Is the Daytona too much to buy now …??

**forest172** · 8th July 2021, 20:46

Been offered an unpolished 2011 full set with original purchase receipt from original owner for £16.5k. What you guys think?

Can’t see me getting one from the AD I’m on list for anytime soon

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 8th July 2021, 20:52

Originally Posted by Mick P

Watches are no different that any other product such as houses, pens, cameras etc etc. They all are nice to use and we enjoy possessing them but they do have a value.

It is perfectly normal for a seller to want a high price and for a buyer to want a low price. The answer is either to negotiate or walk away if you don't like it.

Using the SC as some sort of hallowed ground where we all walk around loving and kissing each other and doing mates rates all the time is pure fantasy. Just pop over to the BP and you won't find much evidence of brotherly love. Strangely enough they often fall out because they think one member is screwing another member and until the day arrives when everyone ( and I mean everyone) professes love for every other member, you can kiss the idea of mates rates goodbye.

I came here in 2014 and everyone was at each others throats then, so did the good old days every really exist.

If you can't accept that some watches sell at more than RRP just walk away and spend the money on some other frippery because even if you moan here until you are blue in the face, the price will still remain over RRP.

**David_D** · 8th July 2021, 21:23

Originally Posted by forest172

Been offered an unpolished 2011 full set with original purchase receipt from original owner for £16.5k. What you guys think?

Can’t see me getting one from the AD I’m on list for anytime soon

Well obviously it’s not the ceramic bezel model but I don’t think that looks as good as the original.

Are you planning to buy to wear and enjoy or as an investment?

Personally I’m not interested in paying current market prices but if you plan to wear and enjoy and you have the money then why not?

**David_D** · 8th July 2021, 21:27

Originally Posted by Mj2k

“I sold over £1m of Rolex, I had to ask permission to get one”, struggled to respond to me asking how when they never have any stock.

£1m of Rolexes? What’s that, 100 watches? Big deal. In the current market that takes approximately no effort whatsoever - as indicated by his attitude towards you.

**David_D** · 8th July 2021, 21:34

Originally Posted by chrisparker

There are not many Musk's, Bazos', Zuckerberg's or Gates' around here.

I thought the same about the wealth where I am but, having been to one of the AD open evenings, I was staggered at the number of apparently seriously wealthy individuals and I’m not sure too many were doctors or architects. I think the main money is small businesses and property.

**forest172** · 8th July 2021, 21:34

Originally Posted by David_D

Well obviously it’s not the ceramic bezel model but I don’t think that looks as good as the original.

Are you planning to buy to wear and enjoy or as an investment?

Personally I’m not interested in paying current market prices but if you plan to wear and enjoy and you have the money then why not?

Would wear occasionally. Like the fact it’s the older one too

**paskinner** · 8th July 2021, 21:38

I take a simple approach. Wear and enjoy the watch. That’s the bit that matters. Making money seems drab and tedious. Have fun, get enjoyment, if it gets marked, so what. If owning watches isn’t fun, find a better hobby. Like supporting England…….

**David_D** · 8th July 2021, 21:43

Originally Posted by forest172

Would wear occasionally. Like the fact it’s the older one too

Nearly £10,000 more here so looks like a bargain in the current market.

https://www.chisholmhunter.co.uk/pre...520-61812.html

**forest172** · 8th July 2021, 21:46

Originally Posted by David_D

Nearly £10,000 more here so looks like a bargain in the current market.

https://www.chisholmhunter.co.uk/pre...520-61812.html

Blimey. Seeing it in the flesh tomorrow

**acg** · 9th July 2021, 10:03

Rather than start another Rolex thread I've a friend who's looking for a 116518LN

Yellow gold on an oysterflex.

He doesn't mind paying a small premium, any suggestions of where's best to look?

Mappin & Webb are giving him the run around.

**Mick P** · 9th July 2021, 10:36

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

Ever thought of trying an original retort.

If you don't like the current situation on prices, don't buy, it's as simple as that.

**David_D** · 9th July 2021, 11:39

Originally Posted by acg

Rather than start another Rolex thread I've a friend who's looking for a 116518LN

Yellow gold on an oysterflex.

He doesn't mind paying a small premium, any suggestions of where's best to look?

Mappin & Webb are giving him the run around.

Dealers appear to be asking for a £10,000+ premium but not sure what your friend’s definition of “small” is.

What do you mean about M&W? Unless he’s shovelling money at them for other stuff, he’s not likely to get first dibs on a watch he could reportedly immediately sell at a £10,000 profit.

**paskinner** · 9th July 2021, 13:21

I thought Rolex dealers, authorised ones, are not allowed to accept ‘a small premium’. Its retail price only, although you can get lucky and get a small discount (not premium). I paid straight, standard, retail, no arquing or quibbling. I just took what I was offered, and ‘thank you’. Strange retail days.
Btw: i do think the Oysterflex is a bit of a killer. Will balance very well with a great big chunk of gold.
And ought to be far cheaper (rubber v solid gold)

**David_D** · 9th July 2021, 14:16

Originally Posted by paskinner

although you can get lucky and get a small discount

Not recently, surely??

**acg** · 9th July 2021, 14:27

Sorry I meant a premium from a grey or similar.

Any recommendations on that front?

His family has decent history with the company and I was under the impression that gold ones are easier to get but then I know very little about Rolex and he’s been told a year or more

**mjrennie** · 10th July 2021, 07:19

I use the date function on a watch. This rules the Daytona out, plus it wears small on my wrist. The prices are absurd.

**RJM25R** · 10th July 2021, 07:53

If I was in the market for one of these I’d be going two-tone

Much better value and easier to get.

**Gareth-W** · 10th July 2021, 20:06

Originally Posted by David_D

Not recently, surely??

Not going to happen with any PM Daytona on oysterflex……not a chance David.

**Loupe** · 12th July 2021, 13:03

I’ve noticed that WF haven’t had any 116520s listed for a while, are they holding then relisting to take a jump in price?

**paskinner** · 12th July 2021, 13:18

But lots of things in this world are too pricey. So we don’t have to buy them, any of them. I don’t really understand the point, no-one is forced to buy a Daytona. It’s just a little watch. Or how about a big house or a Rolls or diamonds, or……..anything at all. Maybe a yacht? Or a giant jet? On and on.

There is no ‘force’ for most of us, perfectly happy with our normal lives.no one, ever, needs a watch. You all know that……

**Mick P** · 12th July 2021, 15:17

Originally Posted by paskinner

But lots of things in this world are too pricey. So we don’t have to buy them, any of them. I don’t really understand the point, no-one is forced to buy a Daytona. It’s just a little watch. Or how about a big house or a Rolls or diamonds, or……..anything at all. Maybe a yacht? Or a giant jet? On and on.

There is no ‘force’ for most of us, perfectly happy with our normal lives.no one, ever, needs a watch. You all know that……

Spot on and 100% correct

**mrsammyp** · 12th July 2021, 16:51

I’ve heard a rumour that Rolex are looking to pull the stainless steel Daytona in the near future. I wonder what that would do to the current values…

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**Justin Case** · 12th July 2021, 17:15

Originally Posted by mrsammyp

I’ve heard a rumour that Rolex are looking to pull the stainless steel Daytona in the near future

Fortune cookie?

**MCFastybloke** · 12th July 2021, 17:30

Originally Posted by mrsammyp

I’ve heard a rumour that Rolex are looking to pull the stainless steel Daytona in the near future. I wonder what that would do to the current values…

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Higher than Beardy!

**mrsammyp** · 12th July 2021, 17:46

Originally Posted by Justin Case

Fortune cookie?

…or somebody senior within WoS Group

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**Justin Case** · 12th July 2021, 17:52

Originally Posted by mrsammyp

…or somebody senior within WoS Group

Lol.

**farmkid** · 12th July 2021, 18:24

I certainly don’t think the steel Daytona is worth 29k- but obviously some folk do

**Gareth-W** · 13th July 2021, 12:39

Originally Posted by mrsammyp

I’ve heard a rumour that Rolex are looking to pull the stainless steel Daytona in the near future. I wonder what that would do to the current values…

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Yes, we can all see that happening as it's clearly not doing anything for Rolex as a brand.

Not.

**Billy4389** · 13th July 2021, 12:47

Originally Posted by Loupe

I’ve noticed that WF haven’t had any 116520s listed for a while, are they holding then relisting to take a jump in price?

I noticed this too, I was looking at them a few months ago there was around 8/9 black ones and no white dials. But they haven’t had any in for a while now which is strange

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**jukeboxs** · 13th July 2021, 13:11

Originally Posted by mrsammyp

I’ve heard a rumour that Rolex are looking to pull the stainless steel Daytona in the near future. I wonder what that would do to the current values…

Just goes to show, never sell a Rolex (certainly not a SS sports model) - well, not until just before the bubble bursts (in the never-never).

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 14th July 2021, 10:29

Originally Posted by Loupe

I’ve noticed that WF haven’t had any 116520s listed for a while, are they holding then relisting to take a jump in price?

??????

Currently have 2 in stock plus a decent spread of others.

**jukeboxs** · 14th July 2021, 10:37

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

??????

Currently have 2 in stock plus a decent spread of others.

I think you're looking at the ceramic 116500 (of which I can see 4), whereas Loupe is talking about the 116520 (of which I can see 1).

**klunk** · 14th July 2021, 10:38

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

??????

Currently have 2 in stock plus a decent spread of others.

I only see 1 in stock

**Chris_in_the_UK** · 14th July 2021, 10:45

Originally Posted by klunk

I only see 1 in stock

https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search?q=daytona

**crazyp** · 14th July 2021, 10:52

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search?q=daytona

I think the discussion is specifically around 116520s - there is only one in stock.

**gaurav_tzuk** · 14th July 2021, 10:58

Seems the two tones are now fetching a premium as well !

**Loupe** · 14th July 2021, 11:04

Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK

??????

Currently have 2 in stock plus a decent spread of others.

116520.
When I posted over a week ago there were none in stock, now there’s only one and I’m pretty sure it’s increased in price.

**Buster73** · 14th July 2021, 18:29

Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk

Seems the two tones are now fetching a premium as well !

Years ago a pal of mine ox’s his white faced steel Daytona for a TT model, he convinced himself he got the better end of the deal 😂

**Mick P** · 14th July 2021, 20:46

Originally Posted by gaurav_tzuk

Seems the two tones are now fetching a premium as well !

I think not.

Take a look at this.

https://www.watchcollecting.com/?ref...5D=sold&page=1

SS Daytona 3rd line down went for £23,500.

TT Daytona 8th line down went for £10,250.

**Justin Case** · 14th July 2021, 20:50

Originally Posted by Mick P

I think not.

Take a look at this.

https://www.watchcollecting.com/?ref...5D=sold&page=1

SS Daytona 3rd line down went for £23,500.

TT Daytona 8th line down went for £10,250.

£23.5k seems relatively cheap when you consider dealer prices.

**wileeeeeey** · 14th July 2021, 21:19

£23.5k seems a safe bet for one of those.

**Boss13** · 14th July 2021, 21:20

Don’t forget the buyer premium 6%. Takes it to 25k. If I read that part correctly.

**David_D** · 14th July 2021, 21:21

Originally Posted by Mick P

TT Daytona 8th line down went for £10,250.

List is £14,000 so that’s surprising - to say the least.

WF offerings all comfortably over list.

Platinum one for £125,000!!

**Aimforthebushes** · 14th July 2021, 21:30

IMO its way too much. I've stomached paying a small premium for a couple of watches in the past but have just considered that impatience tax and told myself a price increase or two would cover it. 20k over list is a hell of a lot of price increases

**Satori** · 14th July 2021, 21:56

Originally Posted by Mick P

I think not.

Take a look at this.

https://www.watchcollecting.com/?ref...5D=sold&page=1

SS Daytona 3rd line down went for £23,500.

TT Daytona 8th line down went for £10,250.

Oh don’t be so silly. You know that the post you quoted was referring to the current model, not a 20 year old watch that looks like a tank has driven over it.

**Gareth-W** · 14th July 2021, 22:00

Originally Posted by crazyp

I think the discussion is specifically around 116520s - there is only one in stock.

Watchfinder don’t list all their stock if they have multiples of any model in their inventory…..sell a few, add few on hold to replace the sold ones. Etc.

**lenlec** · 14th July 2021, 22:06

The local AD in my town said the demand for the platinum Daytona is crazy. Even at a list of around £60k I think.
He gets one a year

**paskinner** · 14th July 2021, 22:22

Just a couple of weeks ago I bought a gold Daytona, new at standard list direct from a Rolex dealer. Not that I care about any of this, because I will never sell. I don’t care about the money, not in the slightest, . I bought the watch because i wanted one so pretty to my tastes. It’s for me, just me. Never for money.

.

**Gareth-W** · 14th July 2021, 22:28

Originally Posted by lenlec

The local AD in my town said the demand for the platinum Daytona is crazy. Even at a list of around £60 I think.
He gets one a year

At £60 for a Platonia put me down for 3 my good man…

**lenlec** · 14th July 2021, 22:37

Originally Posted by Gareth-W

At £60 for a Platonia put me down for 3 my good man…

Haha. Well spotted mate

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