Reply With QuoteAwesome machines.
Last month I sold my Porsche 914. Before that, I even started a thread asking "What's next?" Tons of comments and I have some ideas myself. Until yesterday, when I spotted this...
Toyota Land Cruiser BJ40
More pics here: https://www.dunnewind.nl/aanbod/toyo...d-2500719.html
A little more expensive than I'd figured, but I've sold a bunch of watches as well.
I have not LC experience. My wife has, but she's biased: those beasts have driven her through Afghanistan via the Karakoram Highway to Pakistan (She's adventurer by heart). She cannot hear anything negative about LC's.
Well, first thing I suppose: acceleration is measured with a calendar and not with a stopwatch. Second, I reckon that the Vmax is around 80 km/hr or 50 miles/hr. But it's not about speed or performance: it's for pulling gear, a dog (in a bench) in the rear and that sort of stuff. Use it here on the dirt roads, the forest etc.
Your answers/experiences etc are very welcome, as always.
Awesome machines.
Not sure if you've seen the special on Top Gear where Richard Hammond has one of these for that 'adventure'. It sure looked well made, given the abuse he put it through.
I guess like all classics their value is now somewhat stellar.
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Thanks, I'll watch that!Originally Posted by sish101
Shhh don’t tell anyone...
These are better than a Land Rover...
A Landy will get you anywhere you need to go but you will have to fix it at some point (I love landys)
An LC will do the same but you won’t have to fix it.
Never owned one but I would like too at some point. They go for a small fortune in Africa. Highly desirable.
I would recommend the Land Rover alternative.
I am early in the journey, but I was amazed to be able to buy a 68 year old Land Rover (1953), in pretty much complete (albeit non-running) condition for less than 1/6th of the list price of that LC.
Mine was re-imported back from Australia, and has one piece of rust on the chassis, the size of a cigarette packet. The rest is in great nick and unrepaired.
That lack of upfront cost gives you plenty of room to restore and customise completely.
Remember, Landies are aluminium, so the body simply does not rust. Only the chassis.
And I also know someone who is bringing in several Aus imports (to the UK) in June, so they are around.
Series 1 80"s are all getting pretty pricey, but 86" are not.
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I have a Land Rover, the body panels are aluminium but literally all the structural /important parts are prone to rust and ongoing repairs. The old Toyotas look very cool though, not many in the UK that I’ve seen.
Edit - even the aluminium corrodes on a landy
I had an 1978 FJ40 when I lived in the US.
Built like a tank, the 4.2 straight 6 was great. Only issue was body panels rusted particularly on the rear panels along the weld seams. Beatrice was her name...and it was love.
Wold love one again....have a 90.
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A fella in a nearby village has one, looks mint and he's had it from new,
"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action."
'Populism, the last refuge of a Tory scoundrel'.
Agreed
The chassis, floor and fire wall of a land rover pre galvanised can be a disaster.
Ally also corrodes especially when next to steel
Once your landy has a galv chassis and decent bulkhead it will probably see you out (I mean that in general terms, not wishing to see any forum members off earlier than intended!)
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I've been to the middle of the white desert in the eastern Sahara in one of these. Awesome machine
It is said if you want to get to the middle of the desert, take a land rover. If you want to get back, take a LC. Not sure how true but I've done a few trips in a LC in the desert and they're solid as.
There's one of these locally in daily use and I think it looks terrific, it really stands out.
Might be worth a peruse of the international Japanese car import/export traders (e.g., https://www.tc-v.com/used_car/toyota/land%20cruiser/ I am sure there are many others) to get a market view. The Japanese car auctions are legendary with 100s of thousands of cars traded every week, even rarities pop up surprisingly often.
TT
Drove around Namibia in one. Unstoppable. Great for the places with poor roads but comfort not much. Overkill in most of the EU I’d say.
A friend in the US who owns more than one Toyota (and Lexus) contacted a US based Land Cruiser guru and together they came up with a list of things I should look at and ask.
I already know that the car on the pics is an 'import': the 1984 car is imported in my country in 2016. Since it's left-handed, it's interesting to find out where it's from. The educated guess from the guru is South America. They were built there in a Toyota factory. E.g. Brazilian-built Land Cruisers had a Mercedes engine installed by the factory for a certain period! I didn't know that! (I think that Merc diesel engines from the late 70s, early 80s were bombproof).
I'm going to call the seller. Bank holiday overhere (the Friday after Ascencion Day is always a bank holiday here), so fair chance that the seller's showroom is closed.
Menno
If he has a showroom I would think there are chances he is open, to benefit from the crowds who are not at work and can shop around but I could be over optimistic
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Brilliant cars, I used to use one to catch bulls and camels in the Australian desert, it had a mechanical grab arm mounted on the front.
Yeah that happened on my old LR. Electrolytic/galvanic corrosion I believe it's called, looked like silvery white fluff from memory.
The Toyota looks charming but can't help thinking you'd be better off with one of those recent suzuki jeeps they released (and quickly pulled).
Last I heard they were planning on releasing a commercial version to get around EU laws.
Lovely - looks spot on and values will only go one way. TBH most of the good ones are already out of reach for most enthusiasts.
You can always join here and ask for some advice - lots of owners and a nice friendly forum; https://www.landcruiserclub.net/comm...ser_40_series/
Good point Fender..I loved the look of the latest Jimney..real mini G wagon style
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/suzuki/jimny-0
As an aside my camper (1995 Toyota Granvia ) is powered by a 3.0 td land cruiser engine...a lovely big powerful reliable lump..I have a real soft spot for all LCs
The Retropower boys have just taken one of these on for a fettel might be of interest to some.
Introduction: 19:40
More detail: 5:10
A couple of other videos from Jonathan Ward at TLC. Amazing attention to detail when they do restore classics for modern day use.
https://youtu.be/dTwEaxrsLG0
https://youtu.be/gcVgsTFFCKo
I called the seller, telling him that I had a ton of questions. I fired away and after a few LC-specific questions, he said: "Oh I see this note that the car is sold!" Makes you think...
Menno
Silly question but have you considered a Jeep (Willys or up to CJ5)?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
This is the solution to the problem.
Willys Jeep / Hotchkiss M201. The perfect summer car.
Unless they break down!
Have you researched the 80 ?
My BIL is a farmer in NE Scotland, he has owned virtually every 4wd you could think of - according to him the manual 80 he had was by far the best of them.
A mate from Dorset said basically the same thing, although his was an auto.
Having been a passenger in both, they were capable of keeping up with modern traffic - I'm not sure the 40 would be able to do so.
I couldn't remember it was you who had one. I am sure I'll have one, someday. I would accommodate a more recent one (hence the CJ5 suggestion) to make things slightly less challenging in terms of reliability/maintenance.This is the solution to the problem.
Willys Jeep / Hotchkiss M201. The perfect summer car.
Unless they break down!
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I had an Escort 2 door same year as the white one in the first video. Don't remember it sounding quite like that though..........
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
I haven't looked into the 80 (yet - thanks for the heads up). I'm sure that the 40-series can only do 80km/hr or so. But then, the only spots where I'll use it, are here on my own land, on the back roads and the forest paths. Like a friend said: 'You'll be a rock star wearing klompen (wooden shoes), driving a 40, with a Rottweiler in the back!" I'm sure that my moments of rock star fame also work driving an 80!
About the Willy's: these are more common than 40s around this part of the country. Lots of owners have a Nekaf. The (domestically built) version, built by Kaiser for the Dutch army. However, I was in the Army for nearly two years. And I've done quite some miles in a Nekaf before the LandRover took over. The Nekaf was abused by everybody with a valid military drivers license.
Menno
Sorry off topic but.......Brilliant photo, and great idea for a separate thread “TZers and their bygone Motors”I had an 1978 FJ40 when I lived in the US.
Built like a tank, the 4.2 straight 6 was great. Only issue was body panels rusted particularly on the rear panels along the weld seams. Beatrice was her name...and it was love.
Wold love one again....have a 90.
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Last edited by Cat7; 16th May 2021 at 09:57.
Indeed a good start for a new thread!
So who bought it??
Not me, but in all honesty, it's no longer on the seller's For Sale list. I just checked. So it must have been bought by someone.
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