Premier League 2021-22

**TaketheCannoli** · 21st October 2021, 12:30

I guess we'll have to see.

Originally Posted by jwg663

...but you can't change the players who've woefully underperformed so far this season & most of whom will still be in the first-team squad beyond the January transfer window.

It's not all Bruce's fault, however much you want him to be culpable. There's no doubt that Mike Ashley should have canned Bruce earlier, IMO. NUFC has lost at least another week by not having a replacement manager ready to parachute in. That delays your improvements in 'organisation, tactics & confidence' & will likely cost the club points going forward.

**enndriz** · 21st October 2021, 13:10

Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli

Spot on Tony. It's definitely a process over five to ten years of which this is stage one.

I think January is likely to see a couple of marquee signings and maybe a few cheaper and loan signings. The only objective the club has right now is to stay in the EPL.

LTF sums it up perfectly. Our first aim is to get up the table asap and survive, next target has to be mixing with teams like West Ham and Leicester. Once we are there can move to next stage, and think about trying to attract some of the genuine big names.

No player that Man City/Chelsea are interested in signing would even consider us regardless of the £££s involved. And they probably still wouldn’t until we can offer champions league, so still long, long way off

**seabiscuit** · 21st October 2021, 13:26

Wasn’t that long ago that Newcastle jettisoned Ivan Toney and Alan Armstrong. Toney in particular could have been a standout in the current team. The starting point is to recognise the talent you may already have amidst all the horse trading that will start in January.

**Raffe** · 21st October 2021, 13:36

Originally Posted by ellsy_79

my opinion is newcastle won’t manage to stay up this year and this will add 2 years to the project.

50 quid charity bet that they will?

**sickie** · 21st October 2021, 17:38

Originally Posted by seabiscuit

Wasn’t that long ago that Newcastle jettisoned Ivan Toney and Alan Armstrong. Toney in particular could have been a standout in the current team. The starting point is to recognise the talent you may already have amidst all the horse trading that will start in January.

They we're both Benitez cast off's lol.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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**TaketheCannoli** · 21st October 2021, 19:43

Not sure why we let Toney go but Armstrong is trouble. He's a pisshead and all-round PITA which is why every club lets him go.

Originally Posted by seabiscuit

Wasn’t that long ago that Newcastle jettisoned Ivan Toney and Alan Armstrong. Toney in particular could have been a standout in the current team. The starting point is to recognise the talent you may already have amidst all the horse trading that will start in January.

**Raffe** · 22nd October 2021, 08:23

How about Mourinho?

**sickie** · 22nd October 2021, 08:31

Originally Posted by Raffe

How about Mourinho?

I think he's happy at Roma and I wouldn't want him. I don't know any fan's that have even mentioned him let alone want him.

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**magirus** · 22nd October 2021, 08:36

Originally Posted by sickie

I think he's happy at Roma and I wouldn't want him. I don't know any fan's that have even mentioned him let alone want him.

Hear hear.

**Raffe** · 22nd October 2021, 08:43

Originally Posted by sickie

I think he's happy at Roma and I wouldn't want him. I don't know any fan's that have even mentioned him let alone want him.

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Just thought he might be available with short notice?

**BSB** · 22nd October 2021, 09:55

Originally Posted by Raffe

How about Mourinho?

As a Chelsea fan, having seen two tenures under him, I now get the feeling he's a busted flush.

**TaketheCannoli** · 22nd October 2021, 10:08

I agree he's a busted flush now. I doubt he'll work in the EPL again. We've had enough toxicity in our club without adding Jose to the mix.

Originally Posted by BSB

As a Chelsea fan, having seen two tenures under him, I now get the feeling he's a busted flush.

**reggie747** · 22nd October 2021, 10:19

Originally Posted by BSB

As a Chelsea fan, having seen two tenures under him, I now get the feeling he's a busted flush.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59003971

**sickie** · 22nd October 2021, 12:14

Originally Posted by reggie747

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59003971

See, I told you he was happy at Roma.

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**BSB** · 22nd October 2021, 14:49

Originally Posted by reggie747

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59003971

Indeed - as if to fully underline the point LOL.

**TaketheCannoli** · 22nd October 2021, 16:16

And so it begins....

"I never disguised the fact we were a squad with real limitations. We have 13 players who represent one team, the others are on a different level"

Originally Posted by reggie747

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59003971

**thegoat** · 22nd October 2021, 16:28

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-America.html

Apologies for the DM link but Martin Samuel nails the hypocrisy of the PL here.

**chrisparker** · 22nd October 2021, 16:31

Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli

And so it begins....

"I never disguised the fact we were a squad with real limitations. We have 13 players who represent one team, the others are on a different level"

Jose is a tactical genius. He engineered that result so he can get a multimillion pound pay-off, join Newcastle for six months and win another multi-million pound pay-off. The bloke has earned £93.5m in sacking fees since 2007, he's laughing at salary boys like Klopp and Pep whist going from club-to-club emptying bank accounts. Smartest man in football is Jose.

**LRB255** · 22nd October 2021, 16:42

Originally Posted by chrisparker

Jose is a tactical genius. He engineered that result so he can get a multimillion pound pay-off, join Newcastle for six months and win another multi-million pound pay-off. The bloke has earned £93.5m in sacking fees since 2007, he's laughing at salary boys like Klopp and Pep whist going from club-to-club emptying bank accounts. Smartest man in football is Jose.

That is a spot on summary, the special one is indeed a smart and shrewd character :)

**enndriz** · 22nd October 2021, 20:40

Originally Posted by chrisparker

Jose is a tactical genius. He engineered that result so he can get a multimillion pound pay-off, join Newcastle for six months and win another multi-million pound pay-off. The bloke has earned £93.5m in sacking fees since 2007, he's laughing at salary boys like Klopp and Pep whist going from club-to-club emptying bank accounts. Smartest man in football is Jose.

Jose is not daft, always thinking ahead. Even made sure he dropped in the old ‘’special connection with Newcastle because of sir Bobby’’, when asked about it last week.
AKA just keep me in mind for when it all goes to sh*t in Roma (purely cos of the players/owners/failed project. obviously)…

**mart broad** · 23rd October 2021, 16:24

Firstly an apology to “ Pitch” re the CFC - Norwich result sorry mate but wow just wow what a result just what was needed

now we need the Seagulls to win this evening and a nice high scoring draw tomorrow.
Oh and come on Palace

**thegoat** · 23rd October 2021, 19:40

Not bad .
Looking forward to watching two of our top 4 rivals tomorrow . Should be a great game .

And after that , the Scandi/Dublin derby . Great .

**mart broad** · 23rd October 2021, 19:48

Banner at Selhurst Park today

**TaketheCannoli** · 23rd October 2021, 22:19

If the new owners of Newcastle want to see how not to spend money, take a look at Everton. The owner came in promising the world yet having spent circa £500m (let that sink in, half a billion), they fielded that team today and got the result they deserved.

So take heed PIF.

**jon8oy** · 24th October 2021, 08:20

Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli

If the new owners of Newcastle want to see how not to spend money, take a look at Everton. The owner came in promising the world yet having spent circa £500m (let that sink in, half a billion), they fielded that team today and got the result they deserved.

So take heed PIF.

In fairness the injuries they've had are pretty severe. DCL, Richarlison, Delph, Mina, Andre Gomes and lately Doucouré are all probably in the first XI in a fully fit squad. Take 6 players out of most PL teams and they would struggle.

That said, I tend to agree that the general quality of their signings hasn't exactly been stellar! But goes to show how difficult it is now to compete. If you want proven PL quality, it's very difficult to buy. The alternative is smart scouting à la Leicester - but that also has it's challenges and limitations, primarily time and competition. If Rafa is given the time he will undoubtedly improve the squad and make them more competitive.

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**ryanb741** · 24th October 2021, 13:56

**Kirk280** · 24th October 2021, 15:06

I’m looking forward to Ronaldo’s hat-trick against the scousers later!

**Tenko** · 24th October 2021, 16:04

Nice win for the Hammers today. Looking forward to the Utd, Liverpool game too.

**BillyCasper** · 24th October 2021, 16:37

Originally Posted by Kirk280

I’m looking forward to Ronaldo’s hat-trick against the scousers later!

Another great comeback?

**Kirk280** · 24th October 2021, 16:51

Originally Posted by BillyCasper

Another great comeback?

Erm….

**Middo** · 24th October 2021, 16:58

That will do, Ole needs to stay at the wheel!

**TaketheCannoli** · 24th October 2021, 17:05

Klopp, Pep and Tuchel would win trophies with this Man Utd squad.

**TaketheCannoli** · 24th October 2021, 17:06

West Ham look excellent.

Originally Posted by Tenko

Nice win for the Hammers today. Looking forward to the Utd, Liverpool game too.

**Raffe** · 24th October 2021, 17:14

Originally Posted by Kirk280

Erm….

C'mon, only needs to score four goals in 45 minutes. Surely that's what Manchester got him back for?

**Middo** · 24th October 2021, 17:17

Steve Bruce at the wheel? Well y’know stranger things have happened

**ryanb741** · 24th October 2021, 17:23

Originally Posted by Raffe

C'mon, only needs to score four goals in 45 minutes. Surely that's what Manchester got him back for?

5 goals now......

Paging Sam Allardyce

**thegoat** · 24th October 2021, 17:25

This is hilarious .

**sickie** · 24th October 2021, 17:29

I think he meant Ronaldo to watch Salah score a hat-trick.

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**mart broad** · 24th October 2021, 17:31

Predicting a 6-6 draw

**Kirk280** · 24th October 2021, 17:36

Originally Posted by mart broad

Predicting a 6-6 draw

Might be 0-12 at this rate!

**ryanb741** · 24th October 2021, 17:40

'You'll never walk alone'. Unless you are a Liverpool forward in which case you will have no Man Utd defender anywhere near you

**sickie** · 24th October 2021, 17:44

I predicted it first. Ronaldo to watch Salah score a hat-trick. Do I win anything? Or is that just Liverpool who win easilyyyyyy.

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**BillyCasper** · 24th October 2021, 17:50

Originally Posted by Kirk280

Erm….

It's not our best month for results.

Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City, Oct. 23 2011
Chelsea 5-0 Manchester Utd, Oct. 3, 1999
Newcastle United 5-0 Manchester United, Oct. 20, 1996
Southampton 6-3 Manchester United, Oct. 26, 1996

Arrival of November - we'll turn it around

Oh good Cavani's coming on.

ps. Compare Ronaldo and Cavani. Ronaldo standing still hands on hips. Cavani, one second he's defending in United's penalty area, the next he's up the other end of the field trying to rescue some pride.

**ryanb741** · 24th October 2021, 17:53

Scumbag filth tackling from some of the Utd team. Pogba's tackle was atrocious

**sickie** · 24th October 2021, 17:54

oops. Goal disallowed then Pogba sent off. Surely it can't get any worse?

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**mart broad** · 24th October 2021, 17:54

Just got a lot worse for MU and unfortunately Keita

**Tenko** · 24th October 2021, 17:55

It could be more than the 7-0 that Chelsea dished out yesterday, especially with Utd down to 10 men

Love it!

**ryanb741** · 24th October 2021, 17:57

Originally Posted by Tenko

It could be more than the 7-0 that Chelsea dished out yesterday, especially with Utd down to 10 men

Love it!

To be fair you'd expect Liverpool to put away these mid-table teams

**hhhh** · 24th October 2021, 17:59

Watford’s performance last Saturday suddenly doesn’t seem so terrible 😀

**PhilT** · 24th October 2021, 18:01

Disgusted by that Pogba tackle. Hope Keita doesn’t have a serious injury but it doesn’t look good.

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