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    Rolex Explorer 36mm - Ref 124270

    Here is a Youtube clip from Bark and Jack about the new 36mm Explorer. The man is a definite fan of the 36mm models but he admits that the new model is the one to have.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H632yA_01I

    Please enjoy.

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    I’m down for one - I was told one to two years.

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    Below is from the video.

    It’s too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 893bet View Post
    Below is from the video.

    It’s too small.

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    Each to their own and all that but that looks tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Each to their own and all that but that looks tiny.
    I agree it looks tiny, not helped by the sharply tapering bracelet. I think Adrian from B&J has about 6.5” wrists, so he’s not a big guy either. The 39 was a good size for this watch.

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    It will be interesting to see how it wears with the increased taper,


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    I went to pick up the gold steel version last week and turned it down. I was wearing my 126231 at the time and thought it looked and felt much smaller.

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    Rolex Explorer 36mm - Ref 124270

    Quote Originally Posted by markbannister View Post
    I went to pick up the gold steel version last week and turned it down. I was wearing my 126231 at the time and thought it looked and felt much smaller.
    That’s interesting to hear, I was looking for this to be in a potential 2 watch collection with my 126234 so feeling I may be in a similar boat. I think the 126234 is an excellent size.


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    I'll stick with the 114270





    And the two-tone version is just weird:


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    I wanted to love this watch but it would wear far too small for me. The 16mm taper on my 14060m often seems too small for me. Ah well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    I wanted to love this watch but it would wear far too small for me. The 16mm taper on my 14060m often seems too small for me. Ah well!
    My daily beater is a 39mm Explorer and during the purchasing process the salesman showed me his 36mm one which he had worn for yonks. You could hardly notice the difference in the size, it was the 39mm's bling that set them apart.

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    Nice video. Hopefully will see this in person soon enough.

    Should be more available than most SS models purely on size.

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    shots in that video show the older and new 36mm side by side, newer seems to wear noticeably smaller thanks to the 19mm lug width and tapered bracelet. a strange decision for them to make, given that 36mm is already on the smaller side by today's standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    I'll stick with the 114270





    And the two-tone version is just weird:

    Really like the 2 tone one.

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    Perfect Rolex case size! Not sure about bracelet though. Was convinced they’d kept the classic 20 - 16mm.

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    There are quite a variety of different wrist sizes. Correspondingly, there are a variety of different bracelet sizes. Yet it appears to be a source of endless fascination. Rolex know what sells, and my guess would be around 38-40. But there is a large female market, and that will be 36-34 . My partner has a 34 0P and it looks excellent on a normal size woman. Apparently, it’s a big, lucrative, market.
    With fashion, there will be a constant fluctuation. I wear 42mm and it seems normal, just what you are used to.
    Like clothes fashions. there is no steady answer.

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    My father bought a 28mm watch (Mondia) in 1942 and wore it every day until he died in 1971. After years of shortages and rationing it was considered unbecoming to flash your wealth about so watches were small and slim. The 39mm Explorer that I am currently wearing would have been considered a spivs watch, the sort of bloke you just could not trust.

    But fashions do change and the one thing that would cause the value of modern Rolex to sink is a return to small watches. We have to be honest, although Rolex are a brilliant watch, there is a touch of loudness about them due to their size and bling.

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    Case size is very much down to what you are used to and I'm pretty sure most people could get used to a 36mm case size. I had a 114270 for years and I always found it to be the perfect size on my 7 inch wrists. Fast forward to today and I now have a small collection of much bigger watches. When I put my 37mm Grand Seiko on (very similar in size to a 36mm Explorer) for the first time in a while it does feel small but in time it starts to look normal. The same happens the other way too. I switched to a Linde Werdelin this week and it felt comedy big but a few days in and it feels normal again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Case size is very much down to what you are used to and I'm pretty sure most people could get used to a 36mm case size. I had a 114270 for years and I always found it to be the perfect size on my 7 inch wrists. Fast forward to today and I now have a small collection of much bigger watches. When I put my 37mm Grand Seiko on (very similar in size to a 36mm Explorer) for the first time in a while it does feel small but in time it starts to look normal. The same happens the other way too. I switched to a Linde Werdelin this week and it felt comedy big but a few days in and it feels normal again.
    Yes indeed I agree, put this on after a 41mm OP which made it feel small in comparison.

    After a few hours you become dialled in so to speak.. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    There are quite a variety of different wrist sizes. Correspondingly, there are a variety of different bracelet sizes. Yet it appears to be a source of endless fascination. Rolex know what sells, and my guess would be around 38-40. But there is a large female market, and that will be 36-34 . My partner has a 34 0P and it looks excellent on a normal size woman. Apparently, it’s a big, lucrative, market.
    With fashion, there will be a constant fluctuation. I wear 42mm and it seems normal, just what you are used to.
    Like clothes fashions. there is no steady answer.
    personally i wear 34-42, but agree that 38-40 is probably the sweet spot for men at this point, which makes it baffling that they discontinued all the 39mm OPs as well as the explorer.

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    Does look too small, especially with the thinner bracelet and baby version of the clasp. I suspect B&J would’ve loved it no matter what they did.

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    Nice strap would be the solution for me.

    Won’t even try to like the bracelet.

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    Nice watch, but the bracelet looks odd, at least in the video. I think the 20-16 looks more appropriate.

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    I think it looks great. For me, it is the best watch in the current Rolex lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackjack View Post
    I got mine yesterday. I had a Daytona on before putting it on and I was very shocked by the size. Thinking it’s probably me going from 40mm to a 36mm made me feel that way.

    I’ve had it on all day today to get used to it and it just kept bugging me. From the size it just looked small. So I took out my vintage Datejust and did some comparisons. Then I saw it, the bracelet taper. It kind of makes it look like a 34/31mm watch with that taper.



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    It’s a shame as the head of the watch is perfect. I’ll see if it still bothers me after a few days otherwise I might give to one of my siblings.
    Worth copying Jack's comments from a different thread here.

    Great looking watch but bracelet taper seems a bit odd.

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    What am I missing about the bracelet? Isn't it the same size as the 114270?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    What am I missing about the bracelet? Isn't it the same size as the 114270?
    No

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    A bit like the 39mm version I suspect it will look better in photos than on. The taper on the bracelet is extreme and will make it wear like a 34 because it’s not a true 36mm case.

    I think for the first time, the 36mm OP is the watch to have over the explorer.

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    So what size is the bracelet then? The 114270 is 20mm-16mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    So what size is the bracelet then? The 114270 is 20mm-16mm.
    19mm tapering to 14mm, with a 16mm clasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    So what size is the bracelet then? The 114270 is 20mm-16mm.
    Isn’t it 19mm - 14mm.

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    I’m a huge fan of the 36mm. I really hope I can land one soon. Got in touch with my AD hours after it was announced. Will follow up my interest soon

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    It does look smaller than the original 36mm.

    Also, it may have been just the lighting but in several shots, it looked like the dial was dented inwards around the central post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    It does look smaller than the original 36mm.

    Also, it may have been just the lighting but in several shots, it looked like the dial was dented inwards around the central post?
    I think the AR coating used on the new one has the effect of making the dial case look tighter. In the opening mins of the video he explains the tenths of mm differences. Steve

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    When I saw the announcement I just assumed they would start remaking the 114270 with a new movement.

    Thinning down the bracelet seems an odd move but who knows how those guys think ... will sell so who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    It does look smaller than the original 36mm.

    Also, it may have been just the lighting but in several shots, it looked like the dial was dented inwards around the central post?
    All the Rolex I’ve owned were ‘dented inwards around the central post’. I think it’s on purpose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    All the Rolex I’ve owned were ‘dented inwards around the central post’. I think it’s on purpose.


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    Many have a sink hole effect most visible on glossy dials.

    The first time I saw it, I thought it was the sign of a fake, but the opposite is true. It's a feature.

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    Anyone had first hand experience with approximate wait times? Put my name down for one at a Goldsmiths I have purchase history with. The sales assistant was lovely, and incredibly helpful, but said she honestly had no idea how long I might be waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainRockNRoll View Post
    Anyone had first hand experience with approximate wait times? Put my name down for one at a Goldsmiths I have purchase history with. The sales assistant was lovely, and incredibly helpful, but said she honestly had no idea how long I might be waiting.
    Considering the watch was only release 2 months ago, I think I can speak for anyone with first hand experience in saying the wait time was under 2 months

    Unfortunately, I suspect that does not represent the full story! Anecdotally it seems Rolex is a crap shoot, some folk stick their name down for a Sub and it turns up 2 months later with no prior history, others report waiting years with no luck despite previous purchases.

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    Picked mine up last week from my local AD, with no previous spend history. Couldn’t be happier with the watch, it’s beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainRockNRoll View Post
    Picked mine up last week from my local AD, with no previous spend history. Couldn’t be happier with the watch, it’s beautiful.
    Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainRockNRoll View Post
    Picked mine up last week from my local AD, with no previous spend history. Couldn’t be happier with the watch, it’s beautiful.
    How long was your wait if you don't mind me asking? I have been down with a few local ADs for a few months but not holding my breath to be honest...

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    I bought the 214270 39mm version last year which I love, although I understand the purists think it should always have remained 36mm.
    I have been rather surprised by the sharp increase in advertised used prices since it was discontinued.
    Maybe the fact that it only had a 5 year run might make it a future 'rarity' (as much as anything is a rarity considering the volumes made).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    I bought the 214270 39mm version last year which I love, although I understand the purists think it should always have remained 36mm.
    I have been rather surprised by the sharp increase in advertised used prices since it was discontinued.
    Maybe the fact that it only had a 5 year run might make it a future 'rarity' (as much as anything is a rarity considering the volumes made).
    I have the MK1 version of the 39mm, the one that was pitchforked over the stubby hands. Low run and slow sales today equals a sought after classic in years to come.

    I personally prefer the 39mm version, it's the perfect watch.

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    Having difficulty finding one in London, my local WoS branch are telling me that they haven't received any new releases but don't expect this new Explorer to be popular.

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    So is it 19mm the actual lug width, or the first link?

    19 to 14 taper excluding end link and clasp?

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    As ever, looking at pics on a computer screen is pointless and about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Until you see the thing in the flesh you know now't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    So is it 19mm the actual lug width, or the first link?

    19 to 14 taper excluding end link and clasp?
    19mm is lug width yes. Tapers to 14mm with a 16mm clasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1011 View Post
    19mm is lug width yes. Tapers to 14mm with a 16mm clasp.
    Thank you!
    Maybe not that bad then.

    Submariner goes from 21 to 16.5mm. With 18.5mm clasp.

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    Thinking about it, an Explorer in exactly the right size might just be the most appealing watch in the entire Rolex collection. That’s a situation they might want to avoid given that it’s the entry level sports offering. Lucky for anyone that fits the previous or new model, but for the rest of us it feels like they’re trying extremely hard to avoid making one that’s perfect.

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