Reply With QuoteThis is a very personal aspect:Originally Posted by Rocket Man
if they are not able to make at least two micro holes to adjust the bracelet, let alone on-the-fly adjustment, then they do not appreciate me as a customer anyway
It's a 5K watch, FFS
The latest versions of the 9F GMT are being released this month: SBGN019 and 021
I'd considering buying the current versions (SBGN003 and 005) but their similarity to the design of the Explorer II with the steel bezel held me back. The new cases are much more classic Grand Seiko in style and they've been upgraded with a ceramic bezel. Unfortunately the price has also been upgraded by over a grand! I'm a GS fan but it seems like they are becoming less of a value proposition now that these are 4K. What do we think of the new models?
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...iko-quartz-gmt
https://timeandtidewatches.com/hands...thing-watches/
Last edited by Rocket Man; 1st June 2021 at 18:28.
This is a very personal aspect:
if they are not able to make at least two micro holes to adjust the bracelet, let alone on-the-fly adjustment, then they do not appreciate me as a customer anyway
It's a 5K watch, FFS
Don't forget that GS bracelets usually have exceptionally small screws, making seasonal adjustments a pain. They are like tiny grub screws that secure a pin, in the middle of the link, from either end.This is a very personal aspect:
if they are not able to make at least two micro holes to adjust the bracelet, let alone on-the-fly adjustment, then they do not appreciate me as a customer anyway
It's a 5K watch, FFS
Magnification, a sizing block, watchmaker's tweezers and screwdrivers, would be all needed for an 'on the fly adjustment'.
I don't take my GS GMT abroad, if I'm going anywhere hot.
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I have found once the bracelet is sized correctly with the half links (if required) it works perfectly and doesn’t require any on-the-fly adjustment.This is a very personal aspect:
if they are not able to make at least two micro holes to adjust the bracelet, let alone on-the-fly adjustment, then they do not appreciate me as a customer anyway
It's a 5K watch, FFS
Those ceramic bezels that look like they turn, but don't, irk me. Substantially reduced functionality of the watch yet with a price hike...
I still struggle with most GS. They’re like a Fireblade. Exquisitely engineered and near flawless in every aspect. Head says yes. Heart says one of the competitors, one with a bit more soul.
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I think I prefer the "Explorer II" type GS. But these look interesting and 40mm is a good size - some of the recent GS have been too big for me.
On the Explorer II lookalike thing, I would quietly point out that Seiko released this in 1968:
(photo from the excellent site run I think by a member here?)
Rolex released the Explorer II in 1971.
TT
Now that is a gorgeous Seiko GMTI think I prefer the "Explorer II" type GS. But these look interesting and 40mm is a good size - some of the recent GS have been too big for me.
On the Explorer II lookalike thing, I would quietly point out that Seiko released this in 1968:
(photo from the excellent site run I think by a member here?)
Rolex released the Explorer II in 1971.
TT
Glycine released the Airman 1 in 1953I think I prefer the "Explorer II" type GS. But these look interesting and 40mm is a good size - some of the recent GS have been too big for me.
On the Explorer II lookalike thing, I would quietly point out that Seiko released this in 1968:
(photo from the excellent site run I think by a member here?)
Rolex released the Explorer II in 1971.
TT
I love my GS 60th Anniversary Limited Edition SBGP015. The aggressive lug design just elevates the watch especially with the stunning gloss dial and exquisite markers, but at 40mm I would love a 42mm version. These two new models look great with the same case design but alas, they too are 40mm. Maybe one day a 42mm HAQ model will be born.
.. and even better, the 6117 comes with black/silver or blue dials.. mine thus:
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What about a 43.6mm SBGX335 ? Here's one I prepared earlier...
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Great watches. Mine.
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I've had afew GS's and the attention to detail on the dials is incredible. Unfortunately, for me anyway, the bracelets seem to be an afterthought and sub standard. I had the Ti Diver and the clasp was the same pressed steel affair that was on my Orient sat Diver albeit with different logo stamp. Very poor for a premium watch.
That's pretty cool aside from the crown at 4, I must be too much of a traditionalist. I have an SBGA031 diver which has a fantastic dial and brushed titanium hands, so I can imagine yours is stunning in person.
One of the best GS in the catalogue!
Lucky you.
The problem is that the circumference of my wrist varies by ten millimeters thru a day.
I like the case of the new GMT’s. Not sure about the dial pattern, a bit too much of a “cocktail time” vibe to my eye. The bezel does work to give it more of a unique look.
I think the dial is quite busy now - I'm not sure it really adds anything to the watch in all honesty. But it does seem quite a jump in price from the older ones and I haven't quite worked out where that difference is coming from
Tend to agree. Saw one of these in the flesh on Saturday. The 'cocktail' striations on the dial were quite discreet but it's a design that I find looks a little cheap personally. The bezel is also very thin, again not to my taste, and aesthetically somewhat at odds with the choice of the more aggressive, blocky case they went with. I'd certainly take the old model over the new.
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