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    Panerai advice sought, please.

    Good morning,

    I have my eye on 2 watches to add to my daily wearer as I'd like to rotate. I am quite picky about watches and I read stuff on here with fascination; the knowledge is exceptional. So, I have a liking for blue on a watch and a couple of Panerais have caught my eye. There is a PAM 959 with a lovely grey dial and then an online only Azzurro.

    Does anyone have a view on these watches or any knowledge about Panerai in general? I have a gold Sub blue dial as a daily and I recall getting encouragement on here when I took the plunge on that 4 years ago. Glad I did, it is next level.

    Michael.

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    The 959 is lovely and is really different and would be a real change from the Rolex. The Azzurro less so but still a nice watch. Spec wise not much difference but a big difference in list price.

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    Arenít they the same price? Although better chance get a discount on the 959 as itís not online only.
    Basically the same except different colour dial and bezel so comes down to which you prefer
    the look of.

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    Thanks. Same price, yes, seemingly just different dials. I'm leaning towards the 959.

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    Hi Michael. Some nice options, and as said they're basically the same watch, so just depends upon you're preference.

    If resale was a consideration I would suggest that the Azzuro is more conventional in looks so might be an easier sell.

    Subject to your timeframe there is an evolution due in the summer, a 42mm diver on a bracelet. I can introduce you to someone at the London Panerai boutique who might be better placed to tell you more.

    Also, as a rotation with your Rolex I wonder if a non-diver is a consideration. This will be available soon and you can easily switch from bracelet to strap.

    https://www.panerai.com/gb/en/collec...or-chrono.html

    https://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch...ee-references/


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    Wow, thanks for that. I do like the Submersible range more though. Very helpful, thank you all.

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    As others have said, personal preference on colour scheme. Although not a Submersible, have you considered the PAM1085 Luminor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjrennie View Post
    Good morning,

    I have my eye on 2 watches to add to my daily wearer as I'd like to rotate. I am quite picky about watches and I read stuff on here with fascination; the knowledge is exceptional. So, I have a liking for blue on a watch and a couple of Panerais have caught my eye. There is a PAM 959 with a lovely grey dial and then an online only Azzurro.

    Does anyone have a view on these watches or any knowledge about Panerai in general? I have a gold Sub blue dial as a daily and I recall getting encouragement on here when I took the plunge on that 4 years ago. Glad I did, it is next level.

    Michael.
    In terms of 'knowledge about Panerai in general' I started a similar thread a little while back which has a few opinions both for and against the brand:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...not-to-buy-one

    As for the two watches you've mentioned I by far prefer the overall look of the Azzurro over the 959. That grey looks a bit washed out to my eye at least, whereas the Azzurro seems to tie in a bit better with the blue bezel/dial wording and then the dark face with a dark strap.

    Good luck with whatever you end up buying though, I've enjoyed my first foray into the brand and have been wearing mine every day since it arrived

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli View Post
    As others have said, personal preference on colour scheme. Although not a Submersible, have you considered the PAM1085 Luminor?
    I much prefer the Submersible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geordie View Post
    In terms of 'knowledge about Panerai in general' I started a similar thread a little while back which has a few opinions both for and against the brand:

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...not-to-buy-one

    As for the two watches you've mentioned I by far prefer the overall look of the Azzurro over the 959. That grey looks a bit washed out to my eye at least, whereas the Azzurro seems to tie in a bit better with the blue bezel/dial wording and then the dark face with a dark strap.

    Good luck with whatever you end up buying though, I've enjoyed my first foray into the brand and have been wearing mine every day since it arrived
    My wife said the same about the washed out dial. Hmmmmm.

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    Have you seen Scooby's on SC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjrennie View Post
    I much prefer the Submersible.

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    My wife said the same about the washed out dial. Hmmmmm.
    Buy the 1389 on sc ,you canít go wrong


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    I saw that but I am after a blue bezel version.

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    I've probably pulled out of the 959 or Azzurro. Neither seems to be available with even a modest discount and I can't see them representing £8,500 as they are. Very attractive but I think I could do better for my money. I think buying what you like is always the way to go, but I can't justify 8.5 for either. There is an unworn 2019 959 with a company called Chase Hattan and at their 7k, I'm interested. They didn't respond to an email so that's that.

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    Try New Cavendish Jewellers. They're an authorised Panerai boutique, bricks and mortar store in London, but also trade online. Speak to the owner, Jitesh and tell him Fas mentioned the place to you. If there's any discount to be had, he'll be able to provide.

    https://www.newcavendishjewellers.com/

    I bought my 1313 from there in December and cannot recommend him or his team enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fas View Post
    Try New Cavendish Jewellers. They're an authorised Panerai boutique, bricks and mortar store in London, but also trade online. Speak to the owner, Jitesh and tell him Fas mentioned the place to you. If there's any discount to be had, he'll be able to provide.

    https://www.newcavendishjewellers.com/

    I bought my 1313 from there in December and cannot recommend him or his team enough
    Thanks for that, might give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fas View Post
    Try New Cavendish Jewellers. They're an authorised Panerai boutique, bricks and mortar store in London, but also trade online. Speak to the owner, Jitesh and tell him Fas mentioned the place to you. If there's any discount to be had, he'll be able to provide.

    https://www.newcavendishjewellers.com/

    I bought my 1313 from there in December and cannot recommend him or his team enough
    They're an AD for various brands, including Panerai, but they're not an OP boutique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fas View Post
    Try New Cavendish Jewellers. They're an authorised Panerai boutique, bricks and mortar store in London, but also trade online. Speak to the owner, Jitesh and tell him Fas mentioned the place to you. If there's any discount to be had, he'll be able to provide.

    https://www.newcavendishjewellers.com/

    I bought my 1313 from there in December and cannot recommend him or his team enough
    I spoke with Jitesh and things are moving. He says you are a gent...I agree. Thanks again, I owe you a pint.

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    Got my 1314 from them


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    +1 to them- Have spoken to Jitesh and 100% my next watch purchase will be coming from them.

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    Acquiring any production Pam seems relatively easy these days. Asked about a 359 from a few places and told now way, asked Panerai themselves, and a phone call later they had 2 if I wanted one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    They're an AD for various brands, including Panerai, but they're not an OP boutique.
    The tagline on the website says "Haute Horology"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjrennie View Post
    I spoke with Jitesh and things are moving. He says you are a gent...I agree. Thanks again, I owe you a pint.
    I just got back from NCJ as I had to pick up a new strap for the PAM. He mentioned you had called. Good luck and look forward to whatever you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fas View Post
    I just got back from NCJ as I had to pick up a new strap for the PAM. He mentioned you had called. Good luck and look forward to whatever you choose.
    Thanks. I'll update if I plunge for a Panerai.

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