Reply With QuoteThe have posted a video.... or a planned video.....looking like a stunt....or else they are gonna turn it into a stunt.
🤣 Not understanding much of what’s going on here, but this made me laughOriginally Posted by M1011
The have posted a video.... or a planned video.....looking like a stunt....or else they are gonna turn it into a stunt.
we will find out on the 6/7/21 @23.20 ?
All very strange
Does anyone believe this business can continue? Would you trust these people with your watches/ money. Thought not….
I wish they would actually vanish.
They will probably go on to bigger and greater things..this stunt has the social media/Youtube world in a frenzy every content maker is feeding off of the corpse..you have hundreds of followers waiting on the Gentlemen Timepiece channel for an announcement that is 3 days away.
Anthony is driven he is not in this to make a few hundred dollars on a watch he is always looking at the bigger picture. maybe a TV programme in the Netflix/Amazon day in the life schedule.
The constant flexing the bragging spending tens of thousands of dollars on a meal at their favourite establishments all funded for by those who fall for this BS
Anyone who is capable of convincing people to invest $2000 into a club that basically offers nothing but maybe 1 watch per month at cost is taking full advantage of the hype that currently exists fueled by Social media.
Our hobby is an extremely fickle world where most getting involved in recent years have no idea whatsoever what they are buying spending many thousands on something they know absolutely nothing about but must have a piece of the action because someone somewhere has told them there is money to be made selling watches.
Social media watch forums have become the Wildwest where everyone is a watch dealer selling pieces for what a reputable bricks and mortar established dealer would ask.
its Nuts but the modern world loves it.
Blimey, wasn't expecting that.
Just how dumb are we supposed to be? This scam is led by a convicted fraudster who already served two jail sentences. What more do you want?
If it was a scam, I'd say it was a very unusual one going to the extent of making a netflix style reality show about it before disappearing with everyones money.
Was he previously done for fraud? All I can find on google are two sentences for DUI?
Last edited by Christian; 3rd July 2021 at 14:05.
"A fool and his money" as the saying goes.
I must admit I'd never even heard of this site/channel/person until all the posts about them 'disappearing'.
It does make me wonder if it's all an attention-grabbing publicity stunt, but perhaps it has a less (or maybe more!) sinister explanation.
I guess time will tell.
M
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Looks like they’re doing a big reveal on their YouTube channel on the 6th - guessing it was a PR stunt then.
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Given their YouTube content, a falling out between the partners and need to do a full stock check to fix their accounts / discrepancies in their spreadsheet, would be a good reason alone, to put the brakes on and straighten everything out, but then there's the capital raising private member wholesale scheme that seemed to be poorly defined.
Latest vid from Archie and Lux Report, claims to have a text message from Anthony to someone who paid in $2k for membership of the scheme, being told to standby for the announcement but also that the price of membership will be more than doubled:
https://youtu.be/5bLvo48AfgE
I don't think any of this is 'genius marketing' it looks more like an amateur run and under capitalised business, trying to stay afloat, with watches on consignment and membership schemes, until the business hopefully becomes profitable as a reality TV product.
Last edited by AKM; 4th July 2021 at 13:32.
I just watched 10 minutes of one of their "shows". Enough to put me off luxury watches for good. It's clearly not about watches for what they are, just a hideous and crass display of wealth..."I just spent $500,000 at a watch show in 15 minutes", "I just wasted $17,000 at Salt Bae" etc.
I agree. Used to like the earlier ones, but felt like Anthony just became more and more crass as it became obvious they were onto a social media winner.
I far preferred the more recent segments where Marco ran them without Anthony. Seems like a nice, switched on guy and a great man manager. Anthony on the other hand was a total micro manager, I’d have hated to work for him. Spreadsheets and WhatsApp groups are no way to run a business like that. The failure to delegate is why he has such a backlog of texts and is working 24/7. Not sure about you guys but if I were in the middle of a big watch deal with someone and they were asking ‘which watch again?’, ‘have you paid?’, ‘did I pay?’ I’d be running for the hills.
If this is a stunt, it’s a poorly thought out stunt and I imagine it will backfire. Shame for Marco going along with it.
They are crass but advertising and marketing always have been. Just think of tobacco.
Just watched their explanation video - it was nauseating. They've come up with a disingenuous story about taking time out to do some charitable work that sounded like a back covering story. Don't think the whole episode will do them many favours, and will have damaged a lot of the consignment business that dealers rely on in the US.
I think it started as a PR stunt. Then they added the “charity” aspect to try and shame all the people calling them out.
The critising social media aspect is bizzare when they are total social media whores.
The end of the video with Antony and his lawyer on the phone “strategising” against Archie trying to make him post videos is embarrassing.
A total shambles.
But hey, interesting enough but reality is they are a small time dealer with a high social media reach.
Such an odd approach to PR I must say. I can’t imagine this not backfiring on them.
- purposefully go dark in an attempt to make themselves look dodgy and run a social experiment
- collate all the responses to their previous friendly social media mates saying ‘it looks dodgy’
- call their ex mates out for saying it looks dodgy
What were they expecting? I’ve bailed out of following them. Complete muppets.
Saw it was an hour long explanation video, watched a random 2 minutes of some chad in a baseball cap droning on monotonousy and closed the tab out of boredom. Am none the wiser but at least they've given all the usual watch youtubers (Archie, Paul Thorpe etc) something to bang on about for an hour each and call it 'content'. The ultimate self-licking lollipop.
Complete mess.The consigner of 3 rolexs is recorded in a conversation telling them he was not told about this "pr stunt" and was concerned...after Anthony talks to him he says he will continue doing business with them.....Something seemed quite staged about the whole thing.I must say I find it fascinating but definitely wouldn't want anything to do with them.
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Do you know a watch dealer who would give you an expensive watch and give no clear timeframe for paying the money? Nope nor do I
People giving watches on consignment must have rocks in their head.
You would think the TPG going dark would be a warning to those thinking of such a thing.
I’ve unsubscribed, and won’t watch any more of their content.
The guy has a bad prison record and seems to think playing games with other peoples money is just fine, he must be ruined after this behaviour, anyone who still trusts him…….
The behaviour of fellow dealers was a real eye-opener.
What is his prison record for? All I can find are 2 DUIs.
Two lengthy prison sentences for fraud. He freely admitted it. Hard to avoid.
Wow. Exactly the guy not to trust with selling your watch!
Anyone can be reformed.
But I wouldn't send him my watches...
Although, to be fair, this episode alone would be enough to prevent me doing that!
Seems like they went on the Gerald Ratner PR course!
M
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Fraud...? Thought he had DUI driving under influence x2
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They've taken down their latest you tube offering explaining it all as clearly its massively backfired against them and the backlash is growing. The Director that they wanted to make a film of it all has turned down the work. Their pal Roman has released a clip where he's being diplomatic but is clearly not impressed by their actions. In short, who knows whatever the real reason is that they did this, but its likely to have cost them an unbelievable amount of trust. Can't see other dealers wanting any association with them, let alone their customers trusting them with their watches or dollars.
No, he went to prison for fraud, twice, and now wants people to believe otherwise….originally, he made videos in which he openly admitted his crimes, and jail sentences, because he couldn’t duck official records. He recorded whole programmes on his colourful historyDon’t be fooled by this devious, dishonest, man. He thinks his drinking sounds harmless compared with fraud….
He seems to be busy now removing all the video records he made himself. Theres no end to his contempt for the audience. He thinks he can fool anyone, endlessly if he keeps lying, and lying. It’s blatent contempt for other people, who he thinks can be made to believe whatever he wants. Just lie and lie.
Quite rare to get the chance to watch someone like this….. What are the chances he ends up back in jail? There’s a lot of money floating about…..place your bets.
Btw: his crimes, and jail convictions, are a matter of public record.
Last edited by paskinner; 8th July 2021 at 11:39.
And subscribers. Noted they have dropped from 112k to 108k overnight and suspect the exodus will gather traction.
Third strike 's a charm?
Do you have any links to where he admits to fraud, as I've only seen the ones for DUI. If he has been away twice for fraud, and openly admitted it, it begs the question as to why anyone would a. want to do business with him and b. want to be in partnership with him!
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That doesn’t sound like a massive amount of subscriber loss - certainly nowhere near as much as expected. Then again I’m constantly surprised by the amount of crap the general public take before they see the wood for the trees.
you think people jailed several times, for long sentences, are trustworthy? There are numerous references to farrer , who openly admits serving long jail sentences., some best part of
a year each.He is a convicted fellon telling garbled tales to try to hide his prison record….which is a matter of public record. You are free to do the work if so inclined. Incidentally, it’s not just ‘drunk’…there are detailed references to evading laws and probation.not just ‘only’ drunk driving, as he’d like you to believe.
No one gets a long session in jail for having a few drinks… And Have you read any of the allegations about his treatment of women? Unreportable in normal language. Vile stuff . This is a psychotic and dangerous man from all evidence. Frightening.
Who is supposed to ‘trust’ such a man? Not me!
Finally, who would now handover valuable goods to this convicted fellon? Your guess.
Last edited by paskinner; 8th July 2021 at 15:43.
I can't find any reference to fraud, or any reports of his treatment of woman.
What Internet are you using?
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If the watch thing doesn't work out, he should consider a career in politics.
It, being America, ‘Anthony’ has put his err, colourful, past to get use for him. . He’s published stuff promoting himself as a sinner reformed. Old traditional approach with an almost religious theme.
Can’t get over how he looks like a mouse on steroids. Must be the ears.
But come on, put yourself to the test: would you ‘consign’ your watch to the care of this man?
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But come on, put yourself to the test: would you ‘consign’ your watch to the care of this man?[/QUOTE]
No.
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Do you have a link/source for the fraud convictions?
If you have doubts, Why not do some of your own research . Are you trying to claim this man has not served a lengthy jail sentence? Well, two sentences actually. Or that the only self-serving accounts about drunken incidents have been given by the same, convicted, felon? You could also deal with the vehicle offences and probation. Why admit anything? Because it’s a matter of public record . Anyone reading this can freely look it up. As you could, if bothered. Can you be bothered?
Last edited by paskinner; 10th July 2021 at 14:01.
They’ve clearly messed up in the last week or two, no one is denying that, myself included.
You do seem obsessed though with repeatedly reminding us of his criminal conviction in almost every post you make, yet when you’ve been asked for a link or source you just keep telling people to look it up if they can be bothered. His jail sentences are common knowledge and admitted by him. As to his treatment of women, the vile stuff you claim and about him being psychotic, I can’t see any evidence of that anywhere. There’s nearly 2,000 posts on the TPG on Rolex forums and none of them are about that. So I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask you to provide a link, do you?
There's no justification for getting so defensive... where did I make any such claim? You're stating he went to jail for X and did Y, I've simply asked for your source/evidence that's leading you to this conclusion
Last edited by M1011; 10th July 2021 at 15:06.
All I know about is his DUI's...I did a Google search and no mention of any other offences.With the amount of talk about TPG on youtube and watching most of it I thought it would have come up.Legally if you have previous for fraud are you allowed to operate as a business owner?
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It's their Shopify website that gets me, there's no address even of the physical store, no phone number, no details of the company or its proprietors, no email address. There's just a contact form and a link to YouTube. Here's a link to the site from their YouTube profile (as it occurred to me maybe it wasn't the real site):
https://thetimepiecegentleman.com/
Earlier today, all stock was listed as 'sold out' then most of the same items reappeared. The majority of the photos are manufacturers' ones taken from the Internet.
Even if they operate mainly face-to-face in store and the website was just for show and didn't reflect their actual stock, surely as a minimum they'd publish their address so as you could find the store along with opening hours, or give some means to phone them.
Perhaps you have fill in a contact form and then they contact you when the lights are on and ideally the camera's rolling and, any 'walk ins' are prearranged. If you operated by appointment only surely you'd put that on the website.
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Last edited by AKM; 10th July 2021 at 18:19.
I guess we’re chalking this up as PR stunt gone bad?
I still think there’s life left in the company though. There’s a Netflix doc in this with the PR gone wrong just making for more content. Next year’s Tiger King. Just needs to kill his husband and all that.
There’s an apology video now.
I watched about 30 seconds…reminds me why I hate social media…utter self-centred rubbish.
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