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    Moths and buttteflies

    I'm generally a fan of Lepidoptera (apart from when I had a brown-tail moth infestation). The other day I had a very pretty moth fly into my office, that I'd never seen before. It looked like this:




    I helped it fly back out of the window, and then looked it up. Turns out it was a box-tree moth, the same bastard that destroyed my ornamental box tree last year. It seems that good looks aren't a guarantee of good character. You think I'd have learned that at my age.

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    Moths and buttteflies

    I saw the picture before I read the rest of the text. I recognised it as a box moth, as last week my wife found one in our garden and immediately killed it. We have several box plants and had assumed the box moth had not made it up to Derbyshire so far.

    It seems not, so we now have invested in box moth traps, which seem good at trapping carpet moths but no further box moths.

    You can pluck out the caterpillars if you really want to be diligent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    It seems that good looks aren't a guarantee of good character. You think I'd have learned that at my age.
    Have you seen the size of mothballs? Incredible.

    I should get out more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Have you seen the size of mothballs? Incredible.

    I should get out more.

    LOL - that made me smile.

    My wife is terrified of moths and butterflies - so they all end up within our Dyson. I am sure it is used for this task more than it is for hoovering.

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    Old lady moths.
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Just had a Purple Emperor visit, never seen one before and apparently not that common.

    Untitled by Alex L, on Flickr

    Untitled by Alex L, on Flickr

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    That is quite special..
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    For the last 2 summers we have had a number of Jersey Tiger Moths in our garden.
    They are very striking, large with brown and yellow striped wings and bright red bodies.
    Apparently they are quite rare this far north but they are becoming more common in and around London.
    When I first saw one I had to google it as we only ever get the Cabbage whites normally.

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    That blue emperor is stunning.


    I saw this puss moth caterpillar in Epping Forest a few weeks ago




    And my daughter had a visitor while she was at grandad's yesterday


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    That blue emperor is stunning.


    I saw this puss moth caterpillar in Epping Forest a few weeks ago



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    That's very cool, never seen one of them. I've left a huge patch of nettles in one corner of the garden, hoping to encourage some more caterpillars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex L View Post
    That's very cool, never seen one of them. I've left a huge patch of nettles in one corner of the garden, hoping to encourage some more caterpillars.
    Tortoiseshells, peacocks, commas, red admirals and painted ladies all lay eggs in nettles. Good luck.

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    It's reassuring that many of us and our kid's are interested enough to want to encourage more butterflies and moths,
    "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0hnbarker View Post
    I saw the picture before I read the rest of the text. I recognised it as a box moth, as last week my wife found one in our garden and immediately killed it. We have several box plants and had assumed the box moth had not made it up to Derbyshire so far.

    It seems not, so we now have invested in box moth traps, which seem good at trapping carpet moths but no further box moths.

    You can pluck out the caterpillars if you really want to be diligent...
    Ah, I saw one on a window of my gym yesterday and thought how pretty it was with its near transparent wings, I will now persecute any I see at we suffered losing a number of box bushes over the past few years. Fortunately an effective remedy is available which tops the caterpillars and they haven't been back, yet...

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    Plant yew instead of box then you solve the problem of box moth caterpillars and blight. It's more attractive and better for wildlife than box anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Tortoiseshells, peacocks, commas, red admirals and painted ladies all lay eggs in nettles. Good luck.
    Indeed, there's a few red admiral wings which have clearly made a tasty meal for the bats in one of our barns. One bat got a bit lost last week, flew in through our bedroom balcony doors and I found it on the carpet.

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    Encountered a few of these a couple of weeks ago, Scarlet Tiger Moths

    Untitled by Alex L, on Flickr

    Untitled by Alex L, on Flickr


    and loads of these, which I think will turn into peacocks

    Untitled by Alex L, on Flickr

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    Are there less around this year? Normally get several fly in my window at night in summer months. I think Ive had one this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markw View Post
    Are there less around this year? Normally get several fly in my window at night in summer months. I think Ive had one this year.
    Seems that way round here. My buddleia is in full bloom, and scarcely a butterfly to be seen. Maybe the cold spring was bad for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    Seems that way round here. My buddleia is in full bloom, and scarcely a butterfly to be seen. Maybe the cold spring was bad for them.
    ... and then just an hour or so later, I went to the garden and there were four Peacocks, three Red Admirals and a Large White on the buddleia ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    ... and then just an hour or so later, I went to the garden and there were four Peacocks, three Red Admirals and a Large White on the buddleia ...
    Weird, I was thinking the same. We have two big, blooming buddleia, and barely a sniff of butterflies so far. Maybe there's hope yet but the monsoon rain we had last week must have been hard on them.

    Loads of bees and hoverflies on the jasmine and honeysuckle though.

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    Saw a few of these a while back:


    I think it's known as a Cinnabar Moth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandiloquence View Post
    Saw a few of these a while back:


    I think it's known as a Cinnabar Moth.
    I believe that's a Burnet.

    https://butterflyconservation.ie/wp/...-and-cinnabar/

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    I think you will both find its 2 pieces of metal bar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha4 View Post
    Quite correct, sir. Go right to the top of the class!

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