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    I saw an article the other day that essentially said something like the marketing big data picks up which phones you hang around with and shares their marketing suggestions/recent purchases with you. So if theyíve been Googling Uranus and then chat to you about it and you start seeing ads that might be a reason.

    I have no idea but that made sense and was marginally less creepy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I keep getting adverts for penis reduction surgery.

    How odd.
    I'd hope they would be able to make it even TBH. ;)

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    I was forever getting targeted ads via Facebook
    Donít have any listening devices other than iPhone. Iíve deleted Google and installed DuckDuckGo

    Hallelujah no more tracking adds , just random non targeted ones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Halitosis View Post
    But almost everyone has a mobile phone, and they listen too (I was in a pub garden with friends when we did the Namibia experiment)


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    Tried that while out and about, no Facebook ads unfortunately but a few people did stop to ask if I was ok, needed any helpÖ.

    Canít get that song Africa by Toto out of my head either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeveal View Post
    It strikes me that there are two major differences between our world and the one that Orwell wrote about in 1984.

    Firstly, it's not the governments that are listening to your conversations, it's the corporations. Arguably the corporations have more influence.

    Secondly, in 1984, party members are forced to accept telescreens, proles aren't monitored & no-one bellyfeels the telescreens.

    Oh Alexa, how double-plus-ungood.
    Great point, I don't think many would have anticipated how we would have welcomed all of this data gathering & surveillance etc. with open arms. We've productised ourselves

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    Everyone should watch this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    I was forever getting targeted ads via Facebook
    Donít have any listening devices other than iPhone. Iíve deleted Google and installed DuckDuckGo

    Hallelujah no more tracking adds , just random non targeted ones.


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    Been loving duckduckgo. Still feel like googles just the tip of the iceberg for me though. Maybe its time to go back to the trusty 3310

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    I'm not too bothered by it, saying that I bought a second hand iMac the other day and the owner in his 50's had a little removable sticker over the camera, said he didn't trust it so kept it covered up, maybe they are not only listening but also watching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    I'm not too bothered by it, saying that I bought a second hand iMac the other day and the owner in his 50's had a little removable sticker over the camera, said he didn't trust it so kept it covered up, maybe they are not only listening but also watching!
    Zuck covers the mic too and uses Thunderbird for email. Pic attached.

    James Comey also does - https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-...-webcam-2016-9

    I thought most people covered their webcam now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I keep getting adverts for penis reduction surgery.

    How odd.

    Sounds like someoneís popping round while you are at work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    I'm not too bothered by it, saying that I bought a second hand iMac the other day and the owner in his 50's had a little removable sticker over the camera, said he didn't trust it so kept it covered up, maybe they are not only listening but also watching!
    Was there not a school in America a few years back who got into trouble because they remote switched on the cameras in the laptops they had given out to students to check they were doing their homework?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Zuck covers the mic too and uses Thunderbird for email. Pic attached.

    James Comey also does - https://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-...-webcam-2016-9

    I thought most people covered their webcam now.
    Interesting, whatís the Thunderbird for email about?

    We stare into our phone (like I am now) with a camera looking right at me and a mic, also most of us will have email on mobile too and god knows what other personal info, like I said Iím not too concerned if big brother is watching, Iím not particularly interesting and donít have anything to hide.

    Apparently this is where all our data goes for storage - Switch, Las Vegas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    Interesting, whatís the Thunderbird for email about?

    We stare into our phone (like I am now) with a camera looking right at me and a mic, also most of us will have email on mobile too and god knows what other personal info, like I said Iím not too concerned if big brother is watching, Iím not particularly interesting and donít have anything to hide.

    Apparently this is where all our data goes for storage - Switch, Las Vegas.
    Thunderbird is just an email client like Outlook or Mail but with a focus on privacy, lack of bloat and has a load of good extensions.

    Bit redundant as I use my phone 99.9% of the time and only use my personal laptop a handful of times per year but "every little helps" I guess.

    I've recently got a Proton email account but haven't used it yet as I want to double check on storage/fees first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    We stare into our phone (like I am now) with a camera looking right at me and a mic, also most of us will have email on mobile too and god knows what other personal info, like I said Iím not too concerned if big brother is watching, Iím not particularly interesting and donít have anything to hide.
    This is the best attitude if you have a smartphone. You will never, ever know whether you have a Remote Access Trojan installed that can turn on and off the camera and microphone, monitor your GPS location, look at your unencrypted messages, e-mails, browser history and saved images. There are some that can even insert messages to make them look as though they originated from you and modify browser history.

    Droidjack is just one example, inexpensive and impossible to detect. Popular with suspicious spouses.

    RATs can be installed via many routes such as malicious hyperlinks, fake public WiFi hotspots and convenient free charging points.

    Despite popular myth iPhones are not immune. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49520355
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimforthebushes View Post
    Been loving duckduckgo. Still feel like googles just the tip of the iceberg for me though. Maybe its time to go back to the trusty 3310
    Yep


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    As previously mentioned watch this channel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I keep getting adverts for penis reduction surgery.

    How odd.
    Well, you did mention your fondness for an Arabian method of manhood enlargement. Perhaps the algorithm thinks you've overdone it?
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    If my smart TV was listening to me watching BBC news - BoJo would be getting pop-up adverts for flak-jackets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    We stare into our phone (like I am now) with a camera looking right at me and a mic, also most of us will have email on mobile too and god knows what other personal info, like I said Iím not too concerned if big brother is watching, Iím not particularly interesting and donít have anything to hide.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    This is the best attitude if you have a smartphone.
    Only if living in a house built of one-way mirrors is your kind of thing, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murkeywaters View Post
    I'm not too bothered by it, saying that I bought a second hand iMac the other day and the owner in his 50's had a little removable sticker over the camera, said he didn't trust it so kept it covered up, maybe they are not only listening but also watching!
    we got them free when we went to a work security seminar. A lot of us added them to our work machines - excellent for zoom calls to black out when munching at the desk after a liquid lunch.

    "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly soĒ. HHGTTG


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    It must be tough being forced to buy all of the stuff from targeted ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GraniteQuarry View Post
    I keep getting adverts for penis reduction surgery.

    How odd.
    Me too, I put it down to me saying "Oh here's that enormous dick, again" whenever Boris Johnson appears...

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    I just ignore any/all adverts, the ones on the telly too although much is downloaded so ad free anyway.

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    Wouldn't have any of these in my Alexa thingys in my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    I've been telling my Echo Dot, without invoking the "wake" word (ie when it's not supposed to be listening), about my need for a particular consumer item every now and then for two days now. So far I haven't seen any relevant ads pop up anywhere, but I'll keep going.
    So, I did this. I continued for about a week or so, not every day but most days. I was careful to choose an item that I hadn't recently googled, or seen on a website, or searched anywhere on the World Wide Web. It was a dog collar. I don't have a dog and I don't spend my spare time watching dog videos on YouTube or anything like that. I was very careful never to mention dog collars when it was in "listen" mode, but when it wasn't supposed to be listening I'd occasionally say "I wish I had a dog collar" or "I want a dog collar" or "I really need a dog collar". This is the first time since I had the idea that I've referred to dog collars anywhere online.

    I never saw an ad for a dog collar, and I still haven't.

    But yesterday the yellow notification light flashed on the Dot on my desk.

    "Alexa, what are my notifications?" I enquired.

    "Your package including pet collar is due to arrive today", was the reply. Unfortunately I was distracted by something else at work at the same time and never checked my orders. I've just checked them and can find no reference to a pet collar. Certainly, I haven't received one.

    Odd, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogroover View Post
    So, I did this. I continued for about a week or so, not every day but most days. I was careful to choose an item that I hadn't recently googled, or seen on a website, or searched anywhere on the World Wide Web. It was a dog collar. I don't have a dog and I don't spend my spare time watching dog videos on YouTube or anything like that. I was very careful never to mention dog collars when it was in "listen" mode, but when it wasn't supposed to be listening I'd occasionally say "I wish I had a dog collar" or "I want a dog collar" or "I really need a dog collar". This is the first time since I had the idea that I've referred to dog collars anywhere online.

    I never saw an ad for a dog collar, and I still haven't.

    But yesterday the yellow notification light flashed on the Dot on my desk.

    "Alexa, what are my notifications?" I enquired.

    "Your package including pet collar is due to arrive today", was the reply. Unfortunately I was distracted by something else at work at the same time and never checked my orders. I've just checked them and can find no reference to a pet collar. Certainly, I haven't received one.

    Odd, eh?
    Iíve sent you my dog collar as per the other thread.

    You start this Sunday.

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