Sounds right to me, even if it's a bit out either way, unless the car is a classic you are swapping a depreciating asset for an appreciating asset.
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I’m potentially doing a deal with a car I have . The lad wanting it has an unworn 116610LN, all complete , purchase invoice etc. Still with most of stickers etc which he wants to put in with some cash.
In terms of “value” where would it sit. My own view is that it would be comfortable at £9k, am I off the mark at that. He bought it brand new from local AD with receipts. I think the deal is ok but just looking for a bit of a second opinion
Sounds right to me, even if it's a bit out either way, unless the car is a classic you are swapping a depreciating asset for an appreciating asset.
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I think that’s a good place to set the value at. If I was buying I’d be looking at £9k and if I was selling I’d be hoping mid to high £9’s. So in my opinion that trade value is about right, you’re being fair.
How can you be sure it's genuine? The fakes nowadays are very scary. I would tell him to sell it to Watchfinder and give you the cash.
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Which year is the watch? 9k sounds about right either way.
Do you want the watch? If not tell him to sell to a dealer and pay you cash. Simple!
How old is the Sub? I'd think a it would be worth 9.5k minimum assuming real and full set.
>The lad wanting it has an unworn 116610LN<
I'm hearing alarm bells.
I’ve seen superfakes with excellent “delivery stickers,” genuine boxes / booklets / tag and brilliant sales paperwork which we identified as fake only because the watch was and it had to be. They’re around in big numbers and many have them without realising.
Happy to look at it for free for you.
He's buying a car that is on a database and can easily be traced , if it was fake he won't trade it for something so traceable
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Was he the original purchaser named on the paperwork? If so, you may be ok. If not, he may have been duped himself.
Is this particularly a watch you want? If so I think I'd get onto Haywood or C24 or WF or whatever, and get a genuine one with the cash proceeds of the car.
It sounds like you are trying to convince yourself it's genuine but at £9k value, it needs more validation.
Much appreciated.
The watch includes the electronic receipt and the hand written one from the supplying AD with watch serial number and original/current owners details. The guy has been on the single make car forum I’m on for years. I do appreciate the advice though,
I don't wish to be the voice of doom nor to feed Mick P's paranoia, but it's a simple fact that the baddies know very well that such things are taken by many to give "peace of mind" and this is why fake POS receipts, from individual ADs and in any name they choose, commonly accompany the SuperFakes that they are trying to get past / getting past the trade.
Please cover yourself every way that you can, with written agreement that you are going to have the watch inspected and what happens if it is not as presented.
I would prefer inspection beforehand.
Thanks again gents. As a retired bobby I’m probably as paranoid as anyone about being duped. Just by way of the back story, the lad im doing the deal with is on both a Lotus forum and a Renault forum im on, he’s been on there a similar length of time to myself, quite a number of years.
He put a wanted post on with a twist in that he had the Sub he had bought in 2020 from an AD down south and did anyone fancy doing a deal with a Renaultsport Clio and some cash. All the paperwork matches him and the watch. The deal we are looking at sits the sub at anywhere between £8500 and £9k (depending on how you value my car obviously). He paid RRP for the watch.
As it would be buying on here there has to be some element of trust and looking at his profiles elsewhere on the net he is eminently traceable and of good standing.
It’s an interesting one certainly