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    Friday Watches - June 2021 Plus Half Time Analysis

    Well wasn't June full of surprises? Not only did England beat Germany in the knock out stages of a football tournament (without resorting to penalties either) but Carlton-Brown was seen sporting a Citizen. Both surprising and disturbing in equal measure, our resident Earl was seen parading around in fishnets. Moving swiftly on.....

    Numbers continued to decrease as the membership found other things to keep them busy on a Friday. Some 583 watches were posted in June which was one less than even last year's record low. The decline was echoed in the number of different brands shown, down to 121 which is the lowest this year. Despite that eighteen new brands were posted, seven of which were new to the year and a further eleven were new to the Friday Thread.

    Having said all of that Rolex did try to buck the trend. They started strongly, winning the first three weeks of the month and even threatening to wrestle the weekly high from Seiko on the 18th, eventually falling one short with thirty watches. However this was still a new weekly high for Rolex this year. Seiko started well, only just behind Rolex until the 18th when they plummeted to twelve in a week (a record low for them) however they came back strongly on the 25th and beat Rolex by three. Omega, on the other hand, had a sordid month. Failing to break into double figures on the 4th (beaten into fourth place by Timefactors) and never scoring more than fifteen. Omega's struggles in June led to a new all time low of forty four.

    Elsewhere there were brands that did well and there are those that did not so well. CWC are still going strong and hit a new weekly high for the year. Ming are also seeing weekly highs, hitting a new all time weekly high of four but not managing to top their current monthly high of seven. Even Patek have hit a new weekly high of three this year. On the other side of the coin Damasko, Hamilton and JLC have had their worst month this year (six, four and three respectively). For Hamilton this translated to their lowest monthly score since I started counting.

    Brands making their first appearances this year include Geckota and Nixon and Gav's lovely Olma was their first example this year. New additions to the ever lengthening list of brands to appear on the Friday thread include Saga, Quinting, Benzinger and one that was well Out of Order.

    As ever there were some fine examples of wrist bourne timepieces. Yokel's fine Benzinger Subskription, Verv's Avia Marino and Itsguy's beautiful vintage Seiko Skyliner all caught my eye.

    In general exceptions to rules tend to make life interesting. In terms of watches, as a rule, I generally don't like either Panerai (large and often too similar) and fliegers (perhaps too stark and again too similar) however this month has seen the appearance of two exceptions. ASW1's Equation of Time (PAM00670?) is unusual and has a lovely blue sunburst dial. Zelig's LE pvd Fortis B-42 is a very elegant iteration of the traditional flieger. They are regulars on the Friday Thread and they never fail to make me smile when they appear.

    And now for the results for June:

    1 Rolex 92
    2 Seiko 71
    3 Omega 44
    4 Timefactors 33
    5 Tudor 25
    6 Panerai 17
    7 G Shock 16
    8 Sinn 15
    9 Grand Seiko 14
    10 Breitling 13
    11 Citizen 12
    12 CWC 12
    13 IWC 9
    14 Zenith 8
    15 Heuer 7
    16 Ming 7
    17 Damasko 6
    18 Fortis 6
    19 Oris 6
    20 Vostok 5
    21 Nomos 4
    22 Hamilton 4
    23 Ebel 4
    24 KMK 4
    25 Garmin 4
    26 Longines 4
    27 Eterna 4
    28 Blancpain 4
    29 Patek Philippe 4
    30 Christopher Ward 3
    31 Steinhart 3
    32 Doxa (modern) 3
    33 Jaeger-LeCoultre 3
    34 Linde Werdelin 3
    35 Bell & Ross 3
    36 Ollech & Wajs 3
    37 Tag Heuer 3
    38 Dan Henry 2
    39 Moser 2
    40 Offshore Professional 2
    41 Artya 2
    42 Helvetia 2
    43 Poljot 2
    44 Tissot 2
    45 Bremont 2
    46 Chronos 2
    47 Corum 2
    48 Geckota 2
    49 Helson 2
    50 Synchron 2
    51 Timex 2
    52 Cartier 2
    53 Ulysse Nardin 2
    54 Bulova 2
    55 Audemars Piguet 2
    56 Glaschutte Original 2
    57 Suunto 2
    58 Scurfa 2
    59 Alpina 1
    60 Animal 1
    61 Anonimo 1
    62 Apple 1
    63 Columbia 1
    64 Dailos 1
    65 Dornbluth & Sohn 1
    66 Jean Richard 1
    67 Lorier 1
    68 NTH 1
    69 Olma 1
    70 Panzera 1
    71 Safari 1
    72 6B 1
    73 Aerowatch 1
    74 Archimede 1
    75 Avia 1
    76 Benzinger 1
    77 Hemel 1
    78 Ingersoll 1
    79 Jean Marcel 1
    80 Marathon 1
    81 Meister Singer 1
    82 Minase 1
    83 MkII 1
    84 MWC 1
    85 Nixon 1
    86 Q & Q 1
    87 Quinting 1
    88 Saga 1
    89 Sterile 1
    90 Stowa 1
    91 Vacheron Constantin 1
    92 Zodiac 1
    93 A. Lange & Sohne 1
    94 Carvel 1
    95 Casio 1
    96 Dekla 1
    97 Enicar 1
    98 Girard Perigeaux 1
    99 Junghans 1
    100 Lemania 1
    101 Marvin 1
    102 Monta 1
    103 Muhle 1
    104 Oceanx 1
    105 Out of Order 1
    106 San Martin 1
    107 Stanley 1
    108 Swiss Military Hanowa 1
    109 Technos 1
    110 Zelos 1
    111 Anicorn 1
    112 Certina 1
    113 Franck Muller 1
    114 Hanhart 1
    115 Helm 1
    116 Mido 1
    117 Newmark (Modern) 1
    118 Swatch 1
    119 Universal Geneve 1
    120 Victorinox 1
    121 Zeno 1

    At some point over the weekend I will post the half time analysis but for now I will leave you with June's stats.

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    Thanks for taking the time to produce this.
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    Fantastic work, as always.
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    Thanks Will, as always.

    Interesting insights, I'm often surprised how low the Holy Trinity are given there are a relatively large number around these parts. I guess their owners are shy, or just too busy, or wearing something else most of the time, or just don't want to show off... All possible reasons.

    Thanks for the shout out for the Equation of Time. I do think of myself as an informal brand ambassador (due to my Panovirus infection/affliction/affection) and the 670 is the star of the armoury IMO.

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    I'm always interested in stats and trends, so many thanks again. I've not participated in the Friday thread much lately - it used to be a 'dress down' day which most in my workplace interpreted more as an 'express your personality' day, so I'd usually grab something that I considered particularly interesting to me. Since COVID it has become my 'work from home' day, which generally means a G-Shock or nothing.
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    Keep up the good work. I do occasionally wear a watch specifically to skew your stats!

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    I struggle sometimes to rationalise why I like the Friday threads, aside I suppose from the delightful horological pornography therein.
    Perhaps it's Eddie's very smart 'containment policy' of limiting WRUW threads to just one weekly on the day that signals the close of the working week. I do know I have to stop myself from posting a dozen or so gushing "Wow, gorgeous watch!" comments each and every week - the sheer diversity of extremely attractive watches at every price-tier is amazing and heartening in a World where the signal of sincere enthusiasm for horology often gets drowned-out by the noise of the "GR8 rollie m8 - wots UR investmint wurf this weak£££?!?" brigade...

    However you slice'n'dice it, these monthly analyses cheer me greatly - gives full vent to the inner nerd, so thanks once again, Sir, for this.

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    Thanks for taking the time to compile and to analyse, it always makes for an interesting read. Maybe I should wear my Seiko more often, to help give Rolex a run for its money in July. Though holidays are beckoning and that means G-Shock in my case.


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    ''..…..include Saga, Quinting, Benzinger, and one that was well Out of Order.''
    What was that then?
    Confused.


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    Nice one Wimm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nealywheelie View Post
    ''..…..include Saga, Quinting, Benzinger, and one that was well Out of Order.''
    What was that then?
    Confused.


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    Ahhh, thanks.


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    never realized there were so many brands around till reading your work and I can hardly know more than half of them...

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    Always enjoy this - thanks for taking the time to produce it. I’m in at 1 & 13 (Rolex and IWC).

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    Yes, enjoyable and painstakingly careful.
    But what’s being analysed here? The watches or the social composition of TZ members? Is it the people, or the watches?

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    Half Time Analysis

    Here, a little bit later than promised, is the half time analysis. Yes, I am struggling to believe it but we are over half way through the year. So far, on the Friday Posts we have posted a grand total of 4240 watches (up from last year's 4095) from a total of 298 different brands (again up from last year's 283). Surprisingly almost a quarter of these brands (69 in total) did not appear at all last year. Here are the stats in all their glory:

    1 Rolex 577
    2 Seiko 511
    3 Omega 427
    4 Timefactors 213
    5 Tudor 182
    6 Panerai 149
    7 Grand Seiko 106
    8 Sinn 105
    9 Breitling 96
    10 G Shock 85
    11 Damasko 72
    12 IWC 68
    13 Zenith 63
    14 CWC 59
    15 Citizen 46
    16 Hamilton 41
    17 Oris 40
    18 Heuer 37
    19 Ming 36
    20 Jaeger-LeCoultre 32
    21 Steinhart 29
    22 Bell & Ross 28
    23 Blancpain 28
    24 Garmin 28
    25 Christopher Ward 25
    26 Sterile 25
    27 Fortis 24
    28 Patek Philippe 24
    29 Tag Heuer 24
    30 Tissot 23
    31 Vacheron Constantin 23
    32 Oceanx 22
    33 Newmark (Modern) 21
    34 Audemars Piguet 20
    35 Bulova 20
    36 Longines 20
    37 Vostok 19
    38 Linde Werdelin 18
    39 Apple 17
    40 Bremont 17
    41 Moser 17
    42 Steeldive 16
    43 Universal Geneve 16
    44 Glycine 14
    45 KMK 14
    46 Certina 13
    47 Doxa (modern) 13
    48 Orient 13
    49 Yema 13
    50 Cartier 12
    51 Eterna 12
    52 Glaschutte Original 12
    53 Helson 12
    54 Muhle 12
    55 Wolbrook 12
    56 Dekla 11
    57 Lemania 10
    58 Lorier 10
    59 Timex 10
    60 Ulysse Nardin 10
    61 Casio 9
    62 Hanhart 9
    63 Nomos 9
    64 Scurfa 9
    65 Synchron 9
    66 Anonimo 8
    67 Anordain 8
    68 Ebel 8
    69 Habring 8
    70 Helm 8
    71 Helvetia 8
    72 Ollech & Wajs 8
    73 A. Lange & Sohne 7
    74 Girard Perigeaux 7
    75 Poljot 7
    76 Squale 7
    77 Suunto 7
    78 Zeno 7
    79 Alexander Shorokhoff 6
    80 Corum 6
    81 Mappin and Webb 6
    82 Mondaine 6
    83 Pulsar 6
    84 Stowa 6
    85 Undone 6
    86 WMT 6
    87 Zodiac 6
    88 Aevig 5
    89 Archimede 5
    90 Boldr 5
    91 Borealis 5
    92 Dornbluth & Sohn 5
    93 Halios 5
    94 Junghans 5
    95 Luminox 5
    96 Mido 5
    97 Rado 5
    98 Schofield 5
    99 Smiths 5
    100 Zelos 5
    101 Breguet 4
    102 Dan Henry 4
    103 Favre Leuba 4
    104 Franck Muller 4
    105 Frederique Constant 4
    106 Ingersoll 4
    107 Jean Marcel 4
    108 L U Chopard 4
    109 Meister Singer 4
    110 MkII 4
    111 Revue Thommen 4
    112 Swatch 4
    113 Vertex (Modern) 4
    114 6B 3
    115 Alpina 3
    116 Anicorn 3
    117 Artya 3
    118 Ball 3
    119 De Bethune 3
    120 Fit Bit 3
    121 Hoffman 3
    122 Le Monde 3
    123 Maranez 3
    124 Maurice La Croix 3
    125 Melbourne Watch Co. 3
    126 Movado 3
    127 MWC 3
    128 Nodus 3
    129 Offshore Professional 3
    130 RLT 3
    131 Rotary 3
    132 San Martin 3
    133 Swiss Watch Co. 3
    134 Vulcain 3
    135 40Nine 2
    136 Aerowatch 2
    137 Altair 2
    138 Android 2
    139 Animal 2
    140 Aquadive 2
    141 Aquastar 2
    142 Armida 2
    143 Baume et Mercier 2
    144 Briston 2
    145 Chronos 2
    146 Chronoswiss 2
    147 Crepas 2
    148 Davosa 2
    149 Dunhill 2
    150 Eberhard 2
    151 Enicar 2
    152 Geckota 2
    153 Ginault 2
    154 Gruppo Gamma 2
    155 Heimdallr 2
    156 Helbros 2
    157 Helgray 2
    158 Iaxa 2
    159 Invicta 2
    160 Jean Richard 2
    161 Laco 2
    162 Lip 2
    163 Makara 2
    164 Marathon 2
    165 Minase 2
    166 Monta 2
    167 Montblanc 2
    168 Nivada 2
    169 NTH 2
    170 Obris Morgan 2
    171 Peerex 2
    172 Pinion 2
    173 Q & Q 2
    174 Rodania 2
    175 Sekonda 2
    176 Spinnaker 2
    177 Stanley 2
    178 Sturmanskie 2
    179 Tauchmeister 2
    180 Tokyoflash 2
    181 Victorinox 2
    182 A-13A 1
    183 Addiesdive 1
    184 Alba 1
    185 Alkin 1
    186 Alsta 1
    187 Altanus 1
    188 Apeks 1
    189 Aristo 1
    190 Armand Nicolet 1
    191 Astro 1
    192 Autodromo 1
    193 Avia 1
    194 Bailly & Banks 1
    195 Bali Ha'i 1
    196 Baltany 1
    197 Baylor 1
    198 Benrus 1
    199 Benzinger 1
    200 Boschett 1
    201 Breil 1
    202 Carvel 1
    203 ChromeFD 1
    204 Chrono 1
    205 CJR 1
    206 Columbia 1
    207 Cortebert 1
    208 Cronos 1
    209 Cyma 1
    210 Dacor 1
    211 Dailos 1
    212 Damas 1
    213 Debert 1
    214 Delvina 1
    215 Detroit Watch Co. 1
    216 Dubey and Schaldenbrand 1
    217 Echo Neutra 1
    218 Emperor 1
    219 Flotsam & Jetsam 1
    220 Fosters Ltd. 1
    221 Geralch 1
    222 Graovana 1
    223 GWS 1
    224 H2O 1
    225 Hemel 1
    226 Huami 1
    227 Hublot 1
    228 J W Benson 1
    229 Jacques Le Mans 1
    230 Kemmner 1
    231 Kingston Observatory 1
    232 L L Bean 1
    233 Lanco 1
    234 Larsson & Jennings 1
    235 Le Forban 1
    236 Le Jour 1
    237 Leandri 1
    238 Luch 1
    239 M B & F 1
    240 Majex 1
    241 Marc & Sons 1
    242 Margrette 1
    243 Marloe 1
    244 Marvin 1
    245 Memocall 1
    246 Mirexal 1
    247 Moritz Grossmann 1
    248 Moscow Time 1
    249 Mr. Jones 1
    250 Nappy 1
    251 Nautica 1
    252 Nethuns 1
    253 Neuchatel 1
    254 Nixon 1
    255 Olma 1
    256 Oscar 1
    257 Out of Order 1
    258 Panzera 1
    259 Parmigiani 1
    260 Parnis 1
    261 Paul Smith 1
    262 Pobeda 1
    263 Quinting 1
    264 Raymond Weil 1
    265 Rdunae 1
    266 Record 1
    267 Reign 1
    268 Revue 1
    269 Ricoh 1
    270 Roamer 1
    271 RXW 1
    272 Safari 1
    273 Saga 1
    274 SarpanevaUhrenFabrik 1
    275 Seahope 1
    276 Seasonal 1
    277 SevenFriday 1
    278 Shanghai 1
    279 Signum 1
    280 Skmei 1
    281 Soundbrenner 1
    282 Swiss Military Hanowa 1
    283 Szanto 1
    284 Tactico 1
    285 Talis 1
    286 Techne 1
    287 Technos 1
    288 Torgeon 1
    289 Traser 1
    290 Traska 1
    291 Trias 1
    292 Tutima 1
    293 Uno 1
    294 Valimor 1
    295 Vratislavia 1
    296 West End Watch Co 1
    297 Wm Forbes 1
    298 Xeric 1


    Interestingly this year's top five are the same as last year's and all, except for Omega, are down when compared to this point last year. Which suggests that, not only are the numbers being boosted by more brands but also, the less popular brands are becoming more so. However this is set against a backdrop of declining numbers. June's monthly total (583) is 28% from April's peak (813). It will be interesting to see what the next six month bring.

    For those of you who like a chart here are a couple. The first is the top ten monthly watches shown with the overall monthly totals. Thirteen brands have made it in to the top ten and there is how they compare with each other:



    Below is the slightly more chaotic weekly top ten for the first six months. A far broader selection of watches (24 brands) is shown here as they change with the whims of the membership.

    on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    But what’s being analysed here? The watches or the social composition of TZ members? Is it the people, or the watches?
    Very good question. The watches do shine a light on the human behaviour on show. I think it was the worms I posted in March's analysis which threw up some interesting patterns. And then the strange Seiko Peak in April threw up yet more questions.

    I am sure anthropologist will have a field day with the data.

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