the price had went up from €3 to €5. I seen folk passed out on the concourse. The police were telling folk to drink from the toilet taps, they were eventually turned off as well..
    UEFA really are a shambles but most folk that follow football know that already!
    Let's get this straight though Speedy and I won't keep you as I know you have a cup final to attend
    We now have UEFA and the Spanish Police conspiring against "the famous" on top of the SNP government,Glasgow city council and Nicola's stormtroopers Police Scotland all plotting against the Rangers.
    Seems reasonable.
    Have a beer and chill mate.

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