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    First Porsche

    Since I was in my late teens, I've wanted a Porsche. For years a 928 was my dream car, followed by a 944 or 964. The only other car I've ever really lusted after was a Magnum PI style Ferrari 308 (which isn't in any way a current option, and only mentioned for reference).

    Much as I try to tell myself otherwise, I have the lust for pretty much any car with a Porsche badge. You know the one, where you have to have a Sinn 857 or Great White or whatever. When I recently confessed this yearning to my SO, she said "well don't wait till you're 70". I took this to be closer to the "you should get one" end of the spectrum than the "do what you want" end, and took it as a green light.

    Practically speaking, I know a Macan would be the most sensible for me. Something with 4/5 seats and a decent-ish boot, that would seamlessly replace my XC40 and tick the "Porsche" box. I know that's not what I really want though, and ultimately probably wouldn't scratch the itch. I'm no amateur Stig, I have no desire to take a personal car on a track day, and I keep within 110% of the speed limit. My SO's sister's SO (concentrate at the back) has a 992 C4S which he recently took me for a ride in. I felt the ride was slightly choppy, and when he floored it I thought "this is too fast for these roads". Objectively my Volvo is a better car, not that that makes any difference.

    But I really want a Porsche "2 seater" sports car. There are other cars in my family that I can drive, but this would be my main everyday car. I've been doing a bit of research, and I'm only a bit wiser. The forums (Porscheclubgb and Pistonheads) aren't a huge help, as their members have varied requirements (e.g. lowest possible price, investment potential, second 'Sunday' car etc. etc.). There's a Porsche for most requirements, it seems, but the options that are most palateable to me are Cayman 718, or 991.

    What's my budget? I'd like to spend 30k. I'm realistically thinking it will be closer to 45K, and while I could go higher that would be getting into 'really?' territory. I will definately be buying from a dealer, and preferably from someone like RPM.

    Can anyone help me make a decision??



    Bonus question: Is high mileage a concern? I know they need consumables like brake pads and disks / tyres / brake fluid / aircon condensers at regular intervals, but is 70k+ miles a particular worry?
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    I don’t see higher mileage cars as an issue, they are best being used bs sat still on a driveway, I’ve had 2 issues on solenoids from low use over a winter period; one bank one year, the other the following. Perhaps I was just unlucky.

    We got both of ours through Ashgood near Heathrow and they are fantastic to deal with, and very fair when it came to putting a price on our trade-ins.

    Having driven my FILs Porsches over the years I know what you mean about the pace the new ones are capable of. Last year he had a new 992 GTS cab, and that seemed ridiculous vs his 991. He now has a Turbo S but yet to drive it. For me, they are also massive cars now vs what the started out as, combined with the speed isn’t a fast car for lanes and country roads anymore.

    We have a base Boxster and a Cayman GTS both of the 981 model, which for me was the last of the best sounding engines. The 718 sounds flat to me, even the 4.0 GTS doesn’t make the hairs on my neck stand up.

    Base model is great fun, can rev it out without being silly, the GTS is a different beast entirely in how it feels and the pace / way it builds it rapidly - try to drive a base and an S and see which you prefer.

    The infotainment system is a bit dated, if mine were a daily I’d get a magic box fitted that turns the screen to car play compatible if you have an iPhone. Aside from that, no issues if this were a daily, before lockdown my wife used hers on a 60 mile round trip commute and never complained about lack of comfort etc.

    So many extras were available for these cars from new, I wish we’d got my wife’s car with the switchable exhaust as we both love mine when on a spirited drive with the crackles and bangs. Switchable suspension is always on softest as our roads are awful, auto dimming lights are a bit low tech bs modern matrix lights, but well worth getting the upgraded lights from the standard halogen as makes a huge difference.

    The only thing I wish I had was the full electrically seats as I’m really fussy with my driving position and like to hone it in; hate it when a mechanic or MOT person moves my seat.

    No longer use the Porsche network for servicing as their prices and options are a joke; £600 minor service and presented with £5k of optional stuff! We now use Northway Porsche on the A4 near Theale; a full service of fluids, plugs, belts etc was £800 and you get to speak with the person who is working on your car.

    Budget wise I think north of £40k will get you a lovely example based on what I’ve looked at, and I keep looking. When I was last with Northway their view was to get the best 981 GTS model you can as they don’t make them like that anymore - and it’s interesting as aside from upgrading the wife’s to a GTS we struggle to think what the next cars will be, and that’s not something we have usually struggled with before.

    Good luck, whichever you decide on ultimately I’m sure you will be over the moon with. It just feels special in a way your current car never will.

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    Lovely budget. I scratched my Porsche itch a while back with a Boxster 3.2S. Brilliant car for a few summers. Fast enough for our roads. The best thing I did was find a local (ish) indy to maintain it. Unique Porsche. Get on the forums and find one near you. They often know who is selling too. Have fun!

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    Porsche has always been about the 911 for me. Toyed with the idea of other models (Boxster Spyder would be nice) but have always come back to the 911. Definitely not as practical as a Macan but as a combo of dream car and daily driver I think they're hard to beat.

    So of your two options, I'd go for the 991. It won't be at the £30k end of your budget though.

    911uk.com is pretty good if you're looking for model info.

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    My first was a 924 Turbo (paid £3250 for it in the late 90s!!!) followed by 2x 944. Still have a hankering after another 944.

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    I would try to find a car with a full service history. And make sure that you find an indy with a good reputation before you buy a Porsche.

    In the wider area around my hamlet are three indy Porsche workshops. And I know for a fact that two (and perhaps the third as well) will accompany the owner-to-be when it comes to inspecting and buying. There’s a price tag, but a small one compared to the troubles you can run into.

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    For me mileage is not as important as the condition and service history.... go in with open eyes and ask experts if needed

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    Personally I'd go with the best/newest 718 Cayman you can afford. They are fantastic cars and very well built. I know the Porsche anoraks moan about the 4 pot engine but whatevs. Just make sure you get the sports exhaust option. And I wouldn't go 'S' either, standard 300bhp is enough on today's roads for most people.

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    Ive recently acquired a macan performance pack - S Turbo equivalent from this parish - full PSH and a respected saeller and at a price not much more than trade were offering and so far Im really enjoying it so far - its quite understated, extremely comfortable and the kids can get in the back - put it in sports mode and it sounds amazing and has plenty of poke its a wolf in sheeps clothing

    Ive come from a M4 competition which was very unforgiving by comparison, was hard work getting in and out and wanted to kill you if you put it in sports mode and I get almost the same MPG in the Porsche and the insurance is cheaper -whats not to like

    Good luck in your search
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    OP, how tall are you? I'm 6' 2 1/2" and gave up on my 986 Boxster S, I could either have the seatback in the correct position with not enough support for my thighs or the other way round. I've not had to put the seat back as far as it can go in 911s or my old 924Ss (how I'd like another one of those again...).
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    Hi Chap, looks like you are in Essex, in the north of the county there is a Porsche indy (Paul Stevens I believe) on the road from Halstead to Sudbury and I believe another in Coggeshall. It may be worth a visit to see if they have a stock of cars or even for a chat about running costs etc.. Good Luck. Cheers, John B4

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    First Porsche

    There’s a 928 S4 on the collecting cars auction site with 4 hours to run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB4 View Post
    Hi Chap, looks like you are in Essex, in the north of the county there is a Porsche indy (Paul Stevens I believe) on the road from Halstead to Sudbury and I believe another in Coggeshall. It may be worth a visit to see if they have a stock of cars or even for a chat about running costs etc.. Good Luck. Cheers, John B4
    Yes, I'm in Colchester, and there does appear to a few good independents nearby. PIE Performance in Lavenham, Autostrasse in Coggeshall and Paul Stevens near Halstead all have positive comments on PH. Paul Stevens seems more focussed on air cooled cars though.

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    IMHO I wouldn’t touch any of the newer stuff, Porsche specialist I use has had countless 718 etc in to have bits replaced due to cheap manufacturing.

    Having had a 3.2, 986S, 2 x 996 GT3’s, ‘74 3.0RS rep and a 996 Turbo, and with your budget I would go 996 Turbo and budget for some tweaks/maintenance all day long. Failing that get a well looked after 996 C2 with no sunroof and cable throttle and chuck some money at it to make it yours. sports and classic have a great example for sale currently. ▶️ Watch this video https://www.facebook.com/share/r/CMx...ibextid=WC7FNe

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    Yes, I'm in Colchester, and there does appear to a few good independents nearby. PIE Performance in Lavenham, Autostrasse in Coggeshall and Paul Stevens near Halstead all have positive comments on PH. Paul Stevens seems more focussed on air cooled cars though.
    PIE Performance are great to deal with, Chris and his team are great, my friend takes his 968 CS there we are in Suffolk.

    I have been hankering after a 997 recently as I love this era, I am 6'3" so struggle to fit in most cars but these I can fit in nicely but test drove this era when they came out and loved them but timing wasn't right I am hoping like you it would be, but I have set a lower budget for my search, as it would hardly get used so have to weigh that up also.

    Good luck with your search

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    Having had a Cayman 981, I personally found the experience to be overrated. A 911 would likely be a different matter of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    ...with your budget I would go 996 Turbo and budget for some tweaks/maintenance...
    Completely agree, I just said 991 as it was on the shortlist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berty234 View Post
    Having had a Cayman 981, I personally found the experience to be overrated. A 911 would likely be a different matter of course.
    I am astounded to read that tbh, what engine did you have & what are you comparing it to?


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    My first Porsche is my current fun car. Cayman 981 s and I love it. Specced well they are an absolute joy. Sound epic, look superb, surprisingly practical and handle very well indeed. I don’t need back seats so for me it’s the one I chose.

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    Loved my 987 Cayman S - very quick and great handling.
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    I don't like the front fog lights on the 987 and 981 - they just don't look right to me.

    The GTS doesn't have them, but I'm assuming that's less good as an 'every day' road car?

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    A nice position to be in 🙂

    The 981s get the plaudits of the purists but only, from what I can tell, really for the soundtrack from the flat 6. I was in a similar position about a year ago and ended up with a 718S Boxster. I drove a few and found the 718S much more user friendly at licence friendly speeds. Mine has the PSE so I get the burbles and pops when I want them! The 981 was great but personally I just found the low speed punchyness of the twin turbo 718S more fun. To enjoy the sounds of the 981 (glorious btw!) it was well over 100mph! It also felt a little dated by comparison.

    I would add that whatever you choose will have something special, Porsche just do, but be mindful
    of spec - the option list was long and don’t assume anything is included as Standard without a little research!

    Finally, I’ve heard loads of great things about the Macan. Brilliant daily SUV but hugely capable sports car if/when you want it. Maybe try one before you rule it out completely?

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    Currently have a 911 991 and a Macan . I had a cayenne before and I hated it. Love the Macan, don’t get me wrong the 911 is a great car but if I could only have one - it would be the Macan for practicality . Love the Macan . Great size , handles great .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    I don't like the front fog lights on the 987 and 981 - they just don't look right to me.

    The GTS doesn't have them, but I'm assuming that's less good as an 'every day' road car?
    Can’t recall the last time I genuinely needed front fog lights to actually drive anywhere. Don’t think the new 911 has them either.

    Wife’s Boxster doesn’t and neither does the smart; none of our cars have them & didn’t even enter my mind as a consideration for a daily car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    I don't like the front fog lights on the 987 and 981 - they just don't look right to me.

    The GTS doesn't have them, but I'm assuming that's less good as an 'every day' road car?
    Yes different front bumper on the GTS. It would be fine as a road car and daily driver. Could be wrong but think it has the same suspension setup as my s that has PASM. GTS models hold value very well too.

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    Bought my first Porsche last year, after much shopping around I settled on a 981 Cayman with the 2.7.

    For the money i'd say these are the sweet spot of Porsche ownership right now, they have the NA flat 6, are modern enough to be used all the time and don't cost the earth to run.

    I went for a manual car although I tried a PDK and that was brilliant too.

    I've covered over 10,000 miles in mine over the last year including a 1600 mile road trip around Ireland and numerous track days. The car is super practical thanks to the 2 boots, I even used mine to move my Mrs out of Uni!

    Mines recently been through its 70k major service (fluids,filters,plugs,aux belts) at a local indy which came in just under £1000. Also just had some new rear tyres which came in at £600 for the pair.

    A 987.2 with the 2.9 is also another option (The gen 2 solved the engine issues the 987.1 could suffer with) but I found that being 6"4 they were much too small inside compared to the 981. I did also consider the 4 pot 718 but the engine noise just wasn't what I wanted.

    My only real criticism of the 981 are the steering lacks some feel and the gearing is far too long, but apart from that it's a corking sportscar that has all the performance you need for a UK back road.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Personally I'd go with the best/newest 718 Cayman you can afford. They are fantastic cars and very well built. I know the Porsche anoraks moan about the 4 pot engine but whatevs. Just make sure you get the sports exhaust option. And I wouldn't go 'S' either, standard 300bhp is enough on today's roads for most people.
    That’s what I did a few months back. 2 year old ‘base’ 718, in a poverty spec, but it does have the options that help the handling - 18 inch wheels (not the massively heavy 20’s that many spec), PASM and torque vectoring. It’s also a manual. It doesn’t have the sports exhaust option, but there are those that say it’s pointless in a car fitted with a GPF exhaust anyway. I bought from an OPC, so it’s been through the 111 point check so it is minty, and is warrantied until November 2026. That means no large unexpected repair bills in the immediate future.

    Brings a huge smile to my face every time I manoeuvre my ample behind into the (only 2 way) base spec seats.

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    Personally if I were you the OP with that budget I would go for a 997.2 Carrera S pdk coupe…..
    The 997 shape is small and compact, and arguably more aesthetically pleasing than a 991.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aa388 View Post
    There’s a 928 S4 on the collecting cars auction site with 4 hours to run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Personally I'd go with the best/newest 718 Cayman you can afford. They are fantastic cars and very well built. I know the Porsche anoraks moan about the 4 pot engine but whatevs. Just make sure you get the sports exhaust option. And I wouldn't go 'S' either, standard 300bhp is enough on today's roads for most people.
    I couldn’t disagree more tbh! 4 pot, only made to last 10 years at best; I guess it all depends if you want something new and shiny!

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    I had a 996 3.4 for a while - loved it to bits. The problem with it as an everyday car was that it was really quite raw and I'm not as young as I was. A 991 would be a better day-to-day car but you're looking at serious money.

    Having driven a couple of 997s I think that's where I'd go - probably a Carrera S 3.8 manual. You'd pay about £30k, maybe a little more, and for that you'd get a 2010-ish model with well under 100k miles. No turbo, no PDK and you'd still be able to put a decent warranty on it.

    As an alternative, and if you don't mind a more primitive feeling cabin, a 996 Turbo. Bulletproof engine, will scare you witless and drain your wallet with its thirst for fuel and tyres.

    Oh, and I've yet to be in a 911 that doesn't feel a bit choppy in its ride quality. I owned my 911 concurrently with a LWB S-Class and it amazed me that the same piece of tarmac could feel quite so different when travelled over at the same speed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    I couldn’t disagree more tbh! 4 pot, only made to last 10 years at best; I guess it all depends if you want something new and shiny!
    Wait, Porsche made the current 718 engine to have a 10 year max lifespan?? Where have you got that from??

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Wait, Porsche made the current 718 engine to have a 10 year max lifespan?? Where have you got that from??
    Not the engine, I mean the car in general! Amount of cost saving measures in various places is unreal - long gone are the days of cars being built by engineers not penny pinchers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    Not the engine, I mean the car in general! Amount of cost saving measures in various places is unreal - long gone are the days of cars being built by engineers not penny pinchers!
    Well it felt pretty solid to me. I owned one during lockdown. My then gf bought and sold super cars. I'm not even kidding. We had all sorts on the drive. Lambos , GTRs, 488 Ferraris etc. We had a GTS 911 (think it was 2017 my) and tons of Cayman and Boxter 718s The 911 was incredible but at least twice the price. I don't recall the build quality being significantly better than the Cayman tbh. All the Porsches felt super well made including some of the older Caymans that passed through that had perhaps had a tougher life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    I couldn’t disagree more tbh! 4 pot, only made to last 10 years at best; I guess it all depends if you want something new and shiny!
    You're losing credibility here.
    Had enough older ones and a few newer ones and I'm not picking up on a decrease in build quality to the point of a 718 only being good for 10 years.

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    I wonder if the 2016 718s know they only have 2 years left?

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    Regards Cayman v 911
    IMO a Cayman is 90% of a 911(and a better size imo ) at half the price .
    Sometimes a 911 itch needs scratched though.
    I will agree with the 997S gen2 PDK comment-incredible car and last before they got a bit too bloated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Regards Cayman v 911
    IMO a Cayman is 90% of a 911(and a better size imo ) at half the price .
    Absolutely agree with this. I'd rather buy a nice solid Cayman with mf warranty than skimp on a 911. If I ever do own a 911 it'll be because I can afford a decent one. As it stands 'even' the Cayman is out of my budget currently.

    The idea of taking a punt on a 928 at auction fills me with dread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    I wonder if the 2016 718s know they only have 2 years left?
    They know that Porsche will warranty them out to 2031, so they are chilled….

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    IMHO I wouldn’t touch any of the newer stuff, Porsche specialist I use has had countless 718 etc in to have bits replaced due to cheap manufacturing.

    Having had a 3.2, 986S, 2 x 996 GT3’s, ‘74 3.0RS rep and a 996 Turbo, and with your budget I would go 996 Turbo and budget for some tweaks/maintenance all day long. Failing that get a well looked after 996 C2 with no sunroof and cable throttle and chuck some money at it to make it yours. sports and classic have a great example for sale currently. ▶️ Watch this video https://www.facebook.com/share/r/CMx...ibextid=WC7FNe
    If I was as handy with the spanners as you, ice probably feel more attracted to the older cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    Not the engine, I mean the car in general! Amount of cost saving measures in various places is unreal - long gone are the days of cars being built by engineers not penny pinchers!
    I have heard the same for a chap that details mainly Porsches. He stated the 981 and 991 are better built than the later models in terms of solidity of the cabin. Also, small things like heated screen washer boxers are now bot on the cars. A small but notable omission.

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    To be honest none of the rear engined stuff ever appealed to me. Always seemed a silly idea if you wanted something to go fast and handle. Was thinking about going Macan on the next change, the S seems good money from the reviews I've read.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldoakknives View Post
    To be honest none of the rear engined stuff ever appealed to me. Always seemed a silly idea if you wanted something to go fast and handle. Was thinking about going Macan on the next change, the S seems good money from the reviews I've read.
    I was quicker around Mallory Park in a race-prepped 205 GTI 1.9 than I was in a 911. Far more of a sense of occasion in the 911 though.

    The Macan is seriously fast but has all the charisma of a bath sponge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longblackcoat View Post
    I was quicker around Mallory Park in a race-prepped 205 GTI 1.9 than I was in a 911. Far more of a sense of occasion in the 911 though.

    The Macan is seriously fast but has all the charisma of a bath sponge.
    That kind of agrees with what I've heard. No doubt entertaining for those who enjoy coping with the peculiarities. On paper the Macan S is about the same as the F-Pace P400e I have now, but obviously it would drive differently. I think it's slightly smaller which wouldn't be a bad thing to be fair, although the stop/start is a bit of a negative for me. The P400e uses electric to pull away instantly before starting the ICE if required. I wonder if you can disable the stop/start on them?
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ditchvisitor View Post
    Not the engine, I mean the car in general! Amount of cost saving measures in various places is unreal - long gone are the days of cars being built by engineers not penny pinchers!
    I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with your 718. I've got one too and I've spent some time on the different 718 forums and the cars do seem quite solid, oldest are now eight years old and there are generally no big issues with them.

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    I've had a 996 turbo and a couple of 944s including my mega miles turbo which I use fairly regularly. I always figured I'd end up in a 911 and mine looked great but I didn't really find it that usable as a daily car.
    If I were looking with the OPs budget I'd be trying to find a gen 2 997 targa 4 or 4s. Either gearbox would be fine, I'd probably rather have a manual but if city routes were part of daily use then the pdk would have its advantages.
    The gen 2 engine gets you away from the IMS/bore scoring/RMS issues of the earlier NA cars and you aren't into full turbo nutter area which is probably over budget anyway.
    4wd and the targa roof make it very usable all year round - I have a saratoga roof in my 944 - basically a glass sunroof bought as part of a remanufacture of the originals in a global bulk buy a few years ago and it makes a lot of difference to cabin illumination.
    Also key is that the targa allows access to the rear passenger/storage space from the rear, coupes do not. This would be very useful for cabin storage etc. I found that my 944 was far more useful daily for this reason than the 996.



    997s have a much better interior and colour palette than the 996s. I like the sand interior of the second car below.
    Here's a couple - Portiacraft have a rep of a bit rough and ready but the cars tend to be ok

    targa 4
    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...o=2024&fromsra

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...o=2024&fromsra

    and 4s - a bit more go.
    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...o=2024&fromsra

    I'd want a colour, my 996 was cobalt blue but they must be out there.
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    Buy a 308, it will be cheaper in the long run.

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    Really interesting thread - I'm planning to buy a Cayman 987 gen 2 in the next few months and currently doing my research. They look like a lot of car for the money with some of the earlier gen 1 issues sorted.

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    Good thread. I am sizing up 986 and 987 boxsters, not that I am planning to do anything soon, but hopefully one day. I just need to keep buying g shocks for now...

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    No photos yet…disappointed!


    Have to say I moved up from a base 987.2 Boxster to a 981S with PSE and whilst both cars are brilliant to drive, the 981 is a nicer place to be sat in with the sound and power of the car being exhilarating.

    The 718 is obviously more modern with its cabin and I really like its back end but unless you get a 4.0 GTS then you will miss out of the true Porsche feeling and experience in my opinion. However, it is still a great driving car and if you haven’t driven a flat 6 then you most likely won’t miss it.

    I also find the cayman/boxsters more practical with the front and rear boots and provide about 90% of the fun of a 911 for about half the cost!

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