If you think like this then buy a Grand Seiko - my guess is that you won't because your friends will say " oh - a seiko "Originally Posted by omegamotorcyclist
Please come back when you have acquired a bit more watch knowledge.
I think the best part of life is choice, I own several brands of watches and l purchased them because I liked them. Some are quirky and colourful but most important they struck a cord with me. That includes several Tudor’s and to be honest I am quite excited about the new bronze 58.
Buy what you like and try not to read into the myths or cool aid.
Near the A13 in luxury flats. All I do is hear AMGs all day and all night, bought on PCP. haha
Honestly all the support here makes me think I should give Tudor a chance and not worry. Its great that they are respected by watch lovers.
As I said in another thread, I feel like there are some amazing brands like Zenith go under the radar
What stinks more, A13 Beckton exit or your attitude? Lolz
Big issue with private people buying cars like that and renting them to local drug dealers for cash with no record of who took them etc.
Also a load of people round there who live with their parents until they're married (and after sometimes) so they spunk their money on cars. RS3, C43 AMG, M2 etc
This is thread is fantastic. So you don’t like the people that wear Rolex’s just so show off but you don’t like tudors because estate agents can afford them?
I’ll give a genuine answer to your question, when I was waiting to buy me first Rolex I got tempted by a Pelagos in blue. When I actually tried one on I was quite disappointed as it did feel a bit ‘cheap’ compared to a sub (which makes sense as it’s half the price!)
I have since seen a Tudor GMT Pepsi on someone’s wrist and thought that looked much better and would consider one if I didn’t have a Rolex Pepsi.
I bought this precisely because it was a poor man's Rolex.
I love the Rolex Submariner case design, but didn't want to afford a Rolex. This was my solution, exactly the same case, with Tudor's own design twist, but substantially less money.
People can think what they like about the "poor man's Rolex", but I am bery happy with mine.
I have a Pelagos too. Pretty happy with that as well.
I have had a few other Subs (76100 blue and black), a BB GMT, and a few vintage Jumbos as well.
Nothing wrong with a PMR
I very nearly bought the previous Black Bay chrono, the all black face one at a very good price from an independent a few weeks ago.
I was impressed with the watch and would have been more than happy. Unfortunately it had been snapped up when I went back a few hours later.
In the end I bought this new Speedmaster which I have always longed after so turned out well
One thing that has put me off is the supply of these now, seems they are doing the same thing as Rolex. I did put my name down for the new reverse panda as they didn’t require a deposit. I was advised it would be a long wait though!!
When the GMT came out I really lusted after it and would have been my next watch purchase. But I could not get one anywhere. By the time the supply had dies down and you could walk in and buy one I sort of lost interest.
Cheers, Shaun
Tudor was once not the poor mans rolex, but the working mans Rolex.
The Tudor sub used the same case and rolex signed crowns etc but had movements which could be easily serviced by any watchmaker. They were affordable where rolex was not, and I have to ask what's wrong with that?
Plenty were issued as military kit. Its always been a subsidiary brand owned by Rolex but what do you want if youre using a tool watch? one that has to go to Switzerland for repair or one that can be sorted by any competent watchmaker? It was a sensible move that combined quality fittings with practicality.
The brand had a period of dozing and was "rejuvenated" (by Wilsdorf, so you have to consider that they knew what they were doing) and whereas big brother has always played the evolution not revolution game, Tudor have been allowed to essentially "piss about" and experiment with different materials, technologies and so on as its considered the younger rowdier sibling. They've produced some cracking watches.
The Tudor is poor mans Rolex guff is a sign of not really knowing much about Tudor tbh.
no from me for the much better reason than any above ...
the hour hand , imho it is bloody hideous !
so from a purely aesthetic point of view its a non starter for me.
very well said - vintage tudor subs are incredible, built very well and have a huge variety of looks over the years (compared to Rolex). From the early gilt chapter ring 7928s to snowflakes, lollipops etc, each with very different characters. It's also worth mentioning that they can still be had for (comparably) reasonable prices.
Here’s my pair of 76100s
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I own Rolex (acquired before lists became a thing) and my next acquisition will be the BB reverse panda.
In common with Rolex this also requires a degree of patience to purchase and seems to also command a premium to purchase immediately.
They really are lovely watches and in my view represent value for money in a world of bloated watch prices.
I have also gone on a Rolex list for the purchase of a special watch for my wife - Oyster Perpetual.
This although supposedly at the lower end of Rolex prices seems to have such a demand that I will be lucky to see within the next 12 months and I have seen on watchfinder at a ridiculous premium of 250%.
So there is some “commonality” between the two brands after all.
Yes and have done about 5 times. Great brand that complements Rolex's model lineup perfectly.
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A point clumsily made perhaps by the OP.
The problem with the statement, "a poor man's Rolex" is that it's like the phrase "once seen cannot be unseen". 99% logic can be undermined by that niggling phrase in the background.
Take the Mk 1 Pelagos. Quite superb in all aspects. There was not a thing I didn't like. I even accepted the snowflake design. Many unique design elements, and at the time, it stood out on its own merits. In no way was it a wannabee. Although the irony is that it was sacrificed in the end towards a SD.
Tudor might live in the shadow of its bigger, shoutier sibling, but were it to step away and become an independent it would probably receive the universal praise from all quarters that it's due.
Mis-post. Sorry all!
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Must be charging one helluva fee!!
I must be a moron having yesterday sold yet another SMP and passed on buying a new PO just so I could come home with a new BB58 Black.
Sometimes I wonder what’s the definition of a poor man.
If someone is not in the position to afford a Rolex he is certainly not in a good position to afford a Tudor either.
Not impossible, but that don’t seems to be a smart move.
I love this! What model is it?I bought this precisely because it was a poor man's Rolex.
I love the Rolex Submariner case design, but didn't want to afford a Rolex. This was my solution, exactly the same case, with Tudor's own design twist, but substantially less money.
People can think what they like about the "poor man's Rolex", but I am bery happy with mine.
I have a Pelagos too. Pretty happy with that as well.
I have had a few other Subs (76100 blue and black), a BB GMT, and a few vintage Jumbos as well.
Nothing wrong with a PMR
My point was less about the company and more who wears them. I would also feel self conscious in a Rolex!
A refreshingly grounded post. (Nice watch too!)I bought this precisely because it was a poor man's Rolex.
I love the Rolex Submariner case design, but didn't want to afford a Rolex. This was my solution, exactly the same case, with Tudor's own design twist, but substantially less money.
People can think what they like about the "poor man's Rolex", but I am bery happy with mine.
I have a Pelagos too. Pretty happy with that as well.
I have had a few other Subs (76100 blue and black), a BB GMT, and a few vintage Jumbos as well.
Nothing wrong with a PMR
Didn’t you just post that you are going to buy a 16600?
You seem to have made a lot of references to ‘the type of people’ who wear different watches. Does it really matter, just buy and enjoy what you want and sod everyone else and if you are going somewhere where you would feel vulnerable in a fairly expensive watch, wear a £100 G-Shock on those occasions - simples.
Just because two people happen to wear the same watch their journeys to that watch might be completely different. One may have sold a fair chunk of their collection in order to consolidate to what they regard as a grail watch and the other person may have received it as a present. Personally I would hope the guy who has put the effort in to get theirs enjoys the ownership experience more.
Id say that sums it up to a pretty decent degree.
I remember a post on here a few years ago which humorously compared the atmosphere at the rolex and tudor clocking-in queues - with rolex employees stood in a silent orderly line - and the tudor gang doing the hokey cokey into their building! :D
One of the reasons I like the vintage ones is precisely because they are less vulgar. Slimmer lugs, taking an interest in the variations, rather than just buying it for the brand. I love subs and sea dwellers because of their simplicity!
I very much agree with the sentiment of your post though
Thats entirely your issue. Plenty of very down to earth people wear rolex. An abundance of a-holes too, but thats just going to be a thing with conspicuous wealth.
Only YOU know why you wear a thing.
I think the blinkered rolex fanboy fraternity are a total embarrassment - but they only really embarrass themselves. Its not the fault of rolex.
If (judging by your username) you own an omega then you should feel equally self conscious wearing the omega - given that, to the average watch owner, both brands are ridiculous displays of wealth.
Yes, I would buy another Tudor.
Gives me something to wear between my Rolex, Audemars Piguet and Patek Philippe amongst others.
Wonder what that makes me in the mind of the OP?
Count me in as another moron with no taste.
its interesting because I often think of the seamster as almost in the category of some horrible tag-hauer bought on the hughstreet simply because of the proliferation of the bond quartz, and even worse the horrible planet oceans.
But yes I do adore mine and I can't help it!
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Three of the most pretentious brands in watch making? Haha :)
You are so predictable
You're really starting to grow on me...
I own and wear a Tudor. I also know a fair few a**holes who wear Rolex watches who are financially worse off than me but they chose a Rolex because they look the part. I chose a watch because of what it is rather than trying to be something I am not nor do I ever want to be. A would be snob.
Oh my god! I have both a Seamaster and a Tag Heuer, if Tudor wearers are morons what does that make me! I think you are over thinking things OP, these are all but trinkets at the end of the day, buy what you like and enjoy it for what it is.
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What an unpleasant range of prejudices you display. You must be a riot at dinner parties
Simon
If you live in a flat by the a13 there’s nothing luxury about it 🤣
Do they make a different sound to those bought for cash??
100% this. Not worth the effort of a reply.
Quite right Tony, I should know better. It’s not as if it will change anything
Simon
I had a black bay and didnt think it was anything special for the money.
Loads of other watches that price or less are also nice.
Timekeeping was poor actually and i didnt like the flat no AR crystal.
+1. Martyn.
“ Ford... you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.” HHGTTG
Spoilsport
The point is that posts which ignore the trolling aspect and address the point can steer the discussion into a sensible debate.
Calling it trolling encourages the type of bitchy post that this forum can suffer from.
That is why I choose to do the former rather than the latter
I get your point, Dave, but I disagree. This is a SOCIAL media platform and acting like an anti-social tw*t shouldn't be encouraged with page after page of responses, giving credence to the original post/style of posting. That've just my opinion, though, and I can be a tad intolerant at times.
Best comment in here.
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I know from much experience there is nothing luxurious about living by the A13 - all the ‘luxury’ flats are extortionately overpriced generic cardboard shoeboxes, and there is no luxury in being surrounded by industrial estates, the pollution of endless traffic going in and out of the city and planes dropping in and out of city airport. My whole family is from that area and everyone strived to get out as far into Essex as they could as it was just post war slums. Then they tarted it up and sold it back to all the chinless Geralds. My mum and dads place is now worth 20 times what they paid for it. Wonder if that Tudor wearing ‘moron’ of an estate agent saw you coming....😂
I see Tudor as a more colourful version of Rolex, with great build quality, but more playful, more experimental and less conservative. Also without the pretension that I (potentially wrongly) associate with Rolex, that a lot of people buy it for the wrong reasons
funny thread... buy what you like... and enjoy :)
Yes, I would and I’ would take it to the market.
Probably my favourite Tudor.
( yes, I know the date is wrong).
Yes, I have had a 79260p (silver panda) for roughly 15 years and recently added a GMT. While I do intend to reduce the numbers a bit, I think these will be staying.
They certainly seem good value in today’s market with BB58’s possible to picked up for not a lot more than Tag Heuer money.
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